Petreaus Is Laying Out The Groundwork Today For * To Declare Victory.....

[global1]

and draw down forces considerably as we near the Nov '08 election.

This is *'s legacy plan being laid out today.

[Christa]

1. good god

I think you are right.

I am so PISSED I can hardly breathe.

[angstlessk]

3. Why are you pissed, that is good news...I think? n/t

[Mass]

2. Exactly - He is proposing coming back to presurge numbers in July 2008, and

nore recommendation in March 2008.

[Klukie]

4. Yeah....

But you notice how it is only drawn down to pre-surge levels....Not good enough IMO.

[polichick]

5. It's beyond sickening...

But lots of Americans will probably fall for the Bush as Hero fairytale.

[Buzz Clik]

6. The initial draw down in the Spring of '08 has been predicted for nearly six months.

We will reduce numbers in 2008, but we will not get to zero troops for several years.

The Dems need to get vocal NOW to 1) stand behind the military forces without conditions; 2) continue to openly and loudly tell Bush to reduce troop numbers in a reasonable fashion; 3) fund the military in Iraq but don't allow expansion; 4) take credit for every successful action that Bush takes in Iraq.

Point 4 is crucial. The Dems are in control of Congress -- without their support, Bush can't have his little Pyrrhic victories. We support the troops unconditionally, so their successes are our successes. Do NOT let the right somehow co-opt any military gains as their gains; they pulled that bullshit after Afghanistan, and we cannot let them do it here.

[global1]

7. The Dems Vocalizing.....

1. they've been standing behind the military forces since the beginning of this occupation and they will have to continue this support - this is without question
2. they've been openly and loudly telling * to reduce troop levels - but now as it begins to actually happen *Co will openly and loudly tell us that it is because of their brilliant decision to initiate the 'surge'
3. they'll have to continue to fund the military - however - the focus will be on needing to funding to make sure the draw-down will go smoothly and any expansion funds for safety in the draw-down and will be used to counteract Iran's interference during the process
4. the Dems will attempt to take credit - but will be outsmarted in the media by the *Co MSM right wing talking heads and support

By the time we reach the Nov '08 elections - the media will be talking about *'s resolve, his stubborness concede defeat; and his decisiveness during this whole process. As an added bonus look for OBL to be killed and handed to the American people as completing *'s committment as he stood on the pile of rubble of the WTC after 911 - saying we will get these people.

Look for the OBL thing to happen pretty close to the anniversary of 911 in '08.

[Buzz Clik]

9. Agree/disagree

1. they've been standing behind the military forces since the beginning of this occupation and they will have to continue this support - this is without question

This is very much in doubt in the eyes of the general population. We are losing this aspect of the PR war, and it should change.

2. they've been openly and loudly telling * to reduce troop levels - but now as it begins to actually happen *Co will openly and loudly tell us that it is because of their brilliant decision to initiate the 'surge'

Damn right he will! And we cannot let him get away with it. We should pre-empt this rather than wait for him.

3. they'll have to continue to fund the military - however - the focus will be on needing to funding to make sure the draw-down will go smoothly and any expansion funds for safety in the draw-down and will be used to counteract Iran's interference during the process

We agree again.

4. the Dems will attempt to take credit - but will be outsmarted in the media by the *Co MSM right wing talking heads and support

It will happen if we let it happen. Moving early, decisively, and loudly is mandatory.

As for the October surprise... eh. Maybe.

[midlife_mo_Jo]

8. Good!

Declare victory.

Come home.

Let the historians sort it out. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[maxsolomon]

10. let the accountants sort it out

the whole war has been charged on a credit card funded by china. its not in the budget.

[gasperc]

11. it's a con, still 140,00 next year same as 2006

and then any violence after drawdown's in 2009 will be hung around the next PRESIDENT's neck. It's all crap, continuous drawn down all next year, TIMETABLE NOW.