Hillary to Bush: "Stop Lying Mr. President"

[SaveElmer]

Hillary In New Letter To Bush: Stop Lying, Mr. President
By Greg Sargent - September 12, 2007, 11:57AM

We've just obtained a copy of a new letter that Hillary's mailing out to Bush, a kind of preemptive strike ahead of his big Iraq speech tomorrow.

The short version of Hillary's letter: Stop lying.

She takes a direct shot at the notion that the President is following General Petraeus' plan, rather than the pre-designated dialback of the "surge," by announcing a pullback of 30,000 troops by next spring.

"If completed, these troop reductions would merely bring troop levels in Iraq back to the levels before you announced the `surge' in January of this year," Hillary writes.

"Mr. President, it has been nearly four and a half years since you landed on an aircraft carrier and stood before the American people under a banner tha read `Mission Accomplished," Hillary continues. "Do not repeat that mistake on Thursday night. Do not misrepresent the facts about the situation on the ground. And do not portray an unavoidable reduction in U.S. troops to pre-surge levels that would occur anyway as a marker of success. Be candid with the American people. They deserve it."

Hillary also denounces the planned pullback as "too little too late" and demands that he "greatly accelerate" the redeployment of troops.

Full text

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/_hillary_in_new_letter_to_bush_stop_lying_mr_president.php

[Deja Q]

1. She wants to help America's middle class AND all those H1B folks,

who seem to be taking middle class jobs.

Why should I believe her?

Didn't she also tell Obama not to say things prematurely, and then do the same thing herself the next day? (I don't recall the issue but it was quite an item in GD...)

[Tellurian]

15. Hillary putting Bush on the spot..

LOVE IT!

[bdamomma]

2. strong words Hillary

I hope more of your colleagues will do the same thing and also infuse some action with those words.

[Adelante]

3. Good for her nt

[Brigid]

4. Good for Hillary.

Only one problem, though -- that man can't stop lying. He's trapped ion it up to his eyeballs now, and has been for years.

[Armstead]

5. Yes, let's get out in five years instead of ten.

[rocktivity]

6. In other words, she's doing exactly what MoveOn did!

She's asking him not to say exactly what she knows damn well he's going to say anyway!

:rofl:
rocknation

[Tellurian]

16. Hillary is telling him to STOP Lying!

not asking..

[Clintonista2]

7. K&R

[rodeodance]

8. thanks mrs. clinton. --

[Colobo]

9. Check out Obama's speech! It's even better!

[Brigid]

10. Help out a lazy person . . .

Link please? :web:

[sandnsea]

24. Here

Pics, and then I've got a link and snips of my favorite parts down below.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3515692&mesg_id=3515692

[paulk]

11. glad she pointed out that the 30k reduction

would have happened anyway. We don't have the soldiers to continue past next summer without a draft.

This should be a main Democratic talking point.

[emilyg]

12. Thank you Sen. Clinton.

[calimary]

13. I still don't understand why these people can't just come out and say it:

STOP LYING, mr. pResident.

Just do it, Hillary, Obama, Dodd, Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Gravel, Kucinich, and everybody else on our side of the aisle. JUST START TELLING IT LIKE IT IS, WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT SPELLS IT OUT PLAINLY. He's LYING. Why can't we just say so? LYING. USE THE L WORD, Hillary. It won't bite you.

[Enrique]

14. your source was correct not to use quote marks

since she didn't say the words.

[Tellurian]

18. Her words cannot be interpreted to mean anything else.

"Do not misrepresent the facts about the situation on the ground. And do not portray an unavoidable reduction in U.S. troops to pre-surge levels that would occur anyway as a marker of success. Be candid with the American people. They deserve it."

[Enrique]

21. the quotes say that she used those words

the OP's source did not use quotes.

When I saw the thread title, I thought she used those exact words and looked for it in the article.

I wonder how many people who didn't read the actual story think she actually wrote to Bush, "stop lying" which is not out of the question that she might. But she didn't.

[Tellurian]

23. I believe the OP used the quotes for emphasis..

and the meaning is the same.

[fooj]

29. No it is not. You "believe" wrong.

Quotes aren't used for emphasis.

[sandnsea]

26. no she didn't

Clintons admonished Kerry not to use the word liar in 2004, after he called them the worst bunch of crooks and liars he'd ever seen. So I would be surprised if she used the word herself.

[polichick]

17. Does this mean she's ready to impeach?

The candidates can say anything they want ~ but, short of impeaching or defunding, it's just talk.

[William769]

19. When did she get the power to impeach?

:shrug:

[polichick]

20. Figures, same ol' dodge...

Has she joined those in Congress who want to move forward with impeachment?

Is she in favor of keeping further funding bills from coming to the floor for a vote?


Strong words with no action mean nothing. Senators Clinton and Obama have a chance to lead NOW with their actions in Congress.

[William769]

22. What dodge?

I want to know where she got the power to impeach.

[Tellurian]

25. Obama basically copied Hillary's letter and used it in todays speech..

"The Illinois senator added, “I think that some of the frustration you hear from some of the questioners is that we have now set the bar so low that modest improvement in what was a completely chaotic situation, to the point where now we just have the levels of intolerable violence that existed in June of 2006 is considered success, and it's not. This continues to be a disastrous foreign policy mistake."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/09/11/obama-bad-timing-for-iraq-hearings/

Hillary's Letter:

"If completed, these troop reductions would merely bring troop levels in Iraq back to the levels before you announced the `surge' in January of this year," Hillary writes."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/hillary-bush/

If Obama ever had an original idea; it would die of loneliness.

[sandnsea]

27. Yeah, Zbig copied Hillary, rotflmao

That's so funny I'm laughing too hard to formulate words...

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[Tellurian]

28. Zbig did the talking for Obama?

when is Obama gonna be so Big? At least as BIG as Hillary?

[William769]

30. "when is Obama gonna be so Big? At least as BIG as Hillary?"

When pigs fly?