Clinton's health care=big pay day for HMOs & Insurance companies

[Botany]

So we will have to buy health insurance from the comapnies that have
been giving money to Hillary?

We need single payer NATIONAL HEALTH INSURNACE. We do not need
to prop up the very companies that have been screwing us with "pre - existing
conditions" and for profit health care.

[TechBear_Seattle]

1. K & R n/t

[NightWatcher]

2. how much has been 'donated' to her campaign by big pharma

no seriously, where can I find out who donates how much to who.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. Federal Election Commission

http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapApp.do

Select a candidate from the list, then click on the "Current Presidential Filings" in the lower left to get details.

[daninthemoon]

4. Is that right? her plan is to fund the private hmo's? anyone have

any details on that?

[Tellurian]

15. Read here..

AMERICAN HEALTH CHOICES PLAN

Hillary's American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.

It puts the consumer in the driver's seat by offering more choices and lowering costs. If you're one of the tens of million Americans without coverage or if you don't like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and that coverage will be affordable. Of course, if you like the plan you have, you can keep it.


* Affordable: Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.

* Available: No discrimination. The insurance companies can't deny you coverage if you have a pre-existing condition.

* Reliable: It's portable. If you change or lose your job, you keep your health care.


IT'S YOUR CHOICE:
If you have a plan you like, you keep it. If you want to change plans or aren't currently covered, you can choose from dozens of the same plans available to members of Congress, or you can opt into a public plan option like Medicare. And working families will get tax credits to help pay their premiums.

IT'S GOOD FOR SMALL BUSINESSES:
Small businesses are the engine of new job growth in the U.S. economy but face bigger challenges when it comes to providing health care for their employees. Hillary would give tax credits to small businesses that provide health care to their workers to help defray their coverage costs. This will make small businesses more competitive and help create good jobs with health benefits that will stay here in the US.

REINS IN INSURANCE COMPANIES
Insurance companies won't be able to deny you coverage or drop you because their computer model says you're not worth it. They will have to offer and renew coverage to anyone who applies and pays their premium. And like other things that you buy, they will have to compete for your business based on quality and price. Families will have the security of knowing that if they become ill or lose their jobs, they won't lose their coverage.

HILLARY CAN GET IT DONE
Nobody has worked harder or longer to improve health care than Hillary Clinton. From her time in Arkansas when she improved rural health care to her successful effort to create the SCHIP Children's Health Insurance program which now covers six million children, Hillary has the strength and experience to ensure that every man, woman and child in America has quality, affordable health care.


http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/?sc=1353&utm_source=1353&utm_medium=

[Botany]

18. but will the companies that have been giving Clinton money if we use

her plan stand to make vast sums of money?
And if so does that not bring up a conflict of interest?

[Tellurian]

20. There are many plans to choose from...

My feeling is corporations are going to be put on notice after the elections and we have a substantive Demo majority. Where we'll have a Congress and President working together to roll back Insurance Companys to benefit not corporate profits but doing business in the interests of the American People.

If I haven't sufficiently answered your question please sign up at:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/?sc=1353&utm_source=1353&utm_medium=

[madrchsod]

16. you`ll have to read the fine print in these plans

the only way is to provide universal health care. insurance companies will have to adapt the the product they sell and the coverage they provide. there is a huge market for insurance to cover expensives such as "aflac" covers..i certainly could have used this kind of insurance in the last few years..short term disability insurance does`t pay the bills

[leftchick]

5. exactly

it does not address the underlying issue of Healthcare as industry for Profit. As Michael Moore's movie sicko proves, just because you have health insurance doesn't mean you get coverage.

[mod mom]

6. I agree. They have been screwing Americans for a long time-just think of SICKO.

HRC can take her corporate sponsorer's agenda elsewhere. We need to change the system NOT prop up the wealthest 1%. The time for a populist agenda is now-corporatism is sooooo * administration.

[Botany]

9. look @ how hard they are trying to kill Edwards

[mod mom]

12. They detest his populist message. Edwards: we the people... Clinton: we the

corporate elistists.

[Double T]

7. Correct! HRC's first priority is always 'the corporations' and it will be.........

health care as usual with ever increasing rates. Single payer, less the profiteering HMOs, is the economical solution.

[JDPriestly]

8. Yes. And the idiots on Fox News were opining that Hillary would be bad for Wall Street.

I think her plan sucks. I think it may be unconstitutional to "require" people to get health insurance from private companies (from my billfold to the CEO of your company, no thanks). But, it certainly won't be bad for the bank accounts of the health care magnates. Her plan is a sop to her corporate donors. Nothing more. It will do nothing to alleviate the costs of healthcare for ordinary Americans who can barely stretch their meager paychecks to cover the necessities for themselves and their families.

Her tax breaks aren't much more help than private healthcare savings accounts. Same flaw.

Hillary talks a lot about helping ordinary people. But she has been rich so long, she has no idea what the problems of poor people are.

In contrast, following the 2004 election, John Edwards, who is also rich and who could also hide in gated key heaven if he wished to, set out to study the problems of the poor. And at least he can clearly remember what it was like to grow up working class. Hillary never even knew that in her bank father's family. Bill Clinton is the real deal. Hillary is a corporate clone. The sooner people realize that, the better.

[mod mom]

10. Reverse psychology.

they believe if they diss her then Dems will vote her as the Dem candidate-which they want.

[JDPriestly]

11. They did not just diss her. They were equal opportunity dissing.

It is on Raw Story.

[jwirr]

13. Business as usual.

[madrchsod]

14. no fuck`n shit

she failed the first time and she brings back the same shit again. no wonder the insurance industry loves her ass she is money in the bank. is there anyone that gives a fuck about the people in this country? the great unwashed do not have enough money to afford hillary's health care plan or what ever this pile of shit is called



there just is`t any hope things are going to change

[AJH032]

17. Well if I'm sick, I just want to be healthy.

Why does it matter who's providing the insurance?

Means over ends?

[Double T]

19. It has more to do with the ever escalating costs of health care.........

which HRC's plan doesn't address. If you think wall street and the HMOs are going to hold the line on your health care costs along with your contributions, which now total at least 16% of the GDP, guess again. Single payer health care without HMOs will save substantial cost savings if it is run properly.

[lyonn]

21. Yup, the cost of health care is outrageous

So many of the plans don't seem to deal with the issue, or, I don't understand the process. It is complicated. Get rid of the paper work will cut some of the cost. The health care society are making the rules. Too bad if we can't afford them. People lose their homes over this issue.

That dandy prescription drug plan george dreamed up is for the big pharmies. We don't need to repeat this in the area of health care.

[OhioChick]

22. K&R

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