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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:18 PM
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Hillary's Obama-Lite campaign continues with "Let's do Lunch" appeal
Hmmmmmmm, where have we seen this before:

"Let's do lunch. Let's talk, you and me -- about whatever you'd like. Our hopes. Our goals. Our work. The weather. Maybe even politics.

I think it would be fun to have you over for lunch, at my table, in my home in Washington. You and I both know that we need a serious change of direction in this country. So let's sit down for a meal and talk about exactly the best way to make that change a reality.

Of course, that change can't happen if we don't win. So I'm asking you today to demonstrate your commitment to real change by supporting my campaign with a contribution. We're going to choose one supporter to come to my house in DC, along with a guest, to share lunch and talk. And if you contribute between now and midnight Friday, September 7, it could be you."

https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/letsdolunch.html?sc=2207

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:21 PM
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1. Dayum...
Does she have a single original thought?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM
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11. No she does not. If she wasn't a woman or married to Bill she would have no support at all.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM by Dawgs
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:36 PM
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13. I'd love to see the scientific polling data on that. Do you have a link?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:12 PM
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34. She's coping Obama shamelessly. Very sad indeed.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:22 PM
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2. OK, I'll bite. Where have we seen this before?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM
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3. Obama invented campaigning...didn't you know?..
:-)

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM
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4. Dinner with Barack for four small donors
It's a two-month old idea and he has done it twice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-GN7_Zo4mY
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:27 PM
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5. actually, it's a decades-old idea done pretty often.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:28 PM
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6. Guess your girl just needed to have her memory jogged then
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:31 PM
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7. She's not claiming she "invented" it though to be fair neither is Obama.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 02:33 PM by rinsd
The "innovation" to this practice on the Obama campaign's part would seem to be the youtube video of the event.

I can't discern from the details posted whether that will also happen with Hillary.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:32 PM
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9. she's claiming she invented it?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:33 PM
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10. Whoops. missed a negative there.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM
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12. ...but apparently Obama supporters "here and there" think he invented it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:37 PM
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14. What's that line about imitation?
Not sure it works in politics, though.

We can also infer from this that Obama has helped her gain a newfound appreciation for the small donor. These numbers will do that to you:

-Of Obama's 258,000 donors in the first six months, 213,000 gave contributions of $200 or less.
-110,000 donors gave on the Internet, amounting to $17 million.
-70 percent of Senator Clinton's money comes from donors that already gave the maximum allowed by law and thus can't give again.
-Among Senator Clinton's donations, only $19 million come from donors that can give again, compared to $34 million of Obama's donors that can give again.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:47 PM
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19. Politics is like Hollywood, few ideas are original. Kind of like small donations via internet.
;-)

A few things about the fundraising numbers

a) Obama need to outspend Hillary just to achieve her name recognition. He has already spent $3M more (less their respective debts) than her according to opensecrets.

b) Hillary started with a $10M head start.

c) While its nice to be able to hit folks a 2nd time around, the donor pool is not finite. Neither Obama nor Hillary are limited by their current numbers.

Obama has done very well with fundraising which puts him in a position of contention.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:56 PM
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32. unless you've just gotten to hollywood, then one thinks he is an original act
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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:27 PM
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29. The Dem candidates back in 03' did this to Dean
Remember when Dean came out the box to become the front-runner surprising the DC-anointed candidates? They got bamboozled and didn't have a clue on how to deal with him, the message, the crowds he attracted or his grass-roots internet fund raising machine. So what did they do to shut him down? They all became 'Dean lite'. They spoke with added bass in their voices, ripped-off his talking points by using them in their stump speeches, copied the theme of his website (meet-ups, blogs, substituting his fund raising bat for a __________, etc..).

I'm now beginning to see Hillary imitating Obama. A couple of days ago when she was in Iowa, I heard her say something to the effect of 'she understands that voters in Iowa have to "kick the tires"'. That's a quote from Obama. Her post-labor day campaign will now resolve around "change".

Most of them do it knowing that most people are not paying close attention to catch it. Fortunately when they try to mimic Obama, he has such a way with words that he makes the rest of them look like a cheap imitations.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:31 PM
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8. Hey! Clinton ran for office BEFORE Obama did. Does Obama have an original thought at all???
:rofl:

Next, you'll be saying Obamanites invented door-to-door canvassing and phone banking. No, wait, the Deaniacs did that. :sarcasm:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:39 PM
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16. Mistake: Her first race was 2000; his was 1996
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:45 PM
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18. So she inspired his Senate run.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:50 PM
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20. I'm proud she is following Obama's lead so often...Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery -
"Mr. Obama went first — no. Then, within minutes, Mrs. Clinton strode into the chamber and voted the same." - - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/the-clinton-obama-two-step/
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:55 PM
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21. ...or like this, you mean?
Clinton on Sunday accused the administration of putting "cronyism above competence," while Obama on Monday called the administration's record "triumph of...cronyism over competence."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/09/04/post_55.html
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:00 PM
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22. Touche...
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 03:04 PM by jefferson_dem
That Hill sure is sneaky. Looks like she even pilfered a copy of Obama's Monday statement...

:sarcasm:?

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:03 PM
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23. LOL! Without a sarcasm tag, I might expect your explanation to be real.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 03:09 PM by wyldwolf
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:38 PM
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15. She also stole Richardson's line that she's the candidate that represents both
experience and change. Ever since Richardson said at one of the debates that Obama represents change and Hillary has experience but he has both, SHE'S been claiming to have both.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:14 PM
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35. Yep. Why would the so-called frontrunned do this?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:41 PM
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17. I'd love to have lunch with her
So many questions I'd love to ask...

:hi:



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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:29 PM
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24. It is truly sad how small, petty, and desperate, Obama supporters have become
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:32 PM
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25. Sad? We're just glad to be of service
If Hillary is to be the nominee, she needs to steal every good creative idea she can get. Lord knows Team Clinton didn't come to the table with much in this department.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:02 PM
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26. Small, petty, and desperate?
Would an example of that be insulting tens of thousands of people you don't know, all because you happen to disagree with the online actions of a few?

THAT is what small, petty, and desperate looks like.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:24 PM
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28. Nah, It looks like this thread.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:21 PM
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27. Help me understand this
Obama calls her Bush-Lite, now she's Obama-Lite? Doesn't that make Obama Bush-lite?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:35 PM
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30. Nope. That makes her a ...
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 04:36 PM by jefferson_dem

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:26 PM
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37. ROFLOL!!!!! so perfect in explaing about Hillary's stand on issues.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:02 PM
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31. Hil reminds one of Bush with her "the Change We Need!" & "READY for Change! Ready to LEAD!" Banners
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 06:04 PM by flpoljunkie
Remember the "Reformer with Results" backdrops after McCain whipped Bush in New Hampshire.


Presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks at a luncheon at the New York State Fair in Syracuse, N.Y., Friday, Aug. 31, 2007. (AP Photo/Kevin Rivoli)


Former President Bill Clinton introduces his wife, democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-NY) at the Fall Kick-Off rally in Concord, New Hampshire on September 2, 2007. REUTERS/Greg M. Cooper (UNITED STATES)
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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:05 PM
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33. Oh Lawd... not the Bush backdrops
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 07:11 PM by ariesgem
"ready for change". :rofl:



What's next? Is she going to have signed loyalty pledges from pre-screened audiences that she buses in? :puke:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:27 PM
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38. both Hillary and Bill look soooooooo old here. wait. they are old.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 07:23 PM
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36. Since at least Oct 06, Hillary does what Obama does. No original thinking at all.
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