ShaneGR
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:10 PM
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30% of Wiscon voters Independents, 10% were Republicans |
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So I'd like to apologize for our candidate having crossover appeal. God forbid we might want to have a candidate who has crossover appeal.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:11 PM
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1. How often does a candidate get 10% crossover in the GE? |
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I'd like to see stats on that.
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ShaneGR
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:12 PM
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:18 PM
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Those republicans who voted for Edwards will vote for Bush in the General election
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:22 PM
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12. Those people are dissatisfied republicans |
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People don't go to polls for primary elections unless they care about the vote. This is great news for Edwards, and the movement is growing with plenty of votes to be cast!
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:22 PM
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13. I'm not fooled one bit |
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I think crossover tends to be around 5%. But with Bush who knows?
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:12 PM
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2. Who do you think that 10% will be voting for come November? n/t |
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:13 PM
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:14 PM
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6. 10% were Republicans...n/t |
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:18 PM
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8. Of course, you are ignoring the point |
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We need a candidate with strong appeal to independents. Edwards won the vast majority of indepents tonight.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:19 PM
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The people in North Carolina cannot stand him, and I think that has to be looked at closely
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Wed Feb-18-04 02:58 AM
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21. This is not true at all |
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Are you from North Carolina? Have you ever even been inside its borders?
I didn't think so.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:25 PM
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14. Edwards, if he's the nominee |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:29 PM by amandabeech
There are a lot of really PO'd moderate Repugs out there who are:
1. NOT Christian right cultural conservatives;
2. Want some fiscal responsibility; and
3. Want to get out of Iraq gracefully, and not just to go on another overseas adventure on dubious intelligence.
I'm originally from Michigan, a neighboring state. Outside the Grand Rapids area (home of Amway), there are quite a few moderate Repugs. I expect that Wisconsin has even more of them, from what I know of Wisconsin (Radio, TV, summer spent working in Milwaukee).
Maybe there are some in Illinois, too.
Amanda
Edit: typo
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:14 PM
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5. its the jobs,stupid.My Theory they voted for edwards because |
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he says hes against NAFTA
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:15 PM
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7. Agreed--JRE got more of the Independent vote and... |
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that's what it's going to take to win the general election.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:21 PM
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11. Crossover appeal? Check the stats |
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Of those 17% who are satisfied and even enthusiastic about the Bush admin, 86% of them voted for Edwards. If they're so enthusiastic, why would they be looking to cross over? http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/WI/index.html
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:25 PM
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15. You are talking about 17% of 30% of the total ind. vote |
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So the problem is that only makes up about 5% of the total vote. What about the other independents who dislike Bush? Why don't you post that #?
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:31 PM
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16. When there is only a 5% difference between 1st and 2nd... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:44 PM by Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak
I'd say 17% counts for something.
On Edit: I posted the link, so all the numbers are there. I commented on part of it, but I did not intentially leave out any information, should someone choose to pick a point of interest, open to debate.
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ShaneGR
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:34 PM
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17. It's called math, lets learn together |
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Try it really quickly.
30% of the voters were indepents.
17% of the independents were in favor of Bush.
So 17% of 30% equals a little over 5% of the total vote. I would be willing to bet you that Edwards didn't get 100% of those votes. So the difference was minimal at best.
Have a good night, so much for just congratulating us for a hard-fought and clean campaign in Wisconsin.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:37 PM
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19. Meerly posting a link with observations |
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Here's some more math
More Important to your vote: Can Beat Bush
Edwards 28%, Kerry 59%
No qualms with Edwards. I meerly stated my personal observation of an interesting voting trend. Edwards runs a clean campaign, and deserves every vote he gets - from Dems who want Bush out of the house.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:35 PM
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18. Since you asked so nicely... |
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Angry with Bush Admininstration: 28% Edwards, 43% Kerry Dissatisfied with * Admin: 37% Edwards, 44% Kerry
Oh, and here is one more: "Can Beat Bush More Important to your vote" 28% Edwards, 59% Kerry Ability to Beat Bush as #1 Priority
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:49 PM
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20. Does it really make sense |
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to let your political opponents have a vote in who your candidate is? Independents are one thing but Repugs?
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