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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:25 PM
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"Turning the corner" again, "success on the ground" again, and Dems don't have 60 votes again.
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 07:27 PM by Sparkly
Great News! We're turning the corner in Iraq (again)!

"The idea of winning the war in Iraq is beginning to get a second look," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who led opposition to the bill alongside Sen. John McCain.

(snip)

"We have a new strategy. We have success on the ground," said McCain. Pulling out troops would spark "chaos and genocide in the region, and we will be back," he said.


Of course, it's been years of "second looks" and "new strategies" and "success on the ground" -- oh yeah, and years of "chaos," too.

But we have to think of national security!

Webb and his supporters say the bill provides flexibility to avoid those pitfalls, including a presidential waiver if Bush can certify to Congress that ignoring the limitation was necessary to national security.


Since none of this has anything to do with national security, we can understand why they don't want that!

And before we jump on the Democrats again, let's see who we really have to thank for stopping an effort to stop the madness:

Of the 56 senators voting to advance the measure were 49 Democrats, six Republicans and Vermont Independent Bernard Sanders. Voting against it were 43 Republicans and Connecticut Independent Joseph Lieberman.


Edit for link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070919/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:28 PM
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1. The Democrats FINALLY got the Republicans on record about something.
This will be a huge help in the upcoming elections, and is the reason why the "Why fight? We don't have the votes" threads really drive me bonkers.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:36 PM
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3. Seems like Reid is really going to move in that direction....
No more even TRYing to compromise with the GOP asshats. Apparently he's going to put forward some full-strength anti-war measures, knowing they'll be defeated. It's all sad and frustrating.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:28 PM
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2. Circles
The wheels on the bus go round and round......
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:42 PM
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4. The Republicans own this war.
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