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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:12 AM
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How long are you giving Al Gore?
til you figure he isn't going to run and throw your support to another?
I think I've lost hope that he's getting in. I wish he'd just make the Sherman statement already if he's not, though
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:14 AM
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1. Al can do what he wants and it's fine with me. He'll do what he'll do with
good reason.

He's a good man.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:15 AM
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2. There's still time, but it seems harder and harder to envision
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:15 AM
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3. til the end of time if he wants/needs it
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:17 AM
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4. I mean for '08, not life
Whatever the decision, I'll stand by the guy, and he has my support in whatever he does.
But I feel like I need to get involved with a campaign sooner rather than later.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:23 AM
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8. I would jump on a Gore campaign like stink on a monkey.
Of the choices before us currently, I choose Obama.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 08:39 AM
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26. Me, too. Except right now I am undecided.
I was supporting Edwards, but have had too many questions brought up lately that I had a hard time answering.

At some point, when you are having to cut mental backflips to support somebody, you figure out maybe you are on the wrong team. I don't have anything AGAINST Edwards, I just don't feel the same way I did a few months ago.

So now it is going to be Gore, Clinton or Obama. With the last two, I see both pros and cons. I guess I am going to wait until it gets right down to it and see where I am.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:17 AM
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5. I am giving Gore until he dies ....
Then, unless he is a glorious glowing being, he wont be available for holding political office .....

I think the more salient question is: What are YOU waiting for ? ..... he has said MANY MANY times that he is NOT running ........ Take his word on that for what it's worth ..... Im pretty sure he meant it .... and if he changes his mind ? : Act pleasantly surprised ..... Vote for him, if you wish .....

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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:23 AM
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7. I guess I'm waiting for a naive hope to come true
and the fact that he hasn't definitively ruled it out keeps that going
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:20 AM
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6. ~*~
i am writing his name in for my primary --
if he has not thrown his hat in ... after that...

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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:27 AM
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9. it aint over til the Dem Convention. nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:31 AM
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10. After he announces that he'll endorse a candidate before the primaires end...oh wait.
:eyes:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 01:28 AM
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11. I Wanted Al to Run
but I seriously doubt he's going to. Even if he did, his chances of winning are going down by the week.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:09 AM
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19. "going down by the week?" How you figure? nt
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:21 PM
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21. It's Hard to Imagine Gore Planning to Run Now
after passing up support, contributions, publicity -- everything that's required to win. It's difficult to look at all of Gore's public appearances and statements this year and see them as a person preparing to launch a late presidential bid.

Despite Gore's popularity on DU, he is not the overwhelming favorite among all party members. If he entered now, I think he would have a difficult time winning. It's too bad, because he is clearly the best candidate.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 08:28 AM
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24. You think he's passed up support, contributions and...
publicity? (That last one especially strikes me as highlylarious!!) :rofl:

Sorry... I'm not laughing at you, just in your general vicinity.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:11 AM
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27. What He's Passed Up Are
opportunities to present himself in the public eye as a presidential candidate. He is getting tons of publicity as an environmental crusader, which helps him with certain voters but works against him with others. If Gore were running, he could have used those opportunities to political advantage, but he hasn't.

Meanwhile, the announced candidates are in the media every day. The field is defined, supporters, donors, volunteers, and endorsements are being locked up.

Gore is simply not publicizing himself with an eye towards the presidency. Quite the contrary.

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:06 AM
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12. Draft Gore!
Who else is there, really?
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 03:46 AM
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13. Till Labor Day, nt
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:22 AM
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14. November 5th
Because Sunday, November 4th is exactly one year out from the election.

I think Al Gore could enter the race on November 4th and go on to win New Hampshire. Then everything becomes possible.

But if I wake up on November 5th and Al has not yet jumped in, then I will probably start working for John Edwards. He is probably the best of the current candidates when it comes to the environment. Not to mention other issues like poverty and fair taxes. Plus I love his wife! B-)


THE LAST TEMPTATION OF AL GORE
By Eric Pooley
TIME Magazine -- May 17, 2007

Let's say you were dreaming up the perfect stealth candidate for 2008, a Democrat who could step into the presidential race when the party confronts its inevitable doubts about the front runners. You would want a candidate with the grass-roots appeal of Barack Obama -- someone with a message that transcends politics, someone who spoke out loud and clear and early against the war in Iraq. But you would also want a candidate with the operational toughness of Hillary Clinton -- someone with experience and credibility on the world stage.
In other words, you would want someone like Al Gore -- the improbably charismatic, Academy Award-winning, Nobel Prize-nominated environmental prophet with an army of followers and huge reserves of political and cultural capital at his command.
...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1622597,00.html



Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

Visit www.americaforgore.org and send your two cents to Al!

:kick:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:52 AM
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15. I've reconciled myself to the fact he isn't going to run.
Which sucks because he would be our best candidate if he did.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:59 AM
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16. I'm giving him till the 1st part of December before he endorses Hillary. NT
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 09:23 AM
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17. I think Gore is more likely to endorse Edwards
Here's what Gore said to Larry King on CNN (May 22nd):

Gore on Hillary Clinton:
"She is running a very forceful campaign. She has earned the strong support of her constituents in New York."

Gore on Barack Obama:
"He is also running a very strong campaign. I think that he is appealing to a lot of people who like the sense that he's talking about issues in a fresh way. And, you know, he has a lot of support."

Gore on John Edwards:
"Likewise, running a strong campaign. Put out a lot of very thoughtful policy statements and positions. I think you can see the strength that he's gained from having been around the track last time."


My feeling is that if he doesn't run himself, then Al Gore is most likely to endorse John Edwards.

The League of Conservation Voters has described Edwards' plan as the "most comprehensive global warming plan of any presidential candidate to date."

:kick:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:00 AM
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18. Until the very last moment -
I'll stay undecided until I have to choose a candidate at caucus.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:20 AM
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20. As in when would I conclude it ain't happening? About 3 weeks
I am a contrarian about the role winning the Nobel Peace Prize could play in Al Gore's Presidential ambitions. As I explained in this post...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3529453&mesg_id=3529688

... if he wins it on October 12th it will be then be too late for him to, on the immediate heels of that, launch a Presidential campaign. I know a lot of Gore's supporters think it is just the opposite, an honest disagreement. If Gore is already in the race before the prize is awarded however, it would be a great asset to his campaign. I suppose if Al Gore does not win the Prize he might have the rest of October to decide. If Gore wins the Peace Prize it would re-invigerate his world wide efforts to stop Global Warming and he would immediately be in demand to speak all over the world as a global leader, not as a partisan American politician. I think Gore would take the global option.

Once I thought Al might side step the primaries and remain available as a unity candidate if the primary votes were too splintered. Now I think Hillary has it in the bag unless Al Gore does enter the race, which still would have the potential to shake it up.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 08:35 AM
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25. "Hillary has it in the bag"??
Tom - don't let yourself be dazzled by the bright light of Clark's endorsement!

This time in 2003, many folks were saying that Howard Dean had it in the bag.

But then when January came around, the caucus-goers of Iowa decided differently.

The rest is history (but not a very happy ending to that particular story).

Gore will wait until the best possible moment to make his announcement.

If he decides to endorse Edwards, he will do it in a way that has the greatest impact on the race.

There is no way that anyone can predict now the outcome of the Iowa caucuses.

But if Edwards wins Iowa, it will change the whole dynamics of the 2008 race.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:59 AM
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31. Not because of Clark's endorsement
I've felt for at least two months now that only Clark or Gore could stop Hillary. Before that I thought Obama or Edwards had a chance also, but like I said, I haven't thought so for about two months. Edwards winning Iowa,especially if narrowly, keeps him in the race but it is not the same as last time when Edwards came out of nowhere to outperform in Iowa. This time Edwards has been the Iowa favorite for at least two years. That puts him in a position like Gephardt was in in 2004. Edwards virtually HAS to win Iowa to not underperform. Had Gephardt won Iowa in 2004 he would have had a chance, but he still would not have been a favorite.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:42 AM
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32. You're full of shit
The most any front runner got in '03 was 22%, which Dean had in December.

HRC is polling at around 40%, if not higher.

'08 will be nothing like '04.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:26 PM
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22. Here's how I'm working it: Dennis Kucinich has my support for the primaries
UNLESS Gore gets in in enough time to stop HRC. I would support ANY CANDIDATE whose numbers reflect the possibility of stopping her (unless he or she is DLC, which is highly unlikely). If that does not happen, I still have the very wonderful, totally awesome Dennis Kucinich to ovote for in the primaries.

Al Gore could get in the day before the election, and if it looked like he could do the HRC camapign enough damage to derail it, Id be onboard.

TC

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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:33 PM
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23. October 26th
He can't announce until after October 12th (the Nobel Peace Prize award, lest the prize become about Al Gore the CANDIDATE).

As another DUer pointed out, you don't want to use the peace prize as a springboard, so he needs to be put a little distance between winning that prize and any announcement.

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:42 PM
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29. Funny, same date I picked.
I look at it this way. The Nobel institute isn't going to give the award to an actively campaigning politician because doing so would look like political meddling. For an organization that touts itself as a neutral arbiter of science and peace, any action that could be interpreted as political interference would be a major problem. Therefore, if Al Gore announces his candidacy prior to the Nobel announcements, he will effectively disqualify himself for the prize. Since the award would be a major asset both to his international credibility and to voters at home who are sick of war, he probably doesn't want to do that.

I will give him a couple of weeks after the Nobel announcements to get a campaign in gear. If he doesn't have it together by the end of October, I'll give up on the dream.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:22 AM
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28. As much time as he needs.
I would like to see him on the primary ballots.

I had thought that one of the other candidates would stand out and I would know which one to switch to if/when Gore chooses to not run. None are standing out for me so far folks. I am now thinking of just writing Al Gore's name on my primary ballot.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:43 PM
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30. As long as it takes. NT
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