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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:13 PM
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Howard Dean's candidacy is dead (according to this editor
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:16 PM by candy331
(That A California newspaper editor could know and print this conclusively at 2:00 am PST before the polls even open in Wisconsin is a death blow to what's left of democracy in this country. Seems like all responsible real journalism has left and only Jayson Blair's and tabloid thrillers are left. Does he have the results of the November election waiting on the back burner just waiting to be put in print? No wonder Bush could say on MTP that he was not going to loose, seems it may be rapped up in the bag already. I have to say we live in perilous times indeed. I felt compelled to write to the editor to voice my thoughts on the media's hijacking of democracy.

Tuesday February 17, 2004

Howard Dean’s candidacy is dead

By RUSS FAGALY


Howard Dean's political career died today during an uninspiring showing in the Wisconsin democratic primary. His political career was 13 years old.


Howard Dean's political career began in 1991 in Vermont. After serving as lieutenant governor, Dean was elevated to the governorship upon the death of then-Governor Richard Sneling. Dean remained governor for a decade, taking the state from the brink of fiscal insolvency to record surpluses.

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www.californiaaggie.com/article





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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:15 PM
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1. We should FLOOD that insolvent publication with angry letters - n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:17 PM
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2. Poor Russ. A Student Columinst for a tiny student paper in Cal, who looks
to be a Dean supporter is being accussed today of being part of a media plot to undermine Dean's run for the presidency. It's a big day for Russ. But he'd probably like to be noticed for other reasons.


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Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:24 PM
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4. whereever I go in DU
I see apologists who just won't accept the truth about the media.

Maybe when it bites THEIR boy on the ass they'll change their tune.
http://www.mediatenor.com/US-Election_040209_monthly.pdf
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:26 PM
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5. If a student columnist from a student newspaper in California is the ...
...evidence of a media conspiracy, we're doing a disservice to all the REAL examples of media conspiracy.

This is crying wolf.

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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:38 PM
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9. If This Guy's A Dean Supporter...
...he gets an "F" for research. Had he actually done some, he'd at least have known that Dean's political career didn't begin in 1991, when he was elevated to governor. Dean's political career actually began in 1981, when he ran for, and later won, a seat in the Vermont House of Representatives. That's 23 years, not 13.

And who says this is the end of Dean's career? Good Lord, the hyperbole when it comes to Dean is sickening, sometimes. Perhaps this Fagaly kid is too young to remember that Richard Nixon's political career was declared D.O.A. in 1964, having lost a Presidential and California gubernatorial election. Nixon was later elected President twice. But if you don't remember that far back, Russ, perhaps you may want to consider LOOKING IT THE FUCK UP next time? Isn't that what students do?

Isn't that what REAL journalists do?

Hell, even COMEDIANS (which is apparently what Fagaly was trying to be) have to do a little research every ONCE in a while. The best jokes do have a little truth in 'em, y'know...

:eyes:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:51 PM
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13. It looks like he's a student columnist. He probaly has a full course load
and a part time job in addition to his writing duties.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:30 PM
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18. So that makes him too busy to know Nixon lost to Kennedy in '60?
I'm all of those things you mentioned, and yet I still somehow found room in my brain to squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze in the minute fact that Nixon lost in '60 to JFK before winning in '68.

I'm amazing!

Later.

RJS
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NoMoreRedInk Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:20 PM
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3. His political career is not over, but the writer is correct...
about his presidential candidacy. It's over. He may hang on to let us enjoy a long and drawn out death rattle, but you can stick a fork in Dean 04.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:26 PM
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6. This has already been posted today,
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:31 PM
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7. between the emotion and the response
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:33 PM by ZombyWoof
The Hollow Men

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II

Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer --

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III

This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V

Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow

For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow

Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.


T.S. Eliot
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:40 PM
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10. It is useless to try to get people to see the point
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:41 PM by candy331
I suppose somewhere down the road when the nation is another third world nation we can look back and wonder what happened, which is looming on the horizon and may accelerate come November..
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:49 PM
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19. Wow! Putrid Poetry too.
I love DU...
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:33 PM
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8. Two words - Dewey and Truman. The media just never learns. nt
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:03 PM
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14. Good One
I was wondering if anyone remembered that.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:40 PM
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11. Why bother with formalities?
You know, like waiting for people to vote.

The script has already been written. Stick to it.
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blazinjason Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:48 PM
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12. Dean could become a great party leader. He knows time's up.
Give him his props, then he should go and inspire people to vote for Kerry.

But I applaud his efforts. His participation in this election has helped Democrats.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:05 PM
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15. That's a good one
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 06:06 PM by GodHelpUsAll2
Howard Dean should go and inspire people to vote for Kerry. That implies Kerry needs help inspiring people! I was wondering when that would become obvious.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:14 PM
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16. Someone has to do it.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:23 PM
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17. Yes.....yes they do
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