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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:52 PM
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Move On hitting back.
Dear MoveOn Member,

The U.S. Senate just told you to sit down and be quiet when they passed a Republican amendment condemning MoveOn.1

Every day, our brave men and women are dying in a bloody civil war this Senate has done nothing to stop. Yesterday, they couldn't even pass a bill to give soldiers adequate leave with their families before redeploying.2 But they're spending time cracking down on a newspaper ad?

So, we're making clear where America stands. We're releasing a statement from MoveOn members—and anyone else who feels the same way—saying, "We will not be quiet, will fight back. We will keep speaking out until Congress forces an exit plan for this awful war."

Clicking here will add your name:

http://pol.moveon.org/fightback/o.pl?id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=3

Maybe you liked our General Petraeus ad.3 Maybe you thought the language went too far. But make no mistake: this is much bigger than one ad.

It's part of a larger campaign by Fox, the right-wing echo chamber, and Republicans like John McCain (who said we should be "thrown out of the country").4

They're doing it because they're hurting: Polls show last week's Bush Administration PR blitz increased the number of Americans favoring withdrawal5 and vulnerable Republicans are sinking lower and lower in the polls (or announcing their retirement).

And it has one purpose: to intimidate all of us. To send a message that anyone who speaks unpleasant truths about this war will pay. To make everyone—especially politicians—think twice before they accuse the administration of lying.

If it looks like we're on the run, people will think twice before they speak out. Will you send a message today to Dick Cheney, Fox, Bill O'Reilly, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Karl Rove—and the Democrats without the guts to vote against this—that it's not working?

We've changed our home page to just run the names of people who sign on. We'll report the totals to the media all day. And if we can find an electronic billboard in Washington, D.C., we'll run the names there, too.

And after you add your name, you can go one step further. We've put together a fair but hard-hitting ad that highlights how, yesterday, Republicans blocked a bill to give our troops adequate family leave before going back to Iraq. If we can raise enough money, we'll air this ad across the country and take the fight back to the real issues—this terrible war and its impact on our troops and the Iraqi people.

Clicking here will add your name to our statement:

http://pol.moveon.org/fightback/o.pl?id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=4

This morning, the Senate didn't pass an exit strategy for Iraq. They didn't pass a bill to cover millions of uninsured Americans or combat the climate crisis. Nope—they condemned 3.4 million Americans for speaking out against the war.

Let them know them it's not going to work.

Thank you for all you do, every day, to get the truth out.

–Eli, Aaron, Adam G., Adam R., Anna, Carrie, Daniel, Erik, Ilyse, Jennifer, Joan, Justin, Karin, Laura, Marika, Matt, Natalie, Nita, Noah, Tanya, Tom & Wes
MoveOn.org Political Action
Thursday, September 20th, 2007


PS. I will join MoveOn members tonight for a live webcast at 8:30 EST/ 5:30 PST. We'll update this situation, talk about next steps, and answer your questions. To join in, click here:

http://pol.moveon.org/fight_back_call.html?id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=5

Sources:

1. You can see the resolution text here and the roll call of who voted for it here. Absurdly, it claims that MoveOn "impugns the honor and integrity of ... all the members of the United States Armed Force"—despite the fact that MoveOn includes hundreds of thousands of veterans and military family members, who've led our campaign to bring our troops home.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2988&id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=7

2. "Effort to Shift Course in Iraq Fails in Senate," New York Times , September 19, 2007.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/washington/20cong.html?hp

3. You can read the ad text and why we ran it here:
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2987&id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=8

4. "McCain To MoveOn: Get Out," CBS News, September 14, 2007.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2973&id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=9

5. "Poll: Most Say Bush Iraq Plan Falls Short," CBS News, September 17, 2007.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2974&id=11267-1340845-wGZK8b&t=10

PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:58 PM
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1. Thanks for the link. Got to check out their webcast this evening.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:00 PM
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2. K and R
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:02 PM
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3. Now I hope every Democratic Senator
who voted with the 'thugs on this will get a copy of this from at least one of their constituents.

Repeat over and over - It's not about the ad. It's about the 'thugs playing to their base.

If we can get it, why can't supposedly Democratic Senators?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:11 PM
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4. DU's JOB? SEND MoveOn MONEY ! ! ! ! !
let's send them the message that we love them. with paper.
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:17 PM
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8. Done. n/t
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:21 PM
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27. Yes, Please do!!! Moveon.org speaks for me, may be the only one left in town...nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:11 PM
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5. Still nothing front page at Daily Kos.
:shrug:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:24 PM
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10. several threads
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:28 PM
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11. There should be a front page post devoted to this attack on free speech.
Which makes me wonder why there is not.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:13 PM
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6. Obama & Biden didn't vote on this. Hillary voted with move-on.
But there are a shit load of dems that need to be taken to the woodshed.

Moveon has the roll call vote posted. Makes me sick of what the dems have done.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:10 PM
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37. Now Hillary Has My Attention
And possibly my vote in the primary. Keep it up Hillary, there may be hope for us yet.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:08 PM
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42. Where'd you find that?
I couldn't locate it.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:15 PM
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7. Done .. n/t
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:22 PM
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9. Done.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:33 PM
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12. Isn't it worth mentioning that moveon.org isn't actually named in the bill?
I just searched the whole bill and all of its (weird-ass) amendments.

I'm glad that moveon.org is choosing to exploit this to their own benefit--that's fine--but shouldn't they mention that the bill is so gutless that they don't even identify who's supposedly doing the "impugning"?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:35 PM
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13. It does not matter. The ad was full page NYT.
There are no excuses for this. None.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:05 PM
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21. Look
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:36 PM
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29. Ok. I'll take your word for it
I could've sworn I'd covered each page of the bill as submitted, on the Senate website.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:36 PM
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14. Thanks, done and donated...nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:37 PM
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15. recommend!
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:38 PM
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16. They shouldn't have to do this. This is really disheartening
Where is Reid?? How did this shit ever even come up for a vote?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:52 PM
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17. The names who have signed are already scrolling down the page.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:55 PM
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19. Wow. That is really cool.
and somehow touching
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:01 PM
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20. Thanks for the link
Didn't see that when I signed. I got goosebumps watching the names go by next to the war weary soldier. Powerful stuff.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:54 PM
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18. signed it.
:kick:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:30 PM
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22. Done!
eom
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:31 PM
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23. Called Reid's offce. Asked how it got to the floor.
Aide said Reid voted no. I said that was not what I asked. I said who is in charge of getting votes to the floor. Silence.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:35 PM
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24. Good one....how did it get to the floor ?
And what Dems bartered for what? This is getting interesting :toast:

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:36 PM
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25. Fox News is very very very happy today.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:19 PM
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26. k&r
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:11 PM
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28. Thanks Eli and MoveOn...
Keep telling the truth ~ somebody has to!
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:58 PM
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30. K,R,Done,&Donated nt
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:45 PM
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31. Contributed $25. Fuck them all! n/t
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:47 PM
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32. the REAL Democrats stand up again
frankly, they did MoveOn a huge favor. I'll bet they made a cool million today.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:12 AM
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33. sent them a few bucks
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:14 AM
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34. We did, too.
That's twice in a week, but I think today was needed to make a statement. I hear they got tens of thousands of dollars today. No final tally yet.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:12 AM
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35. Donate a few bucks now.... www.moveon.org
www.moveon.org
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:08 PM
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36. I'm so pissed I actually donated money
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 01:09 PM by meowomon
Then I called my turncoat senator from Florida, Bill Nelson, and told his staff person to thank him for his vote because it is going to stir up a lot of money for Moveon. I have NEVER donated to a PAC before. This really pissed me off and I hope it spurs on a lot of others to donate.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:14 PM
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38. Your post inspired me to donate a bit, as well.
I was thinking of donating yesterday and got distracted by other things. Woke up this morning still royally pissed off. Just read your post and decided to join you. Clicking the donation "submit" button felt goooood. :hi:
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:21 PM
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39. Already signed and sent money (n/t)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:01 PM
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40. Done.
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 02:02 PM by calimary
I wrote in my custom message that the money I would have sent to the DCCC (Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee) and DSCC (Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee) has now been redirected to MoveOn.org - BECAUSE I ONLY BUY BACKBONES THESE DAYS.

I further said that THIS MoveOn.org supporter worked NIGHT AND DAY, ALL LAST YEAR, giving her time, her energy, her ideas, her words, her shoe leather, her blogging, AND THE CONTENTS OF HER CHECKING ACCOUNT - to help the Dems get back in power, to END THE WAR NOW, and to hold bush and the republi-CONS FULLY ACCOUNTABLE for the worst high crimes and misdemeanors this nation has ever witnessed. That the Dems have acted like weenies (AGAIN) and fallen in (AGAIN) behind the republi-CONS (AGAIN) to condemn ONE ad that asked an EXTREMELY LEGITIMATE QUESTION about general petraeus convinces me that I need to redirect my support to MoveOn.org more frequently.

And I added that - if the Dems continue to behave so spinelessly, it will be VERY fair to question whether they can stand up to bin Laden, if they can't even stand up to bush and the GOP.
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thetaoofterri Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:04 PM
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41. Both Arkansas senators voted "yes" for this amendment.
I contacted the Lincoln and Pryor offices to let them know they were WRONG!!

Also sent MoveOn my $25.00.
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