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Sun Sep-23-07 12:31 AM
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Poll question: Who hurt America more? Reagan or * |
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:32 AM
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:33 AM
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Reagan, for all his faults, didn't try to dismantle the Constitution.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:33 AM
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2. Reagan certainly set a tone for selfish behavior in America. |
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Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 01:08 AM by wake.up.america
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:33 AM
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3. Bush and the ghost of Reagan. |
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:39 AM
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The real one ... or the myth fabricated by the GOP wannabes through the years?
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:52 AM
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12. RayGun prepared the ground for |
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Bu$h or Bu$h I since RayGun was incapcitated by no brain. I am really afraid, U$ beginning to look like the 3rd Riech.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:40 AM
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5. Bush, most certainly... |
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Reagan's a close second, though...:puke:
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:41 AM
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6. Reagan dismantled our foundation and set the stage for Bush to tear down the house |
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I have to give the nod to Reagan because that is the time when the rich and powerful lost the rains that were keeping them in control. Since then they have slowly grabbed more and more power as wages have dropped, jobs have gone off shore, mass media has become controlled by only a few drugged by money and power. I just don't think Bush could have been as successful without Reagan and a lot of the problems were already in play before Bush got into office. Bush is just more obvious and in your face about it.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:47 AM
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10. yes. me too. what you said so well. eom |
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:48 AM
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:07 AM
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15. Deregulation in itself is not a bad idea |
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but it has to be paired with a vigilant eye on antitrust. The antitrust part never happened.
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:06 PM
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30. Carter was responsible for most of the deregulation. |
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It mainly played out under Reagan. Carter deregulated transportation, energy, and communications. It was one of the reasons he became unpopular. He lost the support of many of the NE Democrats when he pushed the deregulation agenda through.
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:15 AM
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16. Reagan's veto of the Fairness Doctrine had a huge impact |
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and IMO if he knew what the eventual effect would be, he would have signed the bill.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:42 AM
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7. Reagan opened the box and set it all in motion. He is still most responsible. |
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Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 12:45 AM by countmyvote4real
Of course even the current Reagan ghost was as much a puppet as * is of their respective masters. If Reagan could get away with this shit, he would have. Hell, we invaded Grenada under Reagan. At least he had the good sense to get out. Just as he did in Lebanon after the Marine bombing.
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:35 AM
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22. I disagree. Nancy is very unhappy with the Bush Presidency, |
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and I think her husband would be, too. And the Grenada invasion cannot compare to the invasion of Iraq.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:44 AM
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8. I think Bush has done more damage, but that doesn't make Reagan... |
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...any less of a disaster. One of the real political ironies of my lifetime is that since Eisenhower, and possibly including Ike, the BEST republican president since the 1950s was probably Richard Nixon. Discounting Ford, who was just a placeholder, really. Now THAT'S irony.
I'm going to go beat my head against the wall for a while and think about that. :banghead:
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:45 AM
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Hands down has done more to destroy this country (and everything else he touches) than that moran Reagan. Reagan set the bar high but DumbYa leapt over it... No one has done more to divide this nation than the fake fucking cowboy from Hell.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:55 AM
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13. Reagan actually worked for a living once |
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and had a successful career. Say what you will about his ideology -- he was a smarter man, a more gracious man, and a better diplomat.
No comparison.
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:06 AM
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14. If Reagan hadn't armed the terr'ists... |
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Chimpy would've had a more difficult time starting a war. This may be a tie.
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Sun Sep-23-07 02:28 AM
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17. They were both extraordinarily poor choices by the voters. |
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Or the Supreme Court, as the case may be.
Hard to pick which of the two disastrous administrations is the most disastrous.
I guess Bush, by half a notch.
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Sun Sep-23-07 02:40 AM
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18. If you fall off a building... |
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Which hurts more, the first 100 feet, or the last 100 feet?
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Sun Sep-23-07 02:56 AM
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19. Reagan sure greased the slippery slop. |
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Reagan started the attack on labor and the Middle Class, and out trade deficit. But in terms of debt, war , international disrepute, economic decline Bush II is champ.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:50 AM
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20. Reagan. Because without Reagan, there would never have been a *. |
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:36 AM
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23. I think Rove was the key person. Rove and Cheney. |
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:33 PM
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Thats why I chose Reagan on this poll.
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:38 AM
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24. Everyone's forgetting someone: |
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Richard Nixon.
Most of the key players in W's administration started off in Nixon's. He's the one that started the ball rolling, but he didn't have nearly the success that Bush has had.
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:51 AM
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I gave it to Bush Lite, but just by a whisker. He was just more phony and publicly inept than the others, and so his poor performance was a lot more blatant than that of Reagan (or Nixon).
Nixon and Reagan at least put up a presentable pretense of working for the nation, even when it was clear that it wasn't so. Cheneybush dropped all pretense long ago.
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Sun Sep-23-07 05:09 AM
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Reagan didn't wreck the Middle East...
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Sun Sep-23-07 09:09 AM
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27. C) All of the above. n/t |
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Sun Sep-23-07 10:05 AM
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28. Reagan set the stage. |
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Bush pranced across it in a fake cowboy suit.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:57 PM
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35. Every pernicious trend that led to the decline of theis country |
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Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 03:57 PM by depakid
Began with Reagan. Despite the current aggrandizement, history will not be kind to Reagan. His legacy will be looked at as the beginning of the end to the nation's wealth and power.
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Sun Sep-23-07 12:55 PM
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On the surface, I'd say GWB, but who paved the way for him to take power?
Who set him up to do what he's done?
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:12 PM
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31. I'll have to give a slight edge to *. |
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Reagan really wasn't an ideologue. He just talked like one. He did some monumentally terrible things that are responsible for a lot of the problems we face now days but he at least privately was sometimes realistic.
* actually believes the garbage he spews and blindly supports those policies even in the face of the reality of their failure. We've only just begun to see the blow back from his horrible governing. Reagan look pretty bad in hind sight. I can't even begin to imagine the crap we're going to uncover once Shrub Inc is out of the White House. I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg of what Shrub Inc has been up to.
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:21 PM
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32. Reagan -8 years to ruin Califonia, especially mental health & |
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education, 8 years as president with a terrible legacy. Endless years of inspiring the mindless, selfish, followers on the right. Bush has done lots of damage to our country and constitution but if you merely do a cursory dig you find Reagan people doing the heavy lifting.
by the way why the hell did Reagan wait so long to single handedly "end the cold war"?
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Sun Sep-23-07 01:22 PM
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33. In my eyes no contest, * fucked it ALL up |
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from top to bottom. Leaving another one of his Texas-sized/style legacies.
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:05 PM
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36. Reagan was the beginning of the end |
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for all progressive change in America. He gave America the kiss of death and * did the contract killing.
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