candy331
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:13 PM
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Howard Dean's candidacy is dead (according to this editor |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:16 PM by candy331
(That A California newspaper editor could know and print this conclusively at 2:00 am PST before the polls even open in Wisconsin is a death blow to what's left of democracy in this country. Seems like all responsible real journalism has left and only Jayson Blair's and tabloid thrillers are left. Does he have the results of the November election waiting on the back burner just waiting to be put in print? No wonder Bush could say on MTP that he was not going to loose, seems it may be rapped up in the bag already. I have to say we live in perilous times indeed. I felt compelled to write to the editor to voice my thoughts on the media's hijacking of democracy.
Tuesday February 17, 2004
Howard Dean’s candidacy is dead
By RUSS FAGALY
Howard Dean's political career died today during an uninspiring showing in the Wisconsin democratic primary. His political career was 13 years old.
Howard Dean's political career began in 1991 in Vermont. After serving as lieutenant governor, Dean was elevated to the governorship upon the death of then-Governor Richard Sneling. Dean remained governor for a decade, taking the state from the brink of fiscal insolvency to record surpluses.
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www.californiaaggie.com/article
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:15 PM
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1. We should FLOOD that insolvent publication with angry letters - n/t |
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:17 PM
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2. Poor Russ. A Student Columinst for a tiny student paper in Cal, who looks |
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to be a Dean supporter is being accussed today of being part of a media plot to undermine Dean's run for the presidency. It's a big day for Russ. But he'd probably like to be noticed for other reasons.
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:24 PM
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I see apologists who just won't accept the truth about the media. Maybe when it bites THEIR boy on the ass they'll change their tune. http://www.mediatenor.com/US-Election_040209_monthly.pdf
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:26 PM
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5. If a student columnist from a student newspaper in California is the ... |
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...evidence of a media conspiracy, we're doing a disservice to all the REAL examples of media conspiracy.
This is crying wolf.
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:38 PM
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9. If This Guy's A Dean Supporter... |
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...he gets an "F" for research. Had he actually done some, he'd at least have known that Dean's political career didn't begin in 1991, when he was elevated to governor. Dean's political career actually began in 1981, when he ran for, and later won, a seat in the Vermont House of Representatives. That's 23 years, not 13.
And who says this is the end of Dean's career? Good Lord, the hyperbole when it comes to Dean is sickening, sometimes. Perhaps this Fagaly kid is too young to remember that Richard Nixon's political career was declared D.O.A. in 1964, having lost a Presidential and California gubernatorial election. Nixon was later elected President twice. But if you don't remember that far back, Russ, perhaps you may want to consider LOOKING IT THE FUCK UP next time? Isn't that what students do?
Isn't that what REAL journalists do?
Hell, even COMEDIANS (which is apparently what Fagaly was trying to be) have to do a little research every ONCE in a while. The best jokes do have a little truth in 'em, y'know...
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:51 PM
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13. It looks like he's a student columnist. He probaly has a full course load |
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and a part time job in addition to his writing duties.
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Tue Feb-17-04 06:30 PM
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18. So that makes him too busy to know Nixon lost to Kennedy in '60? |
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I'm all of those things you mentioned, and yet I still somehow found room in my brain to squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze in the minute fact that Nixon lost in '60 to JFK before winning in '68.
I'm amazing!
Later.
RJS
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:20 PM
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3. His political career is not over, but the writer is correct... |
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about his presidential candidacy. It's over. He may hang on to let us enjoy a long and drawn out death rattle, but you can stick a fork in Dean 04.
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:26 PM
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6. This has already been posted today, |
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:31 PM
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7. between the emotion and the response |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:33 PM by ZombyWoof
The Hollow Men
We are the hollow men We are the stuffed men Leaning together Headpiece filled with straw. Alas! Our dried voices, when We whisper together Are quiet and meaningless As wind in dry grass Or rats' feet over broken glass In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour, Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
Those who have crossed With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost Violent souls, but only As the hollow men The stuffed men.
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Eyes I dare not meet in dreams In death's dream kingdom These do not appear: There, the eyes are Sunlight on a broken column There, is a tree swinging And voices are In the wind's singing More distant and more solemn Than a fading star.
Let me be no nearer In death's dream kingdom Let me also wear Such deliberate disguises Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves In a field Behaving as the wind behaves No nearer --
Not that final meeting In the twilight kingdom
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This is the dead land This is cactus land Here the stone images Are raised, here they receive The supplication of a dead man's hand Under the twinkle of a fading star.
Is it like this In death's other kingdom Waking alone At the hour when we are Trembling with tenderness Lips that would kiss Form prayers to broken stone.
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The eyes are not here There are no eyes here In this valley of dying stars In this hollow valley This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms
In this last of meeting places We grope together And avoid speech Gathered on this beach of the tumid river
Sightless, unless The eyes reappear As the perpetual star Multifoliate rose Of death's twilight kingdom The hope only Of empty men.
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Here we go round the prickly pear Prickly pear prickly pear Here we go round the prickly pear At five o'clock in the morning.
Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom
Between the conception And the creation Between the emotion And the response Falls the Shadow
Life is very long
Between the desire And the spasm Between the potency And the existence Between the essence And the descent Falls the Shadow For Thine is the Kingdom
For Thine is Life is For Thine is the
This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.
T.S. Eliot
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:40 PM
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10. It is useless to try to get people to see the point |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 05:41 PM by candy331
I suppose somewhere down the road when the nation is another third world nation we can look back and wonder what happened, which is looming on the horizon and may accelerate come November..
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Tue Feb-17-04 06:49 PM
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19. Wow! Putrid Poetry too. |
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:33 PM
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8. Two words - Dewey and Truman. The media just never learns. nt |
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Tue Feb-17-04 06:03 PM
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I was wondering if anyone remembered that.
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:40 PM
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11. Why bother with formalities? |
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You know, like waiting for people to vote.
The script has already been written. Stick to it.
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:48 PM
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12. Dean could become a great party leader. He knows time's up. |
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Give him his props, then he should go and inspire people to vote for Kerry.
But I applaud his efforts. His participation in this election has helped Democrats.
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Tue Feb-17-04 06:05 PM
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 06:06 PM by GodHelpUsAll2
Howard Dean should go and inspire people to vote for Kerry. That implies Kerry needs help inspiring people! I was wondering when that would become obvious.
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Tue Feb-17-04 06:14 PM
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16. Someone has to do it. |
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