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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:45 AM
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Faith: I came into this world a Jewish person.
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:17 AM by liberaldemocrat7
I believe in God but I do not adhere to the Jewish faith strictly. I believe that Moses existed and did deliver my people out of Egypt many centuries ago. I believe in the cultural aspects of my religion although I might not practice them. I do not go to a synagogue much at all presently. I don't even talk about religion much on Democratic Underground.

I do talk about helping the less fortunate and acting kind to people and respecting people worthy of respect. I do not wish negative results on people whose political views I oppose except in the political area. I want Republicans to fail, given their history and unwillingness to help people they do not know, other than their family and friends.

I do talk about how we can raise the minimum wage further than the tightwad level it will assume in 2 years, replace a faulty prescription drug benefit with something much better, change the electoral system to paper ballots, how to end the war in Iraq, etc.

I don't talk about God very much either. For me, I see that God exists but others do not believe in God. I do not turn DU into a synagogue. I do not expound my religious or nonreligious beliefs here.

DU does not appear a church or a synagogue.


I beleive that Christianity and Mohammedanism have gotten hijacked by radicals who oppose personal freedom and in the case of right wing Christ insanity they enable businesses to ride roughshod over the public and I call them capitalist christians. The radical Mohammedans appear to take their economic beliefs too far to the left as they abhor even paying interest on loans.

I have watched the Republiklan party for over 40 years.

They have boasted they acted stronger on crime, stronger on defense, stronger on moral values and frankly each claim appears a lot of bunk, and they have gotten caught many times not to appear stronger on any of these issues.


I oppose religious people who have to shout their faith from the rooftops, and also to pander to religious people in order to get their votes then to act when they get into office to hurt the poor, the less fortunate and the middle class, the unemployed, and the disabled. This consitutes the misuse of religion.


I do not want religious people to tell me what to do in my personal life. I have a girlfriend and when we eventually live together I don't want a society that goes back to the 1950's which would shun people as myself who would not get married but would live with my girlfriend. If you don't believe that could happen, I have read about a town in the midwest that banned unmarried people from living together.


As for people on DU believing in Christ, Mohammed, Buddha, Gautama, Vishnu very good, I celebrate your religion and your God. I might not believe in your religion or the way you approach God but I respect that.

What I don't want though comes from someone saying your religion appears the only way or if you want our laws created or changed because Vishnu, Mohammed, or Christ says so.


As a Jewish person, I do not believe my people appear the chosen people. I do believe in Israel as the land promised to Jewish people who got enslaved by the Egypatian Pharoahs and got freed and wandered for decades.

Oh and those fundamentalists who support Israel, I find them only interested in the prophecy where Christians will evntually take over Israel. I do not support them. I also did not support the Likud government in Israel and I don't have a position yet about the Kadima led government of Israel. I support the Israeli Labor party.

Yes, talk about religion but don't talk too much about religion. I tend not to talk about God very much and not to talk about religion.


Until the fake Christian Republicans and the Radical Mohammedans stop hijacking the respective religions they put a black mark on faith.

I do not hate faith or people of faith but I abhor using of religion to destroy the social order, to invade personal freedom and to enable radical capitalism when we should have responsible capitalism.









I also believe that Moses and Gandhi, and King and Mandela brought tyrants to their knees. How did they do this?

Not necessarily with protest in the streets but rather the noncooperation with these tyrants and those who enables them.


If Bishop Desmond Tutu, a friend of Nelson Mandela could tell the world to boycott South African coal and other South African products in part to bring down the National party during the 1990's

can we do no less than ask people now to stop buying Republican products from GE, Exxon/Mobil, Dell Computers, Wendy's, Outback Steakhouse, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Rite Aid Pharmacies, etc. and make demands of them?


Let my people go, Republicans!


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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:58 AM
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1. I'm with you. k & r
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:55 AM
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2. Our Founding Fathers Didn't Talk About God Very Much Either...
Our founding fathers didn't even mention the word God in our Constitution. Something all the fundamentalist Christians overlook when they claim our country was founded as a Christian nation although some of the more intelligent ones will point to the date and the words "year of our Lord" as an indication of intent. Of course the date is the only thing they believe in with regard to the Constitution. The Constitution itself means absolutely nothing to them. They instead wave their Bibles in the air.

As for boycotting the Republicans, better to take back the Congress completely and then ban Republicans from ever holding public office again. Only takes an amendment to the Constitution.

If we are lucky enough to have crimes against humanity tried at Nuremberg a second time, which many would like to see, most likely most of the Republicans who would rally the masses to vote against such an amendment will be rotting in a prison for their war crimes and their followers cowering in corners as a result of their shameful support of a party that only the Nazi Party can be compared to in terms of absolute evil. The German people made the mistake of not banning the Nazi Party. The American people should not make the same mistake. Such trials should be held at Nuremberg. To remind everyone of what happens when you forget.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:03 PM
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3. Couple of things I have to point out
It's called "Islam", not "Mohammedanism". Muslims do not worship Mohammed, but God. The same God that Jews and Christians worshp. Mohammed is considered by them a prophet -- the most important prophet for sure, but a prophet. Think Elijah.

"Yes, talk about religion but don't talk too much about religion. I tend not to talk about God very much and not to talk about religion.


Until the fake Christian Republicans and the Radical Mohammedans stop hijacking the respective religions they put a black mark on faith."

And because you don't like to talk about your religion (or anyone elses) much, the rest of the world ought to fall in line and refrain as well? Think about what you're saying there.

You're comfortable it seems with the beliefs and the extent of belief that you have chosen for yourself. While I completely agree with you that there are dangerous fundamentalists to be found in every religion (not just Christianity and Islam, BTW - -there are some pretty out there folks to be found in Judaism, among Hindus, and even Buddhists), broad strokes almost always erase your point. Not everyone will agree with either your beliefs or your desire not to have people talk about their beliefs. The flip side of the freedom you enjoy is offering that same freedom to others. And of course, their freedom stops at your nose, as well.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:19 PM
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4. I said you can talk about religion, just don't talk too much about religion.
That varies for me. As soon as I see too much religion in the discussion I will freely leave the conversation and go elsewhere. You can continue to talk about religion as much as you want.

As for religious Jewish Fanatics, I don't see as many reported on as we see right wing fake christians here and radical muslims in the middle east.

Meir Kahane has died, and no I completely did not support him.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 02:49 PM
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6. Did you happen to see any of Christiane Amanpour's
God's Warriors a couple of weeks ago?

Yes, they exist. And they're every bit as ugly and destructive as their analogs in any other religion. If there are fewer, it's probably due to the fewer number of Jews in the world. Proportionately, they're well-represented, I'm afraid.

We hear a great deal about the Christian nuts because we live in a country that is predominantly Christian. Likewise, we hear about the Islamic nuts a great deal because it's in the news. And because it serves the needs of the Bush administration to make the entire Muslim world look like nuts and terrorists. (Except of course the blessed Saudi regime, which is actually full to the brim with nuts, but we've decided apparently that they're "our" nuts).

Absolutism isn't limited to any one religion. I fear it's a human condition, and can be expressed through religion, but I don't think that's where it starts.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:19 PM
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5. The reason why we are called the 'chosen people' is
we have one last chance to accept Jesus as our saviour before we die.

Religion can be pretty crazy at times if you ask me.



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 03:05 PM
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7. Yitzhak Rabin. We need more like
him.

"Man is not made of steel....He has a heart and soul....He cries and laughs....He loves and hurts....He changes....He is wounded and he cries out....He is flesh and blood...."

Ben David
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