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Fri Sep-21-07 06:57 AM
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C-Span: Newt Gingrich will Decide in October if he's Running as a *Green Conservative* |
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Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 07:22 AM by KoKo01
He says Science is the most important factor for our country in the next ten years. We need hydrocars, different ways to deal with our environment. His study group is also working on a Book that will take all the health care plans and find the best one. He thinks Mitt Romney has alot of money but he thinks that if he doesn't see his issues addressed he will announce in October. :eyes:
Sounded to me like he's trying to co-opt parts of Al Gore's message and running as a Green Conservative.
On Edit: He says the upcoming Campaign will be like France where Royale was a Liberal Female (like Hillary) and Sarkozy was a Conservative Reformer. He said the Conservative Reformer won. (I guess that Conservative Reformer will be Newt). He thinks he can beat Hillary because she's a liberal female....
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Fri Sep-21-07 06:59 AM
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:03 AM
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do everything I can to see that his issues are not addressed before October.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:03 AM
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3. The Only Green Conservative I Ever Heard Of |
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:47 AM
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:51 AM
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7. I wouldn't laugh - watch the Gingrich debate on global warming with Kerry |
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Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 07:55 AM by karynnj
Last spring, Gingrich and Kerry debated global warming. Gingrich did better than anyone I have seen debate Kerry, who won - even as scored by people less partisan than me. What he did was quickly reach out and grab the middle - admitting the science and need to do something on this. He also tried to grab rhetoric that Kerry had used in 2004, that spoke of how companies were moving in to these areas and with incentives would do what Americans do best - use their creativity and technology to create new products and technology. He moved the issue to whether the solution had to be government led or whether it could be done by making it in the interest of private enterprise to do it. Kerry quickly countered that with the experience of doing that since the Rio conference in 1992. (Kerry's 2004 speeches on this were awesome - instead of doom and gloom, alternative fuels lead to cleaner water and air, thus better health while creating good jobs in research, development, production and sales of new technology and products and while reducing our dependence on an unstable middle east. As he pointed out, even if the global warming science was wrong - these are great benefits in and of themselves.)
My point is that neither Gore or Kerry are running. They both have decades long knowledge on this issue and Gore is, by far, the leading advocate of fixing global warming. Kerry is very likely the best debater in either party. That Gingrich came out substantially better than the decimated McCain (MTP) signals that he could compete on this issue against Clinton, Obama or Edwards.
Gingrich has also been advising the Republicans to run AGAINST Bush as the needed change. (Bush = big government, not conservatism. He is not in office and can spin where he is on Iraq et al.
The good news is that Gingrich has a huge amount of baggage.
(edited to add that I don't have a link to anything on the Kerry/Gingrich debate because I don't have the time now to look for them.)
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:01 AM
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10. Given that the other Repug Candidates are so weak...Gingrich's baggage |
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might seem less if it came down to him running. He's a better speaker than all of them...and he could bring in the Conservative base if they decide that the others are too "liberal." Gingrich is the one they know and putting some lipstick on him by having him come out for more conservative judges to be appointed to do away with Roe vs. Wade and bring law & order to the country and lotsa more guns, would bring the base along. Also ratcheting up how Iran is a threat to Israel along with Syria and No. Korea like he was raving about this morning would make him very popular with the Pro-Endless War crowd.
I'm thinking he just might run after seeing him this a.m. His marital problems might cancel out Bill's problems and it would be a nasty dirty campaign...but what else is new these days.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:34 AM
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11. I am in 100% agreement with you |
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I was shocked how good he was in the Global warming debate. This issue is a Kerry strength. It is also an issue he is passionate and incredibly knowledgeable on - he beat Gingrich, but Gingrich did a more than credible job. None of our three lead candidates have the depth on that issue that would assure that they could beat him.
He could, with the echo chamber behind him, be very dangerous. (Oddly the best Democrat against him would likely be Kerry - even after 4 years of deamonization. (obligatory, Kerry is NOT running.)
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Fri Sep-21-07 11:03 AM
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12. It's not Gingrich's baggage that is the problem. It is his propensity for saying exactly what is on |
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his mind - which is often very much the wrong thing to say - and also his insufferable arrogance and talking down to people as if he and he alone knows what there is to know about a subject - any subject.
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Fri Sep-21-07 11:55 AM
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13. Kinda reminds me of the Squatter in the White House, though. Repugs could turn |
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Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 11:56 AM by KoKo01
Gingrich into a charmer, too. His "know it all" speaking style at least doesn't have the mispeaks and garbled words and he makes it sound as if he intelligent about what he's talking about. The RW Machine could do alot with Gingrich.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:51 PM
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16. I don't think so. As soon as they trot out the "new Gingrich" he would make some comment |
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about women not being suitable for combat because they get yeast infections from water in ditches. As the saying goes, "You can polish a turd but all it gets you is a shiny turd." The general public will never vote for someone like Gingrich because he can't talk to people without talking down to them and that pisses the hell out of people.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:08 AM
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4. Green? As in the color of money. |
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This whole situation with these repugs has me smiling. I can't help but remember that Whore Babs Bush calling the Democratic candidates in 2000 "a sorry lot" -- so the Newt's what you got? HaHaHaHaHa
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:29 AM
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5. This is a joke, right? |
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What Green Party voter would ever consider voting for the most famous Neocon of all? Seriously... Liberal bumper stickers
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:53 AM
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8. "Green" Conservative? What an oxymoron! |
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I live in *Newt Country* and the rate of deforestation in his former area is nothing less than STUNNING. His idea of GREEN is trading in a Hummer for an Escalade -- and that goes for most of his *base* in Cobb County.
This guy is frigging unbelievable.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:58 AM
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9. a kinder, gentler machine-gun hand n/t |
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:07 PM
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14. He's been positioning himself there for awhile now. |
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I posted a message back at the beginning of the year about an interview he did in "Discover" magazine coming across as all sciency and that he was thinking of running for President. Of course, you can read the doublespeak between the lines if you analyze what he says carefully.
I urged all DUers to go to the library to read it, since I couldn't post the link (you have to be a subscriber). Of course the post sank like a brick and no one really has revisited this until you did. I think it's very important especially since we know what a smarmy character Gingrich is.
He's smart enough to know that the "family values" meme has run its course and people are beginning to worry about global warming and putting fuel in their cars. How about shining knight in armor Sir Newtie coming to the rescue with a whole new scary issue he's going to save us from? I say, beware of Gingrich bearing gifts.
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Fri Sep-21-07 12:08 PM
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15. aaahahahahahahaahahahahahah! |
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Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 12:08 PM by redqueen
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:37 PM
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17. I had to Kick this.....I think he Could Come in......we need to be prepared??? |
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