DEAN supporters and well-wishers only

[Skinner]

This is the official thread for Dean supporters and well-wishers to discuss his performance in the Wisconsin primary, free of disruption.

If you are not a Dean supporter or a well-wisher, please do not post in this thread. The purpose of this thread is for disruption-free discussion among Dean supporters. Any negative posts by opponents will be deleted by the moderators. We will open up separate threads where supporters of the other candidates can interact without disruption from opponents.

[edzontar]

1. Hello. I sure am happy to be with y'all tonight.

I hope things go well.

In any case, let's hope for a squeaker to keep the race alive.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Hope Dean does well

He offers a true alternative to Kerry and Edwards.

[SWPAdem]

3. Good luck, keep your heads up

and don't forget to flip off the friggin media.

[slinkerwink]

4. thanks!

If I ever see Bob Novak on the street, I'll scream "TRAITOR" at him and tell Crowley to take a major hike up Ice Cream Lane...

[juajen]

Hi slinkerwink

I'm crossing my fingers tonight just for Dean. He has heart and courage and imbued all the candidates with these things during this hard fought race. It was, and still is, exciting to watch him and his supporters. I hope no matter how the primary goes down tonight, that Dean will stay in to the very end for all our sakes. We all need to know that we make a difference and that our contribution is needed by the party.

I admire very much your loyalty to your candidate.

[janx]

84. Why does your post have no number?

Just curious.

[Kurovski]

77. Do you mean Candy?

As in: "Crawling for candy?"

[DebJ]

5. Fellow Dean supporters, please see my post to sign a petition online

complaining to the DNC. Please sign!

[janx]

8. I signed already--but thanks, and keep spreading the word.

It's so important.

[edzontar]

28. I signed too..it was slow..but be patient...

The signature DOES get through.

[Crunchy Frog]

71. As a Clarkie

I would be happy to join you in signing a petition complaining to the DNC. I havn't read through the thread yet, if it's not here could you please direct me to it? Thanks.

[EXE619K]

6. Go Dean!

Never give up the fight!

The rebellion is just beginning!

WOO-HOO!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Skwmom]

7. Good luck

I hope Dean stays in the race. I'm sick and tired of the media and the DNC trying to dictate who stays in the race.

[edzontar]

9. Initial reports suggest an Edwards-Kerry dead heat, with Dean behind

Looks bad--oh well...i guess we are getting used to this by now--aren't we?

[MercutioATC]

13. Looks bad??? We get more delegates! That's a GOOD thing!

Every additional delegate is important. Sure, I'd like us in the top two, but I'm happy as long as we're getting the delegate count up.

[edzontar]

16. I only mean bad in that Dean is probably not winning it....

I hope he stays in, of course....
I want to vote for him in PA in April (and will as long as he is on the ballot)

[MercutioATC]

37. Me too (Super Tuesday here). I'm voting for him even if he's NOT on

the ballot. I'm sure as hell not voting for Kerry or Edwards in the primary...I think they represent what's gone wrong with the Party.

[edzontar]

39. Well he's on the ballot here at present--I just signed the petition

Last week.

And we have more than enough sigs.

[MercutioATC]

42. I guess I meant "even if he withdraws prior to Super Tuesday"...

My point is that I'm voting for him regardless.

[DebJ]

55. Have you heard for sure that Dean has made the PA ballot? The

deadline for the 2000 required signatures was just TODAY. Do you have any definite word, I hope?
Deb in Pa

[edzontar]

85. My local people (Dem party) seemed to think everything was fine....

You can write in here anyway, but I think it is done.

Kerry was facing the same deadline, I do know that.

[dsc]

50. He is on our ballot

our absentees have already been sent out.

[Lugnut]

93. Same here.

I'll be voting for Dr. Dean on April 27th.

[Rationality]

20. On to Super Tuedsay

*sigh*

[edzontar]

26. And then..on to PA!!!!!!

In April!!!

YEEEAGGHHHH!

[Rationality]

38. :D

[DebJ]

57. What does that mean?

[Rationality]

83. :D = :)

[spooky3]

10. good luck to everyone!

[calimary]

11. My heart still belongs to "Hollerin' Howard."

Still.

I'll vote for Kerry in the general. I'll vote for whomever or whoever is our standard-bearer. But my heart, and my activism, was revved up by - Howard Dean. The doctor who gave the Dems a backbone transplant.

[edzontar]

12. We may a get a chance yet. Edwards is doing well....

Which keeps the race itself open....for me, it is still a win of sorts if Kerry doesn't get it, or is at least forced to do battle.

[Woodstock]

95. Agree. Dean is the best of the bunch

Sigh.

[lostnfound]

98. I wish he could give backbones to the public as a whole!

Not just the Democratic party leaders..What is it with this wussy public? Scared away because he can yell at a pep rally? Jeesh, better than the cheerleader-in-resident..

If we can figure out why the American public seems so willing to be told what to think by the press, maybe we can have a real-person for a president again someday.

I love DK like a brother or like Frodo -- hence the avatar -- but Dean would make an absolutely great -- and electable -- president were it not for the media whores standing in his way.

I just don't trust Kerry & it will be MOTS. We need a leader for the country AND for the party, and Dean should be it.

[bigwillq]

14. Despite the early results my faith is in the doctor

Good luck Howie!! Thanks to all Dean supporters out there. We can make a difference.

[edzontar]

15. I am with Dean till the bitter end.

But I am still glad about Edwards...comparatively....

[bigwillq]

22. Glad for Edwards too

Glad someone is making it a race, wish it were Dean though

[edzontar]

30. Indeed. I went over to congratulate them.

They are making an excellent showing so far.

[Joe the Revelator]

17. Whats up Deaniacs ?

no matter what happens tonight, keep your heads up. Hopefully Dean will pull a surprise out of his hat. Either way, my thoughts are with y'all.

[slinkerwink]

18. thank you for saying that!

[edzontar]

19. Hi slink. So, you are back now too? Great to see you!!!!!

I am hoping the exit polls are screwed up. They have been before...in any case, at least its not another Kerry cakewalk....

Go Dean!!!!!

[slinkerwink]

25. same here too!

It's nice to be back.

[edzontar]

32. I missed your smiling avatar.

nt.

[slinkerwink]

46. aww, that's so sweet of you!

[edzontar]

47. I guess I am in a good mood or something, which is odd...

Given the projections.

But to see at least some of us back in play after the last few difficult days is a bit of a lift, no?

[Joe the Revelator]

21. Its the least I can do

I still feel the Clark SUPPORTERS and the Dean SUPPORTERS are kindered souls. We had a tough week last Tuesday and i'm hoping that you all don't have to go through that same thing :).

[edzontar]

34. Not the LEAST---it is the BEST--thanks so very much.

It is a great thing to have colleagues like you on this board.

[janx]

45. Thanks, sweetie.

It is appreciated. :hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Best of Luck Tonight!

I really, really, really hope Dean does well tonight!

[SadEagle]

24. A reminder...

...Exit polls showed gen. Clark doing worse in TN than he really did.

[Anwen]

35. True.

At this point it's still too early to tell what is going to happen.

[RetroLounge]

27. Well, I'm here, but avoiding the TV

and working around the house instead.

Feeling sad, yet also glad to see Howard will stay in the race.

[Anwen]

29. Me too.

I tried watching TV earlier. As soon as I heard some woman comparing Dean to a "washed up rock star" I had to turn it off. Yep, no TV for me tonight!!!

[formernaderite]

62. The media commentary gives me acid reflux...

...I'm constantly flicking the remote. From looking at their(the media's) faces, you immediately notice the smugness...ah yes...we're still in control of "who" gets the nod.

[Anwen]

65. I know what you mean...

watching the news sends my blood pressure through the roof. This past week has been especially bad. :(

[Darth_Kitten]

33. Wisconsin is funny.........

independents can vote. :eyes: hmmmm.... I don't know.

[Bill McBlueState]

31. Wolfie "distant-distant"

Twice at least Wolf Blitzer has said "Dean is a distant, distant third." When he said that, I thought, 'shit, Dean's in the single digits.' But Faux has him about 15 points behind Edwards, with about 18%.

So he's still getting delegates out of this. Settle down, Wolfie.

[edzontar]

36. Wolfie--man of integrity--NOT!!!!!

I dislike him very much.

[Darth_Kitten]

40. Wolfie is kinda like confused you know omigosh

like, he doesn't know if Dean will stay in or drop out. ahhhh.... :nopity: don't TEASE me, Wolf!!!

Go DEAN!!!! :bounce:

[GodHelpUsAll2]

41. I have faith

I will stick with Howard to the end. I know we are all trying to avoid tv tonight but in case anyone is interested. All the candidates will be on Larry King (CNN) at 9:00 central. I can't resist watching Howard. I wish the others would shut the hell up asking the "embed" and Joe Trippi "What will Howard Dean do now that he can't possible go on" BASTARDS!

PRICELESS> Chris Matthews is interviewing John Edwards and asked him if it was down to "nut cutting" time. ROFLOL Edwards just laughed and Matthews busted a gut and tried to back track.

[lostnfound]

97. Me too. Wolfie probably has a bonus riding on it...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets bonuses! He's such a tiresome, gloomy guy when he wants to be.

[janx]

43. HA! Watch what will happen. Madison will not report.

We'll be left hanging without Madison results...

I can almost prophesy this.

(Sorry. I'm just feeling a bit burned at this point after Washington and Maine.)

[GodHelpUsAll2]

48. Don't forget Michigan

What the heck ever happened there with the voting places being moved and all that mess?

[edzontar]

49. Please Madison, get those results in!!!!!

Nt.

[NoPasaran]

44. No TV for me

Even the Daily Show is in reruns this week.

So... how many people did you put on Ignore today? I lost count myself.

[opihimoimoi]

51. Hope Doc Dean does well.

Of the bunch, he is the best.

If he can just hang on a little longer, the tide may turn.

Good luck to the Dean Camp,

Opi

[Rowdyboy]

52. Guys, as an ex-Clark supporter, and an ex-Graham supporter, ....

I've seen some very bad nights in the last six months. We're all going to have more bad nights in the months to come. You just learn to live through them because thats part of politics. You lose many more than you win.

Hell, I'm still bitching that Mo Udall lost the Democratic nomination to Jimmy Carter in 1976. Some hurts/losses you don't forget; but you do learn to live with them because you must. Just remember to try to keep your eyes on the prize.

[maddezmom]

53. Chins up and Heads up!

No matter what happens tonight, Dean and his grassroots supporters have changed politics as usual. Keep the faith. :grouphug:

[janx]

54. GO JANESVILLE!

I want to hear the results from Janesville and Rhinelander! Where can I find these results?

[edzontar]

56. As the numbers come in, they are tightening...

And Dean's have gone up to 18 % now, hope this trend continues.....

[NashVegas]

58. 19% now on AP

I hope the trend upwards continues.

[edzontar]

61. Let's all concentrate really hard on that number and bring it up, up, up..

Maybe we can pull this out yet--

[Anwen]

67. I hope so edzontar!

I'm thinking positive thoughts....it's VERY hard, but I'm trying! :)

[Tinoire]

59. Good luck Dean supporters. Gas up the Dean machine! n/t

[edzontar]

60. We certainly shall-and THANKS so much!!

nt

[Tinoire]

91. I'm at the Kucinich station but any gas I can spare goes to you

and the Edwards (NAFTA,NAFTA will determine who's first in line ;) )

I love you guys because this is a populist movement.

"Bush is already beginning his air war — not because they're afraid of Howard Dean, but because they're afraid of you"

Joe Trippi. The effing low down bastard pit-bull we need to go after Rove.

[nofurylike]

82. there's so much amazing support in here, and

this just sent me chills

thank you all so much!!


peace!

[DebJ]

63. CNN just called it for Kerry with 23% in. But it's at 38 Kerry/38 Edwards

[janx]

64. No surprise.

Edit: And all the more reason to listen to what Dean is saying about the media.

[Anwen]

66. WTF!

:wtf: I shouldn't be this surprised, but I can't help it. It's still unbelievable to me.

[janx]

69. Yep. 23% in, and CNN calls it.

The power of the media, eh?

[xxqqqzme]

68. sent my absentee ballot in

last week so I voted 4 the good Dr B4 'super Tuesday'. Went 2 a Dean House Party last night, had 32 people there - 10 of them were new Dean fans. His energy is still getting 2 people.

[Joe the Revelator]

70. How Old is Howard? nt

[janx]

72. I think he's around 55 or 56 years old. Why? n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

75. He looks younger then that....

I was just trying to figure out how many more times he could run if this go round doesn't work out for him. I think if America dosn't accept him now, in a few years they will be ready for him.

[SadEagle]

73. 55

eom

[mvd]

74. That was a nice speech

Dean's always been my second fave behind Kucinich - I will be sad if Dean drops out - and whatever happens, he brought needed perspective to this race. My Kucinich and also Sharpton have done their job, but it's Dean who had enough influence to make the other main candidates talk like the Democrats they are.

[Ramsey]

76. Whatever happens

Dean has my undying loyalty and respect. I will always believe he made this campain about the issues we all really care about: health care, responsible fiscal policy, responsible foreign policy. Dean's ideas truly resonate with me more than any politician I have ever known. Whether he stays in this race or not, I hope to seem him in the public life in this country for a long time to come. He is a refreshing breath of air in a stagnant cesspool.

[progressiverealist]

78. Actually, no longer a stagnant cesspool

thanks in large part to Dr. Dean.

I've had my differences for the "Nobody But Dean" crowd but one thing is certain: Howard Dean has done a ton to help the Democratic Party find its voive again.

[JohnLocke]

79. God Bless Howard Dean!!

Ya done good, Howard. You should be proud of yourself, and all of your supporters should as well.

On edit: grammar.

[nofurylike]

80. thanks to you all for this strength and reason!! KEEP ON!! n/t

[ngGale]

81. All the best to the Dean supporters from...

an Edwards supporter. Hope he doesn't get pressure to drop out. I respect and like him a lot.

[mmonk]

86. Dropped in to say

stay in and I hope Howard does well and gains some steam. I was enjoying his speech before the Edwards pre-emption. Howard Dean has done alot for this party.

[candy331]

88. Dean whatever you decide to do

know that you are a man of truth and integrity and I am with you to the end. The people will do the same old thing and hope for different results. Perhaps they will wake up one day.The movement will go on hope you continue to be an integral part of it

[mermaid]

96. Hear, hear!!

Too many people jumping on the Kerry bandwagon, too afraid to not be riding the "winning horse."
Pitiful.

Dean stands up for what I believe in.

And he has my support for as long as he is soliciting it.

Failing that, Edwards was my original candidate of choice, until Dean caught my attention, so his showing in Wisconsin in somewhat heartening.

I'm sorry folks, but I can't stomach Kerry...which will be MOTS....

[SadEagle]

87. Listening to him on CSPAN now...

... He mentioned freedom from indefinite detention as an important right...

THAT is why he is my choice. He did not bring up the warm and fuzzy issue. He brought up the tough and controversial one.

[slinkerwink]

89. that's why I'm with Dean all the way to the end.....

because he earned my support and my vote.

[Anwen]

90. Same here!

He earned my support a long time ago, and I can't wait to vote for him on Super Tuesday. :)

[NoPasaran]

92. Dean stands up for me

And I stand for Howard Dean.

[WiseMen]

94. Congrats. 18% nothing to be ashamed about. Hope Dean Stays!

[lostnfound]

99. Corporate America doesn't want BALANCE.

Dean is balanced. He's "nobody's boy" but his own, and that's a good thing. Kerry may have voted mostly liberal over the years, but when the corporate chips are down, I think he knows "where the money is", and will cave in to pressure despite the will of the people. Dean would stand in our corner if we-the-people really care about an issue.

I'm feeling pretty angry about this. This election is more of the same warfare by corporations on the American people. And it's not like Dean is some radical!!

It's just so infuriating that the media moguls and backroom deals are probably deciding this.

[lostnfound]

100. FTW: Dean poses threat to the establishment ..not sufficiently harnessed

On the Kucinich thread, someone posted this link: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/102003_beyond_bush_2.html

FTW's comment on Dean is that "He poses a threat to the establishment because he is an outsider who hasn't been sufficiently harnessed to know what directions he would or would not take if elected."

Ironically, it's a catch-22. While speaking out truthfully on some of the big issues like military interventions, Israel, free trade agreements etc helps build the support of many activists, and helps educate the public, it is also puts a guy in the crosshairs of the elites to do so.