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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:24 PM
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How She Would Govern
Using her time as First Lady, Newsweek thinks they know:

How She Would Govern
A year before the election, Hillary Clinton seems like the safest money in the 2008 race. So what kind of leader would she be?
Sept. 17, 2007 issue - Hillary Clinton has been in politics long enough to know the value of the word "change." In 1992, her husband's political guru, James Carville, hung a white sign in the Clinton campaign war room that read CHANGE VS. MORE OF THE SAME. Bill Clinton won the presidency that year with 370 electoral votes.


What no one could see was that the First Lady had been taking stock all along. Clinton launched her campaign for the Senate in July 1999 at Moynihan's farm in upstate New York. (The elder statesman was retiring from the Senate; he died in 2003.) The symbolism was clear: this new Hillary would work for common cause with reasonable people, whether they agreed with her entirely or not. Early in the campaign, some in New York's Democratic Party concluded that the candidate was too polarizing to make headway in conservative upstate New York and should focus solely on boosting her margins in New York City and its surrounding suburbs. But Clinton was eager to wade into unfriendly territory. Howard Wolfson, Clinton's senior communications adviser then and now, recalls her turning to him after a positive reaction from an audience on an early trip upstate. "We should be spending more time up here," she said. She was right; Clinton won her Senate seat with 55 percent of the vote, thanks in part to the long hours she'd spent talking about small issues upstate. Searching for Capitol Hill office space with Tamera Luzzatto, her new chief of staff, Clinton learned that a stately open suite in the Russell Senate Office Building had belonged to Moynihan. Luzzatto and Clinton looked at each other and said, "Karma—we've got to go for it."



But the real evidence about what kind of president Hillary would be may lie in the things she isn't saying—or isn't saying yet. Friends and advisers say that the current Iraq debate obscures a simple truth about Hillary Clinton: 15 years inside The System have made her a fervent believer in the strong, smart management of American power. "At this stage of the '91 campaign, Bill Clinton didn't know anything about the use of power and only a limited amount about international affairs," says a top aide who was aware he was deviating from campaign script and would discuss Clinton's thinking only anonymously. "She's tougher than he is. She's not going to advertise that during the primary process. But everyone who knows her knows that."

Or at least those who think they know her. It is a curious fact of the 2008 campaign that Hillary Clinton has been part of American life for so long and yet the details of her thinking, and the ways in which she makes decisions, are so little understood. To get the chance to change the country, she will have to make the case that she herself has changed.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20649206/site/newsweek/page/0/

Video at link as well: http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid452329876/bctid1173351841

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:27 PM
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1. I'm pretty sure I have an idea.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:31 PM
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2. Lets hope we don't have to find out. Living with just another corporate moderate at best!
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 01:32 PM by LaPera
Man, does the right wing and their main stream press ever tire of pushing her as our only option? As if she has already won....Why do they want her so badly?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:39 PM
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4. She seems to be the right wings Democrat of choice
Since they don't actually have a right wing candidate that amounts to squat. They are going to push Hillary in hopes they can turn around and smear her in the campaign against the republicon
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:46 PM
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5. Actually, she's the choice of the RW-ers in this Party, too....
Just saying.


TC



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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:15 PM
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14. well, by DU standards anyone to the right of Noam Chomsky
is a right winger


just sayin'....
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:01 PM
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17. That is absolutely not true!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:23 PM
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18. the absolute horseshit
that gets posted on this board day after day after day after day

concerning Hillary Clinton and certain other Democrats

might lead any observer without an investment here

to believe exactly that.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:06 AM
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20. I do not support Chomsky. I do not support Cindy Sheehan and I also do not support Hillary.
I do support Nancy Pelosi.Many of us on DU are a mixed bag.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:38 PM
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3. She will be the best President DLC and Corporate $$$ have bought yet.
She'll keep the troops just where they are, and maybe even send a few elsewhere. (No use pissing off the War Machine!)

She'll try as hard as she can to get us Universal Health Insurance. (No use pissing off all those Big Insurance Co's!)

She'll keep the Patriot Act in Place.

She'll make sure none of the Republicans from this administration are held to account for their actions, let alone be impeached.

Workers will still be outsourced.

And, the list will go on and on.....

But, the GOOD NEWS IS she's a DEMOCRAT! At least we'll be getting screwed by one of our own for a change. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

TC






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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:57 PM
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6. Say no more
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:28 PM
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19. Maybe she should be cozying up to Hugo Chavez instead.(n/t)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:41 PM
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7. She was a radical left type in the 70's - more moderate now - but still a solid liberal - I'd have
no problem in the General if the Democratic Party nominated her. She'd be easy to vote for.

Indeed after many many Democrats that tout very small accomplishments for the left - if any - but say they have more "left" goals than the other guy, she'd may well be a vote for real change - largest step to the left possible rather than small steps - indeed I'd like to see some decent sized governmental wins for the left.

I do see her working with everyone - much like Obama - and that of course includes the GOP and the GOP like DLCers - but I see her goals as well to the left of the DLC.

It will be interesting to see her approach to universal health that is promised in the next 14 days.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:03 PM
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9. She wasn't a "radical left " type in the 70's.She was a Goldwater Girl!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:06 PM
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13. At age 16 she was a "Goldwater Girl" - at Weleslley College she was a liberal. n/t
n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:00 PM
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16. Like she is a "liberal " today ,who supports outsourcing our jobs?
Like Bill Clinton was a real "liberal " when he cut welfare and signed NAFTA ? Give me a break!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:14 AM
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21. NAFTA was signed by Daddy Bush, Welfare work requirement was overdue for those
without kids or dependents - the job training helped a lot of people to a better life - and the states stepped up to fix the holes in the net it created for stay at home moms who could not find inexpensive daycare.

The outsourcing by Hillary ?? - she voted against CAFTA with lack of any outsourcing protection as one reason (Obama also voted against CAFTA) Perhaps you refer to India's Tata consultant office in upper New York State that employs about 2 dozen people, almost all from India, which she helped to locate in New York? Or is it her speech in favor of international trade - where she says she wants fair trade - not free trade?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:05 PM
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10. I was fully for Hillary
I have been a Hillary fan since she was first lady. I cheered her decision to enter the race for President. I was a huge Bill Clinton fan throughout is term in the White House.
I have made many trips to hear Hillary speak, taken my girls to get books signed by her. She lost me though with some of the things she has said and she has come across as too centrist and even right leaning.
She is too comfy with the corporate machine and then comes the media push keeping her on top.

Now if she gets the nomination? I will have to back her because no matter what, I will never vote for another republicon and we must get someone besides a republicon in office.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:15 PM
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15. until we have federal financing of elections the corporate machine will have "access" - I am
really looking forward to her health care proposal as that will define her as to "liberal".

Edwards has the international terror version of NATO idea, the poverty ideas, the union ideas, while Richardson has the best energy ideas, and Bidden the best Iraq solution idea (that one is a personal preference of course - but I do not see out now immediately as a viable option in the real world - his draw down to level of protect themselves and train Iraqi's seems logical - and the partition seems long overdue - we have ignored the "ethnic cleansing" because that eventually means fewer clashes between houses and streets - so we show "progress"). Hillary needs to either adopt a best ideas of others approach or give us a better health idea than Edwards.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:58 PM
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8. Let's see now -- the capitalist rag "Newsweek" loves her
what's wrong with THAT picture...
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:06 PM
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11. Two words: Status Quo
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:12 PM
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12. Another Status Quo here . . .
I would vote for Hillary if it was she against anyone else - but in my heart (I know - we Dems always get castigated for having those) - I really feel that MY Vice President deserves at shot at the Presidency. I believe my FIRST choice in 2004 (Wes. C) should get a shot at being the V.P.

That said, I don't trust the 'source'. I trust a Clinton supporter at D.U. over 'that' magazine. They'll stand in their own truth and share it with me from my perspective.
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