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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:43 PM
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Bush Obsessed with "Betray Us" MoveOn Ad

From RawStory

Taking questions from reporters in the White House press room Thursday morning, President Bush seemed more eager to pile on a week-and-a-half's worth of Republican attacks on a MoveOn.org ad than he was to talk about issues with actual geopolitical impact.

In fact he was so upset by the ad that went into an "extended diatribe" over it at the end of his press conference.

The president called the group's full-page New York Times ad "disgusting," and he accused Democrats of caring more about the feelings of liberal activists than the US military.

Feelings.. nothing more than feelings...

Hey Commander Prez-Guy, can our troops have a side of Body Armor and Health Care to go with this old song and dance? Pretty Puhleeze?

Here's a Short Clip from the Presser:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRhy4CqzU

Ok, ok - the real clip is here.

http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Bush_bashes_Dems_over_MoveOn_ad_0920.html

"I felt like the ad was an attack not only on General Petraeus but on the U.S. military.

Yet again, no one can say anything about any specific soldier without attacking the "ENTIRE U.S. MILITARY." It's not like they happen to be individuals or anything. What are they a multi-headed hydra joined at the hip or something? The Uni-mind? All is one - One is All. Y'know - like an Army of One!...

uh oh!

And I was disappointed that not more leaders in the Democrat party spoke out strongly against that kind of ad," Bush said. "That leads me to come to this conclusion: that most Democrats are (more) afraid of irritating a left-wing group like MoveOn.org ... than they are of irritating the United States military. That was a sorry deal."

He's upset that more Democrats didn't speak out against it? Let's see that ad was criticized by John Kerry, Joe Biden, John Edwards, Elizabeth Edwards and of course, Joe Lieberman - but who didn't speak out against it? Oh yeah - Hillary.

So this is just a pre-emptive jab a Hillary? Ok, fine - that just means Republicans are actually afraid of her. Good.

But it's interesting that when the show was on the other stage and you had people accusing someone like say - John Kerry - of being a "traitor" and giving "aid and comfort to the enemy" the President wasn't nearly so upset. Maybe that's because the President was one of the people making the accusation. (ala WaPo)

Appearing in the Rose Garden yesterday with Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, Bush said Kerry's statements about Iraq "can embolden an enemy." After Kerry criticized Allawi's speech to Congress, Vice President Cheney tore into the Democratic nominee, calling him "destructive" to the effort in Iraq and the struggle against terrorism.

As did Orin Hatch.

Democrats are "consistently saying things that I think undermine our young men and women who are serving over there."

And John Thune speaking about his then Senate rival Tom Daschle.

"His words embolden the enemy." Thune, on NBC's "Meet the Press," declined to disavow a statement by the Republican Party chairman in his state saying Daschle had brought "comfort to America's enemies."

And Dennis Hastert

Asked whether he believed al Qaeda would be more successful under a Kerry presidency, Hastert said: "That's my opinion, yes."

So did anyone on the Republican side of the aisle disavow these remarks? Did anyone at all stand up and say - "this is going too far - it's Disgusting!"? Hm, not so much.

The White House and the Bush campaign said they would neither endorse nor disavow the remarks by Hastert, Armitage and others. "Those statements speak to the great concern many people have about John Kerry's consistent vacillation under political pressure on the most significant issues the nation faces with regard to the war on terror," Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan had no quarrel with the remarks. "They are expressing their opinion," he said.

So all these Republicans were just "expressing their opinion", say like the opinion that Senator Max Clelend has now become a member of Al Qeada simply because he voted against the Patriot Act. It's not like the Patriot has been abused a few thousand times or anything.

No one on the Republican side has spoken out about these actual abuses, not just theoretically ones, real ones. But somehow Democrats are deficient if they don't toss MoveOn from the train over "General Betray Us?"

Yeah, It's not like Republicans have ever attacked General Zinni.

MOWBRAY: Discussing the Iraq war with the Washington Post last week, former General Anthony Zinni took the path chosen by so many anti-Semites: he blamed it on the Jews.

Technically, the former head of the Central Command in the Middle East didn’t say "Jews." He instead used a term that has become a new favorite for anti-Semites: "neoconservatives."

Or General Batiste

Bush on Rumsfeld Criticism: ‘No military guy is gonna tell a civilian how to react.'

Or General Eaton.

In making his point that Secretary Rumsfeld should resign, Eaton also maligned nearly all of the military's key leaders of the past four years. Eaton's attack was inaccurate, unprofessional and uncalled for. In summing up his case against the Secretary of Defense, the retired general illustrated a mindset that appears focused on issues that have already passed, rather than the problems being faced by commanders in the field today.

And guess what - Moveon didn't even invent the "Betray Us" term - the troops did as Time Online Reported way back in August.

AFTER being hailed as King David, the potential saviour of Iraq, the US commander General David Petraeus is facing a backlash in advance of his report to Congress in September on the progress of America’s troop surge.

Critics, including one recently retired general, are privately calling him "General Betraeus" on the grounds that he is too ambitious to deliver a balanced report on the war.

Lawrence Korb, a defence official under Ronald Reagan who is now at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank, said Petraeus was regarded as "the most political general since General (Douglas) Mac-Arthur".

It's also interesting to note, as John Stewart did last night in discussion with General Wesley Clark, that Petreaus actually wrote the manual on counter-insurgency for the Army, yet his current strategy in Iraq is 180 degrees from what he wrote.

Hm. Could it be that it's not really his idea? (I mean, it's not like he wrote report all by himself or anything is it?)

Possibly not if you listen to what Petreaus own commanding officer, Admiral Fallon head of CentCom, really thinks of him.

Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be "an ass-kissing little chickensh*t" and added, "I hate people like that", the sources say. That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as trying to ingratiate himself with a superior.

Might an "ass-kissing little chickenshit" toss his own long considered theories and opinions out the window in order to secure advancement and in effect BETRAY THE TROOPS in the process?

I think he might, and I think the fact that everything Petraus said contradicts the GAO, the CRS, The NIE and most recently released Pentagon Report on Iraq seems to back this up.

Democrats shouldn't be backing slowly away from Moveon.org - they should be piling on, particularly since everything Moveon.org has said about Petreaus - iS TRUE. (Psst! Just the way Republicans always do when what they're Playing the 'Traitor' Card!)

P.S. They should all take some lessons in courage from John Murtha (who has a few ribbons and medals to his credit, I think)

"I’m saying (Gen Petreaus) came back here at the White House’s request to purely make political statements," Murtha said. "That’s what I’m saying. There’s no question in my mind about it."

Vyan

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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:44 PM
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1. He's got nothing else
so of course he has to after the 'they don't support' the troops crap.

Is anyone really surprised?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:45 PM
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2. Did they let "Jeff Gannon" back in the WH press corps? WHO ASKED
that LAMEASS "question"????
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:46 PM
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3. They should have turned the debate into
A Condemnation-alooza. "As long as we're condemning THIS, maybe we should also condemn this...and this...and this...and this...and definitely THAT..."

But...no.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:49 PM
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5. Boxer tried
exactly that by tying the condemnation of MoveOn to the condemnation of the attacks on Max Cleland. It's in my link refering to the Osama-Morph.

Vyan
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:48 PM
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4. I hope Keith's Special Comment tonight bashes Bush and spanks the Dems
who voted for the censure motion against MoveOn.org.

I don't think Keith is afraid of getting censured by Congress.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:54 PM
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6. Petreaus ...strategy in Iraq is 180 degrees from what he wrote.
Petreaus actually wrote the manual on counter-insurgency for the Army, yet his current strategy in Iraq is 180 degrees from what he wrote.

Nice formatting, Vyan. Can that be done in an HTML editor?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:56 PM
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7. It's so much nicer to send the the troops to a senseless death or maiming.
Dontcha know.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:59 PM
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8. This guy was effin AWOL during Vietnam for cissakes
Now that's really showing what he thinks of the military.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:01 PM
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9. What ever happened to his obsession with get Osama Bin Laden
He was gonna git 'im. Smoke 'im outta his hole. Six years later OSL is still releasing video tapes.

What a tool.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:05 PM
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10. great compilation... k and r
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:13 PM
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11. This is fantastic news. Responding to it makes it WORSE for him. nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:35 PM
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12. probably because it got more attention that he gets
narcissistic little bastard
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:14 PM
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13. Shrub is the most vile piece of vermin and living in his own la la land.
I make it a point to avoid listening to this buffoon, and his rhetoric is as useless as he is.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:18 PM
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14. oh, blow it out yr ass, you pathetic, cowardly, lying sack of BATS**T
--sissy widdle mama's boy, too fucking cowardly, lazy, coke-addled, alcoholic, disrespectful and cluelessly helpless to even fulfill an easy goldbrick assignment during the Vietnam War, murdering more than a million innocent Iraqi citizens and countless others in your other goddam secret wars, secret prisons, secret death squads, secret coke deals, secret assassinations, black ops, torture chambers and child sex rings. Fuck you all to hell you stinking, mass murdering, disgusting, putrid piece of slimy animal shit. You are a giant fucking colossal FAILURE and THE WORLD DESPISES YOU and IS LAUGHING AT YOUR STUPID-ASS BULLSHIT, and We The People are made to look like the world's DUMBEST and Ugliest Americans because of you. You let 9/11 happen, and you let thousands of our fellow citizens drown, starve, and be used as target practice for your mercenaries in New Orleans, you evil son of a pearl-clutching fucking bitch who looks like a Mack truck crossed with a bulldog.

Go talk to yourself, madman. Go pull yr pud in the Oval Office while Jeffie does his "special dance" for you, slimeball. Without KKKarl around to suck yr d**k and dispense yr meds we all know you're about to melt down and can't wait! THE SOONER THE BETTER!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:56 PM
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15. Republicans are parasites & Bush is their leader.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 06:05 PM by baldguy
Bush is a blood-sucking worm who's screaming because he's about to be removed from him host.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:25 PM
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18. good one
& I just felt like giving this thread a kick--let the world see not only his idiocy, but also the fact that We The People are NOT "Ugly Americans" who actually believe in him, like him, respect him, or even want him around. HE WAS FORCED ON US! TWICE! REALLY!
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:54 PM
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16. WITH A NAME LIKE BUSH...
SO WE LOOK AT THE ADMINISTRATION.... BUSH.... DICK.... COLIN.......

AND WE MAKE FUN OF THEM..... P-TRAYUS B-TRAYUS

AND DO YOU KNOW WHY WE MAKE FUN OF THE GENERAL....

BECAUSE CONDI DOESN'T RHYME WITH SELF-SERVING AUNT-JEMIMA DISPICABLE CUNT...
(UNLESS YOU SAY IT REAL FAST)
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everydayis911 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:43 PM
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17. I Like the
Dave Chappelle way of pronouncing Condi's name Cunnilingus Rice. First season Dave plays a KKK member and doesn't know he's black because he's blind.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:31 PM
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19. The Rovian tactic of striking at an opponent's strong point
Bush is a juvenile, name-calling dope, who can barely remember that he's president of the country, but who seems to have a deep store of mean little tricks and nasty jokes he can play on people. Well, the Betray Us ad ticked Bush off precisely because it was a mean little trick. Nobody's supposed to do that but him! And did it get under his thin little skin, even 10 days later.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:37 PM
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20. Shh, here is a little secret
the first day in basic they get everybody in formaiton and insert the unimind model TY-90743038-2007

From that point on, it is unimind

So yes, the hive mind controls all

:sarcasm: (just in case)

On the other hand, this is a great idea for a sci fi story
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