MRS EDWARDS steps up. rips moveon.org

[democratsin08]

this is why i like her so much. she is a free thinker bought and paid for by no one.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0907/A_Sistah_Souljah_moment.html

Not sure it's really meant that way, but in any case, Elizabeth Edwards makes hers the first campaign to directly criticize MoveOn.org's "General Betray Us" ad, breaking with the Democrats' strategy of, basically, ignoring it.

“Someone who’s spent their life in the military doesn’t deserve ‘General Betray Us,’” said Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. I love EE...

...but, :popcorn:

Ya know it's coming.;)

[democratsin08]

6. she spoke the truth

she is the greatest.

[Cooley Hurd]

10. There's a divergence of opinion on this...

That's all I'm saying...;)

[movonne]

22. I'm and Edwards supporter, but I do not agree with Elizabeth and I

think this is the first time I have.

[daninthemoon]

8. LOL. Duck and cover.

[againes654]

2. Ok, if that is your opinion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1808630

[tridim]

3. Does she not understand that Patreaus is a proven liar and an "ass kissing chickenshit"?

Disappointing.

[jenmito]

4. If that general becomes a mouthpiece for the WH instead of telling the truth

he DOES deserve it. He's continuing the deaths of our troops and their citizens.

[Totally Committed]

5. She is very valuable to the Edwards Campaign in that way...

she says the things that John can't, and still remain viable with the voters to whom he's trying to connect.

On the other hand, with some, this is seen as a stab at trying to bring in votes from both sides of the Party, which could be seen as cynical and disingeuous.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

TC

[democratsin08]

7. she is cool

this had to be said. moveon went way over the line.

[FiveGoodMen]

15. BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

[Totally Committed]

16. I disagree.

I stand behind MoveOn in this case.

But, Mrs. Edwards is like a fine stealth weapon for that campaign, and she's good at it. She's a smart cookie.

TC

[creeksneakers2]

45. She joined into the right wing spin

General Betray Us got his name because he betrayed the public trust. The right wing wants to fool people into thinking that MoveOn.org called the general a traitor, as in helping the enemy. Elizabeth is helping the right wing confuse the two. She's also helping the right wing take the focus off the veracity of the general's testimony and on to a silly sidetrack about what MoveOn.org said.

Husbands and wives are not candidates. If they want to play a role in campaigns then the candidates ought to stand behind what their spouses say. None of this he said / she said talk. Let's hear Edwards back his wife up.

MoveOn.org was absolutely correct about Petraeus and they deserve support.

[Clintonista2]

9. Can't Edwards campaign on his own?

:eyes:

[democratsin08]

13. thats why i dont support john edwards

his wife is the one who should be running.

[Danieljay]

26. Oh, and you don't think Hillary is riding on the coat-tails of the Big Dog?

Right.

[Clintonista2]

28. I think you missed the intentional irony of my post

:eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

54. Since when does any candidate "campaign on their own"

There are always a bunch of people campaigning.

[DURHAM D]

11. Ouch - Elizabeth makes "hers" the first campaign.

Not John's campaign but her campaign...

[madfloridian]

12. I emailed the campaign that the MoveOn ad was powerful.

None of our Democrats should have criticized it.

Sounds like all of them are just politically playing games now.

Just as well we won't vote in the primary.

[atreides1]

14. Free thinking is a great thing.

“Someone who’s spent their life in the military doesn’t deserve ‘General Betray Us,’” said Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards.

What General Petreaus deserves or doesn't deserve isn't up to her! Just because someone has served in the military doesn't give them carte blanche for respect!

Take John McCain as an example

How many here, myself included, once respected this man? But he went from "Maverick" to merry go round pony just because of his obssession to become president. I no longer have any respect for him,
the only thing I have for him is sympathy, the sympathy that one has for a pathetic delusional man
who won't open his eyes to reality.

[Lasher]

43. See, that's the thing right there

As a matter of fact, I served in the military myself. Honorable discharge right here. Now respect me and don't ever criticize anything I say. If someone else is critical of me, condemn them.

My brother spent his life as an educator. Respect him too. Everything he says is right. Now toe the line.

[Milo_Bloom]

17. Too bad she isn't running .

I would vote for her in a moment, but wouldn't consider voting for her husband.

[IndyOp]

18. I like that Elizabeth is speaking her truth. My truth is that MoveOn was on target.

She is either being very honest - which may hurt John with MoveOn supporters

-or-

She is working to gain/keep the favor of more conservative Dems who don't see that * and his ilk -- including members of the military who are keeping their soldier's lives on the line by telling lies - are war criminals.

Either way, I think her response is reasonable.

[Larkspur]

19. I like Liz Edwards but disagree with her on this

Pretraeus is a modern day Benedict Arnold. He will sell his soul and the welfare of this nation for power. He's already a proven boot licker.

[AtomicKitten]

20. The GOP whined and some Democrats acquiesced.

Democrats must not allow the GOP to brow-beat them.

[lligrd]

31. Exactly! Nothing To Be Proud Of Here. nt

[doublethink]

21. Good For Her !!!!!

We all have a right/responsibility/ and as Americans can agree to disagree on many subjects such as this one. Personally I disagree withe Elizabeth on this one .......

When the REPUBLICANS can step up and APOLOGIZE for ........

1. Swift boating John Kerry.
2. The Freaking Purple Heart Band-Aids. (A slap in the face to all wounded Veterans who served)
3. Questioning Max Clelands Patriotism.
5. Stop blaming everything that's happened on Bush's watch in our Country on 'Clinton'
6. Just about everything thats come out of the mouths of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O'riley, Michelle Maulkin and Shaun Hannity.
7. I'll let DU come up with more. This is a contrived Right Wing Republican Talking Point AND STRAIGHT FROM THEIR HYPOCRITICAL PLAYBOOK ... apologize my ass. Read what Moveon.orgs Betrayus ad had to say, yea attack the messenger .... how juvenile. Read the freaking ad and tell me it doesn't speak the TRUTH.
8.9.10.11.12. ....... Too funny.

but you know what .... let this story play out, let it stay out there in the media, the more it's talked about the more the Republican Hypocritical line of thinking is brought to light. Keep posting, Peace. :hi:

[ShortnFiery]

23. Oh perfect, the source is politico.com

:eyes:

[Capn Sunshine]

24. yes.. Politico, who echoes Drudge and Rush

then they quote Politico and perpetuate the bs. Time honored rw tactic.

[Shrek]

25. A local paper in Des Moines is reporting the same thing

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070914/NEWS/70914014/1001

[gateley]

27. Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos was on one of "the shows" and asked about

his reaction to the response the ad was receiving. He essentially said the uproar was absurd -- that all this energy was being expended on an AD, when there are so many vital things we should be focusing on. He's right -- we've allowed ourselves to get sidetracked again.

[maximusveritas]

35. I think that's the right response: Sure, the ad was bad, but let's focus on what's important

The Republicans are trying to use a stupid ad to divert attention from their failure in Iraq.

[SaveElmer]

29. On this issue...she is right on target...nt

[democratsin08]

38. i agree with you

huge mistake by moveon.org

[mdmc]

30. she should have ignored it, but

if Edwards beats HRC, then I owe her a coke.

[FrenchieCat]

32. Making Move-On.org seem out of line is playing into GOP hands......

All generals are not equal. This one was doing PR tricks for his master. He was called out on it by a group who is independent of the DNC, the Democratic party, etc....

To chastise them was not required. The media is the one following GOP order on making a big stink, and anyone who falls for this trap is not thinking straight.

[Progressive Friend]

33. Petraeus out of step with US top brass

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/II14Ak02.html

Read that link, it makes this latest defense of a neocon general look all the worse.

[jgraz]

34. Disappointing...

I understand why she did this, but after Petraeus' lying performance before Congress he should be condemned, not defended.

[Cameron27]

36. She didn't have to say anything,

if no one asked her, why not let the issue die?

[calteacherguy]

37. Good for her! I applaud her for this!

K&R

[saracat]

39. Elizabeth rocks! She says it the way it is! Thank you fo Elizabeth for demonstrating

that one can oppose a position without losing your sense of respect for yourself as well as others!

[BeFree]

51. but...

We have been betrayed. That's the truth. Move On Rocks!

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. In my opinion she is wrong on this one

sorry....

But we still live in a free country... don't know for how long

[Downtown Hound]

41. A life of service in the military

does not excuse lying to, misleading, and yes, betraying the American public. A big thumbs down to Elizabeth for this one.

[sandnsea]

42. Did she rip Boehner?

Otherwise she is letting them set the debate again, which is why we lose. They ought to be outraged that the Minority Leader dismisses the sacrifice of our troops while Republicans are busy spinning a rather mundane comment, in the scheme of things.

[Hieronymus]

44. She didn't rip Move-On, she disapproved of the ad .. big difference.

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. Just like today's amendment in the Senate?

:shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

61. Yep.....kinda of like that......

[MadHound]

46. No Elizabeth they don't. But if that person lies about what is really going on

All to protect his boss, putting the lives of those he commands and the lives of innocents at risk for this purpose, then being labeled as a betrayer is the least that he deserves. But then again Elizabeth, you might be a bit biased in this case, since your husband did indeed help enable this illegal, immoral war.

[donsu]

47. Elizabeth must have had a mental moment in order to diss MoveOn

Elizabeth should be dissing the traitor General

[saracat]

52. So one has to be crazy to disapprove of the method chosen by Moveon?

She doesn't disagree with the meassage so much as the "how" it was crafted.She has no obligation to like it.

[donsu]

55. mental moment doesn't mean crazy

nt

[xchrom]

48. r-i-i-g-h-t -- it's not the ambitious man -- the guy who

copied damn near word for word several of bushes speeches -- and made up figures to suit himself and bush re: iraq -- it's moveon that's the problem.

[knight_of_the_star]

49. I do agree to a point

While I think the message of the ad was right on target, the real problem I have with it is that you are using language that is likely to turn people off, not get them to see the truth. Its one thing to call Petraeus on his lies, its another to add name-calling to the mix that really isn't necessary and is kind of juvenile.

[saracat]

53. Exactly.

[beaconess]

57. bingo!

[roguevalley]

50. a general must protect his troops and if he lies, he deserves that and worse.

no, I don't agree at all with her. I love her dearly but not this. My cousin is in Iraq. I don't agree because Betrayus is selling her out.

[Vickers]

56. “Someone who’s spent their life in the military doesn’t deserve ‘General Betray Us,’”

That's fucking ridiculous.

[Maribelle]

58. Betray: go against promise: to act in a way that is contrary to a promise made

Dear Elizabeth,

Sorry, but what the generals Powell and Petraeus did to the American people trumps what kind of words career military don't deserve.

[FrenchieCat]

59. Kicking for relevance!

:kick: