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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:39 AM
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NORTHCOM Plans 5 Day Martial Law Exercise (Oct.)

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4185


The United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) has just announced plans for an anti-terrorism exercise called Vigilant Shield 08. The exercise which is slated to run from October 15th to October 20th is described as a way to prepare, prevent and respond to any number of national crises. The exercise is simply a test case scenario for the implementation of martial law. Although the description of the exercise is disturbing, USNORTHCOM also announced that they are more prepared for a natural disaster and a terrorist attack after they used their response to Hurricane Katrina as a test laboratory. During Hurricane Katrina, authorities violated the constitutional rights of citizens by stealing people’s firearms and even relocating people against their will. These announcements are incredibly disturbing on a number of levels as the nature of Vigilant Shield 08 and the admission that Hurricane Katrina was used as a test laboratory shows that the government is actively preparing the military and government institutions for martial law.
-snip-
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don't you just love it

practicing martial law
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:41 AM
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1. Don't you just love announcements like this?
:scared:
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:58 PM
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69. Test case...
Wait till the Nazi shows it's real face in America.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:44 AM
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2. This can not be rec'd and kicked enough...
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 10:44 AM by saddlesore
This is disturbing...and that is putting it lightly...

National Level Exercise 108
will include the simulated detonation of three radiological dispersal
devices within the USNORTHCOM and U.S. Pacific Command areas of responsibility. These
exercise events and others are designed to test the full range of incident management response
procedures at the local, state, and federal levels.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:57 AM
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10. I wonder what they are up to
Saw something on the local news this morning about local paramedics doing drills on how to react to chemical and biological attacks.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:02 PM
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26. Plans to save citizens in this day and age are not
something that I am worried about - it is the plans for Martial Law. NSPD-51 paves the way to give the weed in office his wish of becoming a Dictator. Shrub issued NSPD-51 along with other directives that severely undermine the ability of the checks and balances put in place. Since, I do not trust Shrub, I do not trust operations conducted by his administration, especially operations dealing with Martial Law.

Peace.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:30 PM
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80. What ever it is, they did it on 9-11 too(?)
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 08:32 PM by snappyturtle
Since this is a pdf document I'll type a couple of pertinent paragraphs. It is a 29 page article. I abstracted the following from pages 22 and 23. Article talks about Global Guardian and Vigilant Guardian www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/911mysteryplane.pdf

"WHY DID THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED ELECTRONICS WARFARE PLANE CIRCLE OVER THE WH ON 9/11?

PRACTICING ARMAGEDDON:

According to one report,on September 11,2001 three of the E-4Bs were participating in a live command-level exercise known as Global Guardian.(xxvii) The exercise is an annual event, and is staged to test the readiness of the US military's command and control procedures involved in waging thermonuclear war. The 2001 exercise started the week before September 11 under the directorship of Admiral Richard Mies, commander-in-chief of STRATCOM. The drill was reportedly in "full swing" at the time of the 9/11 attack. Numerous other military commands also participated, including NORAD. While few details about the 2001 exercise have been released, in previous years Global Guardian involved the US Space Command, the Air Combat Command, and the US Atlantic and Pacific Fleets. (xxviii)

The 9/11 Commission Report makes no mention of Global Guardian, but it does mention another 9/11 exercise, Vigilant Guardian, which also apparently involved NORAD.(xxix) It is now known that at least ten and as many as fifteen security drills were in progress of September 11, 2001,(xxx) and Global Guardian was probably the umbrella for a least several of these, including Vigilant Guardian. Even the name point to this. One of the E-4B's secondary roles is to provide a mobile command center for use by FEMA during national emergencies.(xxxi) This raises additional questions, because we know, a FEMA drill, named Tripod, was also in progress in New York City on September 11, 2001. Tripod involved hundreds of government employees and its purpose, according to NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani, was to defend against a hypothetical biochemical attack.(xxxii)
-snip-
pg.23 SCHEDULE CHANGE IN 2001

In previous years the military always staged Global Guardian in October or November and, according to various reports, the 2001 exercise was likewise originally scheduled for October.(xxxvi) However, for reasons that have never been disclosed, the Joint Chiefs changed the plan and conducted the 2001 exercise during the week of September 11. The following year the date reverted back. The 2002 Global Guardian came off in October, as in previous years, and this has continued to be the case. (xxxvii)"


All these same terms: guardian, vigilant as in Global Guardian, Vigilant Shield 08 and Vigilant Guardian, especially those in relation to Katrina and 9/11 gives me the shudders when thinking about Vigilant Shield 08. It's an interesting curiosity if nothing else. imho
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:51 PM
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87. Just what I was thinking. WTF are they planning to do to US now?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
90. I couldn't guess, but I am reminded that there were something like
5 different anti-terror, anti-hijacking drills going on on 9/11.

"You can't fault us for not responding! All our resources were tied up in the alerts!"
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:43 AM
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108. Well, Duh!
Why do you think all those drills were going on at that time? It was preplanned for the confusion.
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:07 PM
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48. Agreed!!
Kicked and Recommended!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:10 AM
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95. No shit! I just added rec #105.
And this-here kick...
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:45 AM
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3. Can you say, "Dry run for the 2008 elections"? n/t
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:47 AM
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4. they really are worried about the coming economic meltdown.....nt
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:47 AM
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5. NSPD-51 + Lots of drills + Administration Woes + Iran Sabre Rattling =
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 10:50 AM by saddlesore
Kicking Ass on Americans...

Brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Fear Monger.

Are we awake yet?
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:52 AM
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8. fully
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:48 AM
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6. Katrina was a test???? I knew it...they bombed the levies...
This just puts another piece in the puzzle...... call me wacko if you want...but what went down after/during Katrina...was a test....get ready folks..if you don't thinks its coming then you have not been paying attention....its all there...you have forsaken your liberties and freedoms
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:14 PM
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. NAGIN BACKED DOWN....This just is really too much....
I will be weeping for say EVER..... sometimes this world really stinks...or more specifically ..some very powerful people stink to hell and gone!!

who will stand up and tell it like it really is...no shit....just the Damn TRUTH!! Who??



:cry:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:25 PM
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54. Yep.
I assume you are in Canada...you lucky person! I have been holding my daughter's hand for an hour over the phone ....she's working 78 hours a weeks, college grad and not making it(lost a good job through a company cut back or whatever) and now all of this crap coming down. I've never seen anything like this. At least in 1929 and through the depression years they weren't dealing with a wacko with his hand on the button and a military that would turn on its people....well, maybe I should re-think that but I think it's worse now. :hide:
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:30 PM
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55. Hey.....Canada is now part of the UNION....thanks to the SPP...
our luck ran out when they sold us out.....hey that sounds way too familiar...I am sick and tired of our so called employees sellin us out while they rake in the moola and get the best care OUR money can buy!! and give themselves raises...shit..they should have to send the citizens a bill/law that we can VETO....no money for us...no money for you.

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:09 PM
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57. Well that doesn't sound good either but I'd rather be in B.C.
than just about anywhere in the U.S. Wouldn't you just love to know what really went on in Montebello? For * to give up vacation days it had to be good.......for him.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:56 PM
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68. You could read the USNORTHCOM link about Katrina in just that way.
The United States military was deeply involved in the response to the hurricane and subsequent flooding,” Renuart said. “While our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines helped thousands of people, we also learned many lessons.”


The US military was deeply involved with the flooding of NOLA, they say so themselves.

It is true that some "Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines" did help many people. A lot of people lived on MREs in the months after Katrina hit. Working relief in Mississippi, I know Keesler AFB and SeaBee Base fed and housed thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of volunteers, and participated in many community clean-ups.

But the tone of that sentence gives me pause. It sounds almost regretful... to paraphrase, "while we helped people, we also learned many lessons." What were those lessons? How to establish marshall law to protect the wealthy? I saw miles of barbed wire and armed military checkpoints protecting the scoured Coast that had been wealthy people's homes, while devastated neighborhoods literally on the other side of the tracks (the poorer, Blacker side) had no looting protection. So did they learn how to discriminate better, how to protect the monied population while dismissing the poor? Even the volunteers that were housed were mostly white people. (I was one of them, I know.) Looking at the military's responses in Mississippi and NOLA's together, in this light, a serious case can be made that how to better oppress "the masses" could be the lessons learned.


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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. Exactly...
Oh, we had to help people, we couldn't just stomp on them.
We'll fix that next time.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #68
101. Never Forget!
How much foreign aid was TURNED BACK by our Government at that time! Dr's & food shipped in from the SOuth, Castro, Chavez: NOT ALLOWED to HELP!
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:28 AM
Response to Reply #6
96. bombed is not correct, controlled demolition. nt
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:49 AM
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7. I don't like this one at all. Something is very wrong about this...
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:57 AM
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9. Vigilant Shield sounds like a name for birth control.
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 11:11 AM by paxmusa
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:57 AM
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11. It is...nt
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:59 AM
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12. More reason to vote for a candidate that is standing up for our constitution!!!
We need to think real hard before we make that important primary vote.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:02 AM
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15. Agreed. If they allow one of the good guys to run...that is. nt
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:23 AM
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18. If our votes count this time, we only have to fear ourselves.
America is the country of domestic violence and I mean no disrespect to anyone in a personal situation, it just makes a point. Its like we all stand around and take the abuse from our establishment when our rights say we dont have to but instead of standing up and defending ourselves, we continue to let them take our rights away from the constitution so they can do more harm. But we are so damn proud that we cant be honest with ourselves. You know its a great country when they dont abuse our civil liberties and there are no other countries out there better, this is the best one Ive had. You know the heats great except when he beats me and why not stick it out and hope for the best because there are none out there better? We are a beaten down and controlled people, period. And we all know that it only gets worse, it doesnt get better UNLESS you do something about it!

So to vote for a candidate because they will be better than the one we have now ( the bar is pretty low there ) instead of being an individual and voting for who is best for you ( not the corporations and wealthy ) would be disastrous and will continue the same abuses. We have to look for the one thats stands for US the people, period! But I am very afraid that our beaten down citizens will make the wrong choice in what I think is the most important election for the future of this country.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:48 PM
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45. Post partum birth control?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:01 AM
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13. Oh, I have some major problems with this.
Along with the no-flight thing on September 14. I have some serious problems with this bunch.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:22 AM
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17. What's this thing about the No-flight on Sept 14th?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 12:53 PM
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25. CNN reported it.........
The Air Force announced that all flights of fighters and bombers in the United States will be halted on September 14 to allow for a review of procedures.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:02 AM
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14. This is the SAME WEEK of the TOPOFF exercise in Portland Oregon.. a simulated WMD attack...
NORTHCOM is already involved at some level in this exercise.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:50 PM
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46. Criminy!
All this taking place at one time? Fuck me.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:29 PM
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60. And look what happened in July....I wasn't aware of this, were you?
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 05:31 PM by snappyturtle
The following is an excerpt from: U.S. Treasury Holds Disaster Drill in Tampa Bay

"The lack of media coverage is surprising considering the fact that the U.S. Dollar is registering all-time lows against other currencies, there are fears of a U.S. Dollar collapse and institutions like the Bank for International Settlements are warning of a possible global depression. The Department of the Treasury holding a post-disaster exercise of any sort is in fact extremely significant considering the current problems with the U.S. Dollar. The language of the press release states that the purpose of the exercise was to test the ability of financial institutions, federal and state regulators, state and local government officials and state and local first responders to quickly get to their feet after any disaster. This is open ended and indicates that this could have been a drill to prepare for any number of disasters from terrorism to a natural disaster or an economic collapse but the main focus clearly revolves around the financial community. The question is why the focus around the financial community? Are they preparing for something that we don’t know about?"


www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=3010

edit: the article states this drill was confirmed by Tampa Bay NBC affiliate WFLA
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:07 AM
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88. No, I wasn't.
Damn. What the hell is going on? Your post made me think, maybe they were preparing in case there is a run on the banks? Some scary stuff indeed.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:05 AM
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16. A new party has entered the Presidential Race....
The new Marshall Law Party.

We stand on your rights...
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:32 AM
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19. agree, they are standing on our rights and our throats


smirking all the while
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:33 AM
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20. Good
The populace is not going to wake up until the tanks are rolling down the streets. The sooner the better.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:44 AM
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21. The Populace is Awake Already
They haven't been able to get to sleep for 7 years.
** keeps telling them that terrorists will kill them in their sleep.

They are doing it again.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. But our congress is not.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:03 PM
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27. Congress is awake. They don't care. n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:10 PM
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49. Our Congress Has a Gun to Its Head
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #49
79. what gun? We should be the gun motivating congress.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #79
91. Well said, along with the 5 posts above this one!
It is "good" in the long term when Bush comes out of the shadows, the people are awake but under the narcotic of partial (not complete) control, the congress does have a gun to its head, but we should be the gun to its head instead of whoever is.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Perhaps when a few Congresspeople
get knocks on their doors Pelosi will put impeachment back on the table. Oops --- it'll be too late then.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #29
70. Pelosi put impeachment back on the table?
I don't think so!

She's part of the problem, not the solution.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:54 AM
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23. Don't think we'll be hearing updates from Tucker or Blitzer on this one...
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 12:43 PM
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24. I'll be out of the country (Peru). wonder if I'll be able to get back in on the 28th.
Wonder if I'll want to?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:32 PM
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61. You may be thanking your lucky stars you are out of the country.nt
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:08 PM
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28. Sounds Farmiliar - Didn't We Have War Games On 911?.....
remember what happened then.
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budibudinski Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:42 PM
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30. ..as well as Nukes being "accidentally" loaded on B-52's..
bet those NUKES were being sent to a seaport for further transport..how many others have been flown across this Country...

...and I do wonder at this point just WHAT those Mexican trucks are hauling across the Nation.
Odd that a week before this planned marshall law drill takes place, borders are opened and challenges to that law are denied flat out.
What is being transported en mass, and why have our own truckers been shut out of this transport deal? What don't 'they' want American citizens to know about the transports from Mexico?

Somethings up, alright. Where's Cheney?

Does this impending ? have anything to do with the sudden and quiet slinking away by Rove, Gonzoles, etc.
Should have impeached these fuckers when we had the chance.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #30
103. yes, not slinking away, but walking away smirking


they all have bought property out of the country. when I say all that includes neo con CEOs and the various neo con barons of one kind or the other.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:52 PM
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31. Wonder if they'll be testing biotoxin sensors in DC again this time?
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 01:55 PM by leveymg
Anyone remember the September 23, 2005 anti-war rally in DC? It was big, about a half million protestors. NORTHCOM ran a terrorism exercise, "Granite Shadow" during the march, someone let lose small quantities of a contageous bacteria, Tuleremia, setting off a number of biohazard sensors on the National Mall. See, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/01/AR2005100101209.html

Someone has a twisted sense of humour in Colorado Springs.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 01:57 PM
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32. Sounds a lot like the Vigilant Guardian wargames that some took advantage of
on a day in Sept. 2001. What might a group with foreknowledge 'piggyback' on to these exercises I wonder.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:08 PM
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33. Weren't there war games going on around the time of 9.11 as well?
Or is that false? Anyhow, Executive Order 51 was recently signed by Bush giving him true dictatorial powers in the event of an emergency. I truly have always thought that when more an more people got hip to their deceptions and started speaking out that they would have a back up plan to institute. And hell, why wouldn't they? We handed everything they need to them on a GD silver platter. The question now is, should this become a reality, will we lay down and die or get up and fight?
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bonnieS Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:41 PM
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42. Northcom games /playing us
The answer is "yes they were." My very first thought. So is the next attack October 15 ? My second thought.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #42
56. When you said October I couldn't help but think of the stock
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 05:10 PM by snappyturtle
market...it's never at its best in October is it? God what do they have planned for November....

Edit: Welcome to DU! :hi: I got so wrapped up in the topic I forgot to say, "Welcome"!

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:32 PM
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74. In London, on 7/7/05 ,the day of the underground bombings, anti-terror drills were taking place
simulating terror attacks on the underground in exactly the same places and times as the "real" attacks occurred.


7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?
Fictional 7/7 "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's subway


by Michel Chossudovsky

A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.

Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.

The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

(BBC Radio Interview, 7 July 2005)

Continued at:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821


You can watch (or download) the BBC interview transcribed above here:
http://www.lonelantern.org/london_terror_drills.html

However, you may all now safely go back to sleep. The coincidence theorists have assured us it was all just another gigantic coincidence.


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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #74
106. Coincidence? Sure it was.
Isn't everything? :sarcasm:
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:15 PM
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34. Send this to KO a.s.a.p.!
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:38 PM
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35. Vigilant Guardian was such a success.
This is very troubling.
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:39 PM
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36. practice makes perfect
btw, 9/11 was an inside, mkay?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:44 PM
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37. I say everyone out in the streets on those days. PROTEST THIS SHIT!!!
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:14 PM
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38. Announcement
I don't understand why they announce something like this to the public. Must be yet another fear tactic. How many years can one live in fear?
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:17 PM
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72. These guys are to stupid to even...
hide their intentions.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:12 AM
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89. I don't think it's just stupidity,
I think that it is arrogance. They can do whatever they want, who's gonna stop them?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:08 AM
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104. right, no one has stopped them for doing whatever they wanted

nt
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:21 PM
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39. WTF?
:grr:
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:22 PM
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40. The Bush fascists are planning on snuffing out dissent just like
Hitler did only they will be more covert about it.
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5fingersurfer Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:25 PM
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41. Presidential directive.....
I remember hearing about a presidential directive signed around 6 months ago that gives the potus the sole right to declare martial law for any reason without any oversight from the other branches. Congress had 60 days to review and reject. I hate to inform you but the 60 days have passed, so I am assuming the directive stands.

Has anyone seen the trading system on Popular Mechanics on questions of the future? They should put in the question of "will martial law be declared before our little shrub leaves office?"
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:42 PM
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43. Operation Noble Eagle
Troops being deployed (from the Orlando area) to Washington DC for the next year - Families encouraged to NOT be in contact with them during this time. This was posted to DU about a week or 10 days ago - It can be googled as I don't have the link at hand.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:47 PM
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44. This administration will never EVER give up their power and control
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:05 PM
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47. OMG...remember what happened when NORAD had a test case scenario for planes hitting buildings with
planes?!!!! 911 happened the day they were "practicing.":scared:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #47
76. That one was called "Vigilant Guardian".
Ironic, ain't it? I mean, 9/11 shows how fucking unvigilant and the worst guarding done in our country's history.

And we pay these fuckers how much do nothing?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:30 PM
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81. !
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:10 PM
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50. Aw crap. I'll be in London and have to miss it.
Goodness. Will I be able to return to the HOMELAND?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #50
65. Hell, you may not WANT to by the time Bush gets done with his tricks.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:19 PM
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52. ahhh yes and the bogeyman gets rolled out and on tv 24/7..woo wooo
gotta get scared..very very scared..and we will have "BREAKING REPORTS"

BOGEYMAN ALERT..BOGEYMAN ALERT..9/11 COMING..

sheeeeeeeett..i am so sick of this..

now they have us all ready for their terra alert..

short hairs alert..

we need someone nasty..dirty and nasty ..and naughty ..oh yes, yes , yes, very very nasty and naughty..to get our little brains off what they are planning...

i hate these feckers!

i hate them with every ounce of me..

and yes agent mike ..take that to the bank..of course, that is if there are any banks left when these feckers get done with us!

you decide agent mike!!

fly

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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:17 PM
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58. Is this a training exercise involving troops?
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 05:18 PM by Aviation Pro
Or is it one of the myriad number of Command Training Exercises that are run to test C3I (Command, Communication, Control and Intelligence)?
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:23 PM
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59. HEY WHAT THE FUCK FUCK FUCK?
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:33 PM
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62. at least we are being warned so it won't be a surprise-some consolation
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:42 PM
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63. Sooooo.... where do we get the idea this is "martial law" they're
practicing? Sorry, but, ever the skeptic, I followed your links to the original press release, and I don't see anyting that leads me to conclude that this has anything to do with "practicing martial law." Sounds like a lot of EMTs and nurses practicing mass emergency drills under the supervision of the DoD. What am I missing?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. They do this every year
There's been a "Vigilant Shield 06", "Vigilant Shield 07", etc, always in October. It's an annual training exercise. This is just a lot of hyperventilation about a fairly routine national security exercise.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:21 PM
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66. "Vigilant Shield" - yet another in the endless stream of Orwellian ironic names
Not that they read Orwell, just that he saw it coming.

K & R
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #66
82. they probably did read orwell
and liked the ideal empire of big brother so much that they are trying to make our country into the real thing.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:36 PM
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67. K&R'd (nm)
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:19 PM
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73. Fuck
This is some scary shit going down.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:52 PM
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75. The police state moves forward!
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:24 PM
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77. oh, this is just TOO lovely!! damn mf'rs. nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:27 PM
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78. Does anyone know this source? I've never heard of them.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:53 PM
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83. Here's a better source:
"The annual homeland defense Vigilant Shield exercise, sponsored by the North American Aerospace Defense Command, U.S. Northern Command and U.S. Strategic Command, tests the synchronization of the three commands in responding to complex scenarios that challenge the homeland defense matrix in the U.S. and Canada.

Sor far in the exercise, those inolved have dealt with a major aircraft accident involving nuclear weapons, worked to intercept foreign aircraft penetrating U.S. airspace, dealt with a murder-suicide and monitored deteriorating world events that are teetering North America on the brink of nuclear war.

The two-week exercise challenges the joint team's ability to respond to asymmetric, around-the-clock attacks to better practice crucial warfighting skills, said Col. Mike Beale, Contingency Action Team director for Vigilant Shield."

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123034140

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:56 PM
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84. That article is from 2006. This Op is discussing a new "exercise" for this fall.
And we've all reacted as if it is a fact, but the source is one guy I never heard of with a website I enver heard of. That's why I'm asking.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:14 PM
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85. It's a real exercise
August 30, 2007

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. – North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command along with U.S. Pacific Command, the Department of Homeland Security as well as local, state and other federal responders will exercise their response abilities against a variety of potential threats during Exercise Vigilant Shield ‘08, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff-designated, North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM)-sponsored, and U.S. Joint Forces Command-supported Department of Defense exercise for homeland defense and defense support of civil authorities missions.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:4RZ6x9Zcxm8J:www.northcom.mil/News/2007/083007.html+Vigilant+Shield+08&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


Google cache of the NORTHCOM site. The actual site seems to be down. :tinfoilhat:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:23 AM
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107. Thank-you Marie.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:31 PM
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86. We need to let our Congress people know that this is unacceptable asap.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:33 AM
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99. what exactly should we be telling them is "unacceptable"
"Vigilant shield" exercises have been held annually for several years. What exactly in Norad's description of the exercise would you tell a congress person is "unacceptable"?

http://www.norad.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf
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everydayis911 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:00 AM
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92.  Jeb Bush
Claimed Martial law Sept 10 2001 when brother Bush was there. And on sept 10th 2001 2.3 trillion dollars went missing at the Pentagon. How much will they steal this time before we get attacked? And as far as the levee's being blown that is believable but you know we all see the towers being blown and some think were nuts.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:39 AM
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94. true
and ya know... we have the radical religious right to thank for this plethora of SHIT. their capitulation in giving their allegiance so blindly to these people who just claimed to be holy (the GOP) who then turn around and commit all these horrible ungodly offenses, are to blame for a lot of this. people in general aren't the brightest, so therefore, many people who call themselves faithful will be gullible to wolves in sheep's clothing getting in to the farm. I pray to God for this nightmare to end soon.

the revolution will not be televised, isn't that what they say?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:12 AM
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105. true about Jeb and Fl.
nt
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:15 AM
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93. Martial Law is not something that needs to be "practiced".
Like practicing for an allergic reaction to penicillin.
Disaster protection and martial law are two very different things under this administration and if anyone thinks we are just being paranoid...remember it is Bush and Cheney in power where conspiracy is more the rule of thumb than a theory.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:46 AM
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97. practicing martial law?
here is a typical story on blacklistednews.com-
APEC: road show of the ‘new world order’
( Published on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 ) http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4170
Three-metre high security fences, heart-stopping tasers, a bone-smashing water cannon, mobile prison buses and — perhaps most disturbing of all — the threat of automatic incarceration for randomly abducted protesters?


here is the pdf of fact sheet
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf

Exercise VIGILANT SHIELD Objectives:
Demonstrate multi­agency, multi­jurisdictional unity of effort in support of a civilian ­led
response to a national crisis through collaboration with local, state, and federal responders
to a series of catastrophic events.
.........
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:49 AM
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98. thanks for finding both of those links
I seem to remember a similar exercise announced (in advance) a few years ago - and nothing at the time or afterwards (in that one they identified some cities that were test areas) - in the end the impression was that the exercises had been fairly low key. I am not saying we shouldn't pay attention. We should. But I don't know that we should be in a frenzy - and your post of another sample blacklisted . com site suggests that it should not be the primary or sole source for info that gets us into one (a frenzy.)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:33 AM
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100. Birth of plots and dots
Special nukes fly across the US. The same type as were "lost by Clinton" in the ME in 1985, "presumed to have been recovered by Iran", capable at least of being "dirty bomb material". We have, again, those oh so special military exercises taking place. We have possibly an internecine struggle among nations for the market and money supply, possibly due to China's pullout of funds "despite a threat of retaliation to bomb iran, their oil supplier". We have Cheney's intention to have his media lapdogs of war go into action soon against Iran "with no intention really of succeeding with the majority of the American public". We have more stories specifically of inner WH dialogs about "daring anything until physically stopped" and "having planned to commit war with full knowledge of the false pretenses".

All these were on recent DU posts. It would be incumbent on all humans with any such knowledge to erase the dots, stop the lines, by the process of bringing them to light and to accountability.

So why isn't the MSM doing its job and reporting on more shark attacks? Why can't the Dems in Congress tell us why nothing can be done about any of this at this time? Has Hillary Clinton raised her umbrella against the fallout spinning down from a another, more visible, undefended against, blatant and in progress, crime against humanity? Or has merely exposing the dot, in a little online reference, connecting her husband to lost U.S. nuclear material, been enough to prevent a line being drawn around her candidacy's neck?
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:16 AM
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102. 1985?
DO you mean 1995? Reagan was President in '85.
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