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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:52 PM
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Senator Leahy wants to defund the war
Tonight, listening to Senator Leahy on VPR, I heard him say that the way to end the war, just like Vietnam, is to defund it. He is strongly opposed to further funding, and is, of course, going to vote against the supplementary. Bernie and Peter Welch said essentially the same thing.

If you have a minute, contact these guys and thank them. Particularly Leahy, who actually stated that the only way to end it, is to defund it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:54 PM
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1. just do it
I don't want to hear anything else.

Enough.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:55 PM
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2. That's right. Stop talking about it, and do it.
Just end it. Enough is enough.

It was all based on lies anyway. The moment we found out we'd been had by this administration in the lead up to war, the troops should have been pulled out.

This is bullshit.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:00 PM
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7. Ignorance is so predictable
I suggest you fucking educate yourself. Read Senator Leahy's speech prior to the vote in which he specifically warns that this is a Gulf of Tonkin moment.

He's been staunchly against the war to begin with. And he's actually speaking out and saying what we supposedly want out reps to be saying.

Leahy talks the talk and walks the walk. He voted to defund Vietnam. He voted against Gulf war I and the Iraq war, and he's been a staunch anti-war voice.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:18 PM
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9. Are you really this immature?
Your comments are completely uncalled for and unnecessary.

Grow the hell up!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:21 PM
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10. LOL. It's all the lens we view things through, isn't it?
Because through my lens, your comments were not only ignorant but immature. And of course, you couldn't address the points I made. Didn't expect that you could.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:01 PM
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22. I didn't respond to your comments because you have no respect for others.
Read your first sentence over again. Is this your way of carrying on a discussion with someone, or do you just get off on baiting and attacking others with the intent of disrupting the board?

I think the answer is obvious.

Starting off by attacking someone you don't know and insulting them shows your immaturity and lack of respect for others. It is also against DU rules to treat other members this way.

Grow up. :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:56 PM
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4. I hate to break this to you
but he's one person. He can't do it alone. All he can do is speak out and vote against it. Same with Bernie. Who are your Senators? Are they dems?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:22 PM
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11. "just do it"
I sure hope Peer Pressurer talks Dude into stopping the war by any means necessary.

Just Do It

1. blah, blah, blah
2. Said by someone who 'peer pressures' others.

Peer Pressurer: "Have a hit man."
Dude: "No Thanks."
Peer Pressurer: "Just do it."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=just+do+it
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:26 PM
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13. He's been doing it.
As I said, he can't do it alone. That should be about as obvious as it gets, so save your criticism for those who are going along with the criminal enterprise, not those who are fighting it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:27 PM
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15. it was a simple comment
you're spinning your wheels creating a strawman argument over a rhetorical comment

relax

cheers
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djjimz Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:44 PM
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18. More than enough!
Thanks, man.

Hi Kitten
:hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:46 PM
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19. *
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:55 PM
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3. Love Leahy.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:57 PM
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5. Defunding isn't going to happen--not this year.
I have two antiwar Senators who kind of ride the fence on Iraq votes, and they will NEVER defund.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:58 PM
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6. Done.
Roboform is so helpful with those contact forms they have. To my senators:

"Leahy wants to defund the Iraq war? GO FOR IT!!!

(And spend a minute or two thinking about defunding the idiocy in Afghanistan, as well.)"
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ludwigb Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:06 PM
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8. Leahy for President?
Seriously, right on. This war is criminal. This war is corrupt. It doesn't do anyone any good. Not another dime. No more excuses. No more bullshit.

I hope the presidential candidates are listening. Kucinich, as usual, was the first turn refuse to vote for a supplemental....

This war is beyond redemption. The corruption, waste, and loss are unforgivable. Declare victory, and get the fuck out. We can allocate funding for the Iraqi factions we deem worthy of support in a SEPERATE bill. Similarly, whatever funding needed to get our people out safely and fund the safe escape of refugees can be funded seperately--independent of this president's corrupt claws.

There is simply no excuse for allocating another dime for this evil enterprise.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:22 PM
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12. Great. Any word on whether Clobama have a position yet on this issue? nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:26 PM
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14. thank you for bringing us a hint of FreeperLand with "Clobama"
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:36 PM
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16. We probably won't know that until the vote is halfway over.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:39 PM
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17. I disagreed with Biden's last vote on this but admired his courage in stating his view early, openly
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 10:39 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
Biden is a straight shooter. He knew that would hurt his candidacy. He could have quietly voted at the last second but he stated his position early and openly on television. :applause: for Biden's honesty.
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djjimz Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:49 PM
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20. I agree
Biden is a good man.
They accuse him of talking too much sometimes, but I don't see it.
He says what's on his mind. And that's better than the lying shits we have in there now!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:28 PM
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24. Did Washington really say that?
I have never heard that before :)
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djjimz Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:42 AM
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25. Yeah,
I believe it was after one of the debates that 'Tweety' or 'Scarface Joe' attacked him on that. It was a friendly attack, but it was obvious, that is what they were trying to imply.
So, I guess we should just consider the source.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:26 PM
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23. He'll be holding hearings on Iraq when they get back in session.
It will be interesting to see what comes out of that.

About his vote - I was so mad, but at the same time appreciated how
he came out 2 days in advance to say how he would vote.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:50 PM
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21. Good for him
I wish him luck...
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:01 AM
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26. Great! Who's with him?
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