Kerry 'inevitability'--- DOA in Wisconsin?

[Cuban_Liberal]

Will an Edwards win stop the 'inevitable nominee' chant to rest until March 9th, if not altogether? :)

Edit: typo

[David Dunham]

1. Nope. Anti-NAFTA Edwards will go down in big trading NY and CA

[Cuban_Liberal]

2. He won't in IL.

IL, the second-largest exporting state in the nation, is VERY anti-NAFTA.

[David Dunham]

3. Dukakis won IL primary big in 1988. JK will now and put JE away.

[Cuban_Liberal]

4. We'll see, won't we.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, they say. :)

[EXE619K]

7. Question here....

How is the Edwards camp doing on the money issue?

Do you know?

[Cuban_Liberal]

8. We're solvent.

And tonight should better that situation. Everyone loves a winner! :)

[EXE619K]

9. Great to hear!

Thanks.

If Edwards can harness the Dean people somehow.....

John Kerry might be in big trouble.

Never underestimate the power of the Anti-Kerry sentiments.

edit: schpelling

[Cuban_Liberal]

10. I've maintained that all along.

This party is filled with people who do NOT think John Kerry is the best we can do for a nominee.

[aldian159]

26. We are?

[Tinoire]

22. Edwards may do very well in CA. NAFTA is an important issue to us. n/t

[Cuban_Liberal]

27. It is in IL, too. n/t

[edzontar]

5. I for one would be happy if that were the case.

Edwards is doing very well, and the trade-jobs issue is starting to break--BIG--acrss the entire nation.

It is a god night, and a delay, at least in the "inevitabilty" narrative.

[Cuban_Liberal]

6. Yes.

People WILL be taking a second look at Edwards now, as well they should. :)

PS--Welcome back to GD-P2004!

[edzontar]

17. Thanks--it was a rough coupl'a days....

I am glad I didn't miss this interesting night.

[Cuban_Liberal]

18. Glad you're back.

:)

[Zynx]

11. Go Edwards! Pull off an upset.

Within 5 points is an upset. Beating is a disaster for Kerry's momentum.

[Cuban_Liberal]

31. It's as close as OK!

:)

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. Let's see what happens

when we have primaries where repukes aren't voting for Edwards, shall we?

[David Dunham]

13. Kerry-Clark -- all the way to the White House!!

[Cuban_Liberal]

14. Like they won't vote in November?

:eyes:

[DIBL]

23. they will....

for shrub

[Cuban_Liberal]

25. I wouldn't bet on that.

His support is a mile wide and an inch deep, among some elements in that party.

[edzontar]

19. Let's allow the Edwards folks to have their night....

We might be able to get those votes again in the general--who knows?

[scheming daemons]

34. Don't patronize...

...Edwards is going to have more than this "one night".

He's a stronger candidate in the GE than Kerry... and over the next two weeks, prior to Super Tuesday, America is going to come to realize it.


Kerry won the vote tonight... but the story is Edwards. A southerner pulling in 35% in a northern midwestern state after he was polling at 9% a week ago?

That's across-the-board appeal, my friend. Kerry still needs 1,400 delegates... Edwards needs 1,900. With 33 states that have yet to vote, it is in range for Edwards...

You can have your "let them have their night" comment and shove it where the sun doesn't shine... There's a sea change in the Democratic party that started tonight....


GO JRE!

[jpgray]

15. Edwards spent a lot in WI, as he did in SC

He did what he needed to do--prove he can win outside the South.

[Cuban_Liberal]

16. Yep.

So much for the 'he can't win outside the South' argument.

[The Magistrate]

20. Sen. Edwards, Sir

Has certainly established himself as a genuine contender.

The next round of primaries will be a real contest between him and Sen. Kerry.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Cuban_Liberal]

24. Regardless of who 'wins', number-wise...

The whole dynamic of this race changed tonight! :)

[The Magistrate]

29. Indeed, Sir

There are now two candidates, and perhaps a spoiler lingering on.

This is an excellent result, providing the two candidates largely compete in pressing their attacks against the criminals of the '00 Coup, and do not attempt to eviscerate one another, for the prize won by such means will prove not worth having.

Sen. Edwards has so far conducted himself like a gentleman. His "Two Americas" line is an excellent one, that will resonate widely with the people of the country, who are quite aware of the fact of it in their own lives.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Cuban_Liberal]

30. Thank you!

:)

[The Magistrate]

21. The Machine Hiccoughed

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Cuban_Liberal]

28. Kick!

Edwards in '04! :)

[Cuban_Liberal]

32. Kick

[SerpentX]

33. Edwards could do relatively well in CA under certain scenarios

In the Central Valley (aka Calabama), he could win over the Condit-type conservative dems and working class latino voters. The "Two Americas" rhetoric will go over well in these parts and Edwards has plenty of time to campaign here and let people get to know him. Unlike Kerry, Valley voters won't mistake him for Gray Davis, which can only help.

On the other hand, Edwards is going to be crushed everywhere else in California. Fair or not, candidates from the South have an uphill battle to begin with. If no one drops out until March 2nd, the best Edwards can hope for is that Dean and Kucinich can split enough voters from Kerry in the coastal areas. Kucinich will get a significant chunk of the Bay Area vote and may actually get a delegate or two. Dean had a fair amount of support down south at one point, but who knows now.

Bottom line: If he plays it smart in the Valley and Dean stays in the race, Edwards has got a shot, albeit a long one. If Dean drops out, Kerry wins big. Either way, Edwards can pick up a lot of delegates in the Valley if he's willing to fight for them.

[spooky3]

36. interesting analysis--thanks!

[Padraig18]

35. Yep!

Tonight certainly put Kerry on the canvas for an 8-count! His nomination is NOT inevitable! :D

[Padraig18]

37. Kick for Sen. Edwards

:)

[Lexingtonian]

38. No

Wisconsin: Kerry 39, Edwards 35, Dean 18
Iowa: Kerry 38, Edwards 32, Dean 18, Gephardt 12

[jpgpenn]

39. "DOA in Wisconsin"= Your Kidding Right?

Since when does WINNING with 40% constitute DOA? OOOHH wait, I see where it might! If you are a supporter of a candidate the media is trying to pump up to make it a 2 man race.

Sorry DOA is too far fetched!

[CWebster]

40. Potentially

If more doubt is cast on Kerry and voters start to take a second look and see the liabilities.

Kerry has that military thing going, but after he played that card, what's he got? He is not a convincing populist when it comes to small town issues.