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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:01 PM
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I like Edwards new plan to pay teachers 15k more to teach in poor areas
I'm usually a critic of his, but this latest proposal indicates that he may truly be trying to find solutions to a very important problem in the poorest communities: Education. I hope his plan actually makes sure that the teachers who take on these offers are actually qualified and passionate about education, and not just doing it for the money.

Keep up the good work, Edwards. Kudos.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_education_1

And I hope Obama, Clinton, and Kucinich are watching and have even better ideas in the works.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:03 PM
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1. Yeah
I like that idea too.

I would like to see Kucinich/Edwards or Edwards/Kucinich in the WH
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:07 PM
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2. Student loan forgiveness would help as well
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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:11 PM
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3. Previous Kucinich floor speech
Students Pay for Tax Cuts for the Rich

Dennis Kucinich speaking from the Floor of the House

Link to this entry in the Congressional Record
Feb 1, 2006

Speaking during debate on H.Res. 653, providing for concurrence with Senate amendment to the House amendment to S. 1932, the Deficit Reduction Act of 2006, Congressman Kucinich said:

"Mr. Speaker, the bill before us today cuts approximately $12 billion from the federal student programs. Under this bill, the tax cuts for the super-rich are placed on the backs of students and their families. Under this bill, student borrowers -- already saddled with $17,500 in debt -- will be forced to pay even more for his or her college loans.

"The bill raises student loan interest rate caps and raises student loan taxes and fees. It places billions of dollars in student aid at risk by cutting $2.2 billion in critical funds used to carry out and administer the student aid programs.

"Some of the excessive subsidies to large lending institutions are finally cut but no protections are put in place to ensure that students will not have those costs passed on to to them as well. Rather than reinvesting those dollars into low-interest loans and additional grants, this bill uses the money for alleged deficit reduction.

"This bill is a travesty. It masquerades as a budget reconciliation, but is truly a tax cut for the wealthy paid for by students. The Higher Education Act was intended to help provide all Americans, regardless of their income-level, with greater educational opportunities. The Act recognizes the shared benefits, by both society and the individual, of a higher education. But instead of working to further those goals, the changes to student loan programs that we are faced with today undermine the goal of HEA.

"We must make it clear that we place students above tax cuts for the wealthy and defeat this bill. I urge my colleagues to stand with me and oppose H.Res. 653."



(http://www.kucinichforcongress.com/floor_speeches/educ_students_pay1feb.php">Source)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:30 PM
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7. There are programs for that
High needs areas and fields like math and science, they pay so much for every year you teach, something like that. I think it should be more helpful on the front end so kids are sure they'll get the financial credits when they need them.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:49 PM
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9. there's already a program out there for that...
it's just not well-publicized.
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framecop Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:48 AM
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11. Exactly. Until he goes there, he's just scratching at the surface
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:11 PM
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4. South Bronx
My daughter is a new teacher and teaching in the South Bronx. Although her undergraduate loans are almost paid off (by us), she still has to take out loans to get her Masters which is required in New York State.

It would definitely help them just starting out.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:15 PM
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5. I don't know why teachers have to pay for their Masters' degrees
It's never made sense to me.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:27 PM
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6. Since Obama proposed it already
I'm sure he's on board. This is what they tried to turn into merit pay. He meant teachers who take on tough tasks merit more money.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:47 PM
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8. Obama advocated those incentives MONTHS ago...
He promised more pay "across the board" for teachers and extra incentives for those willing to work in lower-performing schools in urban and rural areas

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/8335627.html
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:53 PM
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10. Yea combat pay.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:03 AM
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12. That's nice and all, but why not double all teacher's pay
Lord knows they need it, and it would be beneficial to both the children, but the educational profession in general.
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:30 PM
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16. Realistically, a lot of teachers don't deseve it.
I know idiots who teach high school history who make more than a lot of college professors.

Well-qualified, intelligent teachers do deserve a significant raise though.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 01:13 PM
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13. I'd like to be paid what I'm worth
no matter where I'm teaching, frankly.

I think every teacher ought to be paid well.

If you want to attract teachers to at-risk areas, I'd suggest a focus on supporting the communities in those areas. If you go in and make sure that "poor" areas are clean, safe, have adequate housing, jobs, transportation, and services, there will be teachers who will want to teach there.



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:30 PM
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14. Any money spent on getting more teachers and nurses would be well spent...
and to give them all a decent salary is so important. They are so valuable to our country...and so overlooked. Think of all the jobs we could provide if folks could be given some big tuition breaks and a decent salary to teach and train to help us when we are sick.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:03 PM
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15. Would that be just for newly hired teachers...
...or also for those that have been doing the job for years?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:35 PM
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17. This is why I really really like Edwards
He has some really great ideas, and I don't think that people pay very much attention to him. Edwards is my 2nd choice, by far.
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