Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:42 PM
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Freepers want to sue Hillary Clinton in order to stop her from campaigning |
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Apprently the freepers think they would have a case in suing Hillary, claiming that spouses should be legally barred from being allowed to run. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899902/posts :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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fedupfisherman
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:44 PM
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Then a real progressive will win the WH.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:47 PM
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She has voted with the democratic majority 93% of the time, and she has a more progressive voting record in the senate than Obama or Edwards (www.progressivepunch.com). Please get informed before making a fool of yourself.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:51 PM
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Someone who isn't funded by Rupert Murdoch for one. Someone who voted against the war would be nice.
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Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:52 PM
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11. How did Obama vote on that resolution? |
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Oh yea, he wasn't a member of the senate. Yet his supporters still claim he voted against it :eyes:.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:56 PM
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16. At least he didn't vote for it |
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Your candidate got duped by Bush
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Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:57 PM
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17. He didn't vote, PERIOD |
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Obama doesn't like to vote when it comes to controversial bills.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:01 PM
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19. Your candidate still got duped by Bush |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 10:08 PM by fedupfisherman
Ha!
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Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:04 PM
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20. YA!!!, my canidate SUX!!!!!!! |
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:34 PM
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27. yeah, she definitely does. she loves the war, it is making her rich, too |
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--but of course she says she was "duped"--so she is either a warmonger, or not very bright. which is it?
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:56 AM
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by two presidents and went to bat for both of them. :shrug:
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:08 PM
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31. Throw straw-man much? |
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Who here on this thread said he did?
Now, back to HRC... who DID take support from Murdoch and DID vote for the war....
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:10 PM
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22. Actually, they say he opposed it |
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which I understand he did in a speech in the Illinois senate.
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Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:13 PM
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23. Yet he admits he doesn't know how he would have voted |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 10:37 PM by Lirwin2
Directly contradicting his supporters.
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RaleighNCDUer
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:28 PM
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25. Well, he's been taking triangulation lessons from Hillary. |
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And I assume you meant to type "how HE would have voted".
He did speak against it, but as a slightly right of center moderate, about an inch and a half left of Hillary, he may well have voted on a political, rather than ideological, basis. Or not.
That's why he's not my choice for the primaries, either.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:32 PM
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26. someone whose first allegiance is NOT Insurance & Big Pharma |
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:52 PM
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13. Maybe you would be happier over there with them |
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You can spew hate uninterrupted 24/7.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:54 PM
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talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:04 PM
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21. Go ahead and talk about it. Do tell |
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:14 AM
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37. the post is pretty explanatory |
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Fri Sep-21-07 06:00 AM
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40. Indeed it is.Ye ol hackneyed do enjoy triteness |
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:19 PM
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:13 AM
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51. How About Letting The People Decide? |
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:44 PM
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2. She's not my first choice, but imagine the exploding heads over at that well known hate site... |
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...the day she is elected.
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Fri Sep-21-07 04:51 PM
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In fact, she's my second to last choice, ahead of Kucinich. But the thought of the heads blowing up at FR and watching the meltdowns of some of these smug little prick young conservatives I know would be truly epic.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:45 PM
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3. If Al was in, they 'd have a weight limit. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:45 PM
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I thought that she was their chosen democratic nominee!
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:47 PM
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6. lol ..........So mch for that soliloquy |
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:49 PM
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7. Well then, how about all members of the family... |
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sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, wives, husbands.......
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:49 PM
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8. They are a pathetic bunch. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:51 PM
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10. Are they going to sue Elizabeth and Michele too? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 09:52 PM by Auntie Bush
I can't believe there are so many stupid Rethugs in this country. I haven't met a smart one yet...and never will.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:52 PM
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12. I bet if a person wanted they could pick up some great comedy material |
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there everyday. What- uh - odd logic they possess over there. And to that one poster I say yes, please run Laura Bush. Could be fun. Now I must go and wash up.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:55 PM
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15. There's someone here who proposed that a while ago |
Clintonista2
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:00 PM
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18. The sad part is, that doesn't surprise me |
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:41 PM
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29. that "someone" was probably trolling from over there |
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you know, "running it by the DUmmies," then going over there to brag about his brilliant "infiltration." LOL.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:22 AM
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I remember that. He was pretty adamant about it too. Talk about getting myself sucked into an absurd discussion-- that one was straight out of the Twilight Zone
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Fri Sep-21-07 02:12 PM
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Fri Sep-21-07 10:46 PM
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63. Huh, #32 was posted by "Ignored" |
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Oh wait.... ;) Probably for good reason I'm guessing.
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Fri Sep-21-07 10:44 PM
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62. That thread went on for like 400+ posts if I remember |
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and they were the only one in that entire thread arguing for it. :rofl:
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:37 PM
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28. spouses, no--but sons, yes? sheesh! DUH!! they are truly brilliant over there (nt) |
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:03 PM
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30. That provision was not in my copy of the constitution |
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Clinton is not my favorite, but she does qualify under the constitution. Did they think Bush could add that to the Constitution via a signing statement or something.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:09 PM
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32. My theory is that Bill shouldn't be allowed to be First Spouse |
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if the "intent" of the 2-term limit is to prevent a president from returning to power.
But Hillary could be president if she divorced Bill.
This wouldn't be enforced legally, but the obvious intent of the 2-term limit is to prevent the President from gaining a lifelong power over the US govt and having a dictatorship like other pseudo-democracies.
If 2 terms was good enough for George Washington, then the Clintons should really follow that lead.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:44 PM
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34. If the people don't want Hillary, they don't have to vote her in |
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Frankly, I'm not too fond of 2 term limits, either.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:00 AM
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35. no, i'm in favor of 2 terms since George Washington agreed to it |
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anything more than a decade really detracts the legacy, since economic cycles will drop, and there will be more problems to deal with. Some of the luster will be lost. And people get sick of you and want a fresh face and a fresh start. The US is too big to allow one person to rule for 12 or more years. There should be enough qualified individuals for the presidency.
The Clinton/Bush power is only a reflection of how the 2 party system is flawed if families can control the outcomes of the nominations.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:49 AM
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53. I think Roosevelt did a pretty bang-up job |
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I think Roosevelt did a pretty bang-up job.
I've always considered voters to be the best tool to determine term limits-- vote candidate x in again, and we've extended his term limits, vote him out and his term limit expires.
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Fri Sep-21-07 02:05 PM
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54. But FDR presided over the Depression and the country |
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was basically falling apart. The US has so many people, that its hard for me to believe that after 8 years, there is no one else qualified to run the country. In addition, the revolutionary war was fought in part due to dislike for monarchy rule and George Washington did not think the country should go in that direction.
In every country, there is a desire for stability that one-person rule can provide, and its only natural for things to evolve that way.
I think that the USA has a proud history of bucking that trend, and limiting a strong federal govt.
But just as the Ceasars ruled Rome, it looks like Americans are just as inclined to concede to one-person/one-family rule than other societies in history.
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Fri Sep-21-07 03:11 PM
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57. I'm afraid I cannot see any relevant similarities |
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I'm afraid I cannot see any relevant similarities between a President being voted in for more than two terms and a Monarchy. One is a choice of the people, the other is not.
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Fri Sep-21-07 03:15 PM
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58. I remembered that someone here took this same absurd position but couldn't remember who |
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thanks for saving me the trouble of searching for your earlier posts.
And your still completely wrong by the way.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:39 PM
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:39 PM
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33. But . . . But . . . But I thought Freepers WANTED Hillary to be our candidate |
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so they could enjoy the smack-down during the general election process and have no challenge on the path to the White House as they've pegged her as the most vulnerable democratic candidate.
I'm confused.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:05 AM
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36. Reminds me of Will Pitt's thread on the Republican habit of re-defining reality. |
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Activist Conservative judges and their political bosses have gotten away with trashing the Constitution for so long I'm not surprised they would seriously discuss something like this and think it was a possibility. After all, they installed a losing candidate as President in 2000 with the willing assistance of the Supreme Court.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:15 AM
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As I recall a decade ago the Supreme Court ruled that in a frivilous lawsuit the suer has to pay the person they're suing all their expenses --
I'll bet Hilary has some EXPENSIVE lawyers.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:27 AM
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39. Hey dumdasses, if it was as easy as that don't you think we would have found a loop whole |
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to sue Bush on and remove him from office? Before any of you say "Impeachment" i'm talking about us and not the congress doing the suing.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:10 AM
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41. So much for the "Republicans want Hillary to run" meme. |
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:26 AM
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42. All I can say is the stupidity shown here by some is astounding. |
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:34 AM
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43. As if we don't already have too many threads bashing Hillary, we import them from ... |
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the wingnut asylum that's been condemned for health reasons.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:52 AM
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46. Doncha know there can never be enough Hillary hate at the DU |
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:04 AM
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48. Of course you are correct |
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What on earth was I ever thinking? :dunce:
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:36 AM
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:46 AM
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45. Their unfamiliarity with the Constitution is truly breathtaking. |
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There is one guy on that thread who asks "if we have a crisis of gigantic proportions, can’t Bush postpone the election or cancel it?"
This didn't happen during the Civil War, WW1 or WW2, and it is warranted now because...?
They really want another 9/11 because, you know, the 1st one wasn't bad enough. :eyes:
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:11 AM
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50. It would seem they are not the only ones unfamiliar with the Constitution. |
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Fri Sep-21-07 03:17 PM
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59. I wish it was limited to them |
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But posts suggesting that chimpy will cancel the elections and even a thread arguing that Hillary is constitutionally disqualified from being president have appeared here as well.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:05 AM
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49. It's all a grand facade. They really WANT her to run. |
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Fri Sep-21-07 02:09 PM
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55. Exactly, the GOP can mitigate voter defections if she is the Dem nominee |
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Even though moderate voters will be tempted to leave the GOP in 2008, I think a Hillary candidacy would keep more in the fold than losses.
Bush and Cheney will be gone, so GOP voters realize that they are truly starting from scratch.
If this is a change election, can't the GOP offer a change candidate as well, in the form of Rudy? Thats what they are banking on.
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Fri Sep-21-07 06:41 PM
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61. Wow. I bet they just got some donations from certain DU'ers. |
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