Can You Believe This Shit??? Just got it from a 'freeper' acquaintance

[Bobbieo]

Fw: Interesting insights
>
>
> I received the following E-mail today an it is the
> best explanation that I
> have heard on the current political situation
> concerning the war on terror.
>
> 'You ain't gonna like losing.'
>
> Author unknown.
>
> President Bush did make a bad mistake in the war on
> terrorism. But the
> mistake was not his decision to go to war in Iraq .
> Bush's mistake came in his
> belief that this country is the same one his father
> fought for in WWII. It is
> not.
>
> Back then, they had just come out of a vicious
> depression. The country was
> steeled by the hardship of that depression, but
> they still believed fervently
> in this country. They knew that the people had
> elected their leaders, so it
> was the people's duty to back those leaders.
>
> Therefore, when the war broke out the people came
> together, rallied behind,
> and stuck with their leaders, whether they had
> voted for them or not or
> whether the war was going badly or not.
>
> And war was just as distasteful and the anguish
> just as great then as it is
> today. Often there were more casualties in one day
> in WWII than we have had
> in the entire Iraq war. But that did not matter.
> The people stuck with the
> President because it was their patriotic duty.
> Americans put aside their
> differences in WWII and worked together to win that
> war.
>
> Everyone from every strata of society, from young
> to old pitched in. Small
> children pulled little wagons around to gather
> scrap metal for the war effort.
> Grade school students saved their pennies to buy
> stamps for war bonds to
> help the effort.
>
> Men who were too old or medically 4F lied about
> their age or condition
> trying their best to join the military. Women
> doubled their work to keep things
> going at home. Harsh rationing of everything from
> gasoline to soap, to butter
> was imposed, yet there was very little complaining.
>
> You never heard prominent people on the radio
> belittling the President.
> Interestingly enough in those days there were no
> fat cat actors and entertainers
> who ran off to visit and fawn over dictators of
> hostile countries and
> complain to them about our President. Instead, they
> made upbeat films and
> entertained our troops to help the troops' morale.
> And a bunch even enlisted.
>
> And imagine this: Teachers in schools actually
> started the day off with a
> Pledge of Allegiance, and with prayers for our
> country and our troops!
>
> Back then, no newspaper would have dared point out
> certain weak spots in our
> cities where bombs could be set off to cause the
> maximum damage. No
> newspaper would have dared complain about what we
> were doing to catch spies.
>
> A newspaper would have been laughed out of
> existence if it had complained
> that German or Japanese soldiers were being
> 'tortured' by being forced to wear
> women's underwear, or subjected to interrogation by
> a woman, or being scared
> by a dog or did not have air conditioning.
>
> There were a lot of things different back then. We
> were not subjected to a
> constant bombardment of pornography, perversion and
> promiscuity in movies or
> on radio. We did not have legions of crack heads,
> dope pushers and armed gangs
> roaming our streets.
>
> No, President Bush did not make a mistake in his
> handling of terrorism. He
> made the mistake of believing that we still had the
> courage and fortitude of
> our fathers. He believed that this was still the
> country that our fathers
> fought so dearly to preserve.
>
> It is not the same country. It is now a cross
> between Sodom and Gomorra and
> the land of Oz. We did unite for a short while
> after 9/11, but our attitude
> changed when we found out that defending our
> country would require some
> sacrifices.
>
> We are in great danger. The terrorists are fanatic
> Muslims. They believe
> that it is okay, even their duty, to kill anyone
> who will not convert to Islam.
> It has been estimated that about one third or over
> three hundred million
> Muslims are sympathetic to the terrorists
> cause...Hitler and Tojo combined did
> not have nearly that many potential recruits.
>
> So...we either win it - or lose it - and you ain't
> gonna like losing.
>
> America is not at war. The military is at war.
> America is at the mall.
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[melody]

1. The Koolaid Drinkers Anthem n/t

[alphafemale]

2. America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall.

Well, I agree with that much.

[FREEWILL56]

3. Yes they got it right don't they? They caught us.

Our moral standings against the war has stopped all of our bullets from hitting al qaeda or the insurgents 7000 miles away, but allowed the Iraqi people to get hit. What a crock! Next they'll blame Santa Claus for not supplying the troops better too. With that kind of reasonning i propose that it's Mickey Mouse's fault for not having cartoon supporting images in the theaters to get republicon assholes like him to enlist and actually go fight the war they want everybody else to do for them. Ergo, it's the republicons who own Disney's fault:eyes: :wtf: :dunce:

[pnwmom]

4. Why don't you ask your friend

why Bush cut taxes for the wealthy just as we went to war? They didn't do that in World War II.

Bush is the one who wants us all at the mall. Otherwise we might notice how he's bankrupting the country.

[Josh]

15. That's right - the top tax bracket was 94% in World War 2!

nt

[Solly Mack]

5. the mind wobbles

[ThoughtCriminal]

6. Didn't Bush TELL us we should go shopping

and fly to Disney World as a way to "Fight" terrorism?

Ridicule the hell out of him/her, his/her chickenhawn idols and be sure to "Reply All".

[Nostradammit]

9. Ya beat me to it!

:toast:

[sce56]

7. I guess the writer hasn't a clue as to what the Constitution and Bill of rights means to US

He neglected to learn that the war in Iraq is not like the WWII We were dragged into that war by the country's we fought not by a lying pResident in his war of choice. The Terrorist threat is one that the US made, Look at who trained armed Bin Laden the CIA then when the cold war was over we needed a new bogeyman to keep up the war Profiteers Budget er Defense Budget So in walks the new enemy Osamma Bin Laden who just happens to come from the family that has been in partnership with the Bush Family since at least the 70's. This is the same family that was given permission to fly after 911 whne the average American had to figure out some alternative way home after all air traffic was grounded and did not have to answer any questions from the FBI!

Got Fascism Yet?
http://web.archive.org/web/20030602211200/
Fascism Accomplished!

[Nostradammit]

8. We're all at the mall because George Bush told us, "Keep Shopping."

And I intend to stay at the mall until my president tells me to stop.

[bluestateguy]

10. If this person has such a fetish to go back to WWII America, then put up or shut up

We need to raise taxes through the absolute fucking roof, as we did in WWII.

We need to bring back the draft as we did in WWII.

We need to ration all raw materials: gas, oil, metal, rubber, tin, copper, etc., as well as food ingredients like sugar, salt, meats and produce, as was done in WWII.

No more luxury goods production. Factories that are making SUV's and Plasma screen TV's should be "encouraged" to cease producing such nonsense and convert their factories into defense plants, making body armor for the troops and IED resistant Hummers.

We need government control, yes, that's right Mr. Conservative, government control of all economic means of production and distribution. There's a war going on, and no time for capitalist silliness.

And finally, we need a GI Bill of Rights that is as generous as the one enacted in 1944: full tuition, room and board plus a stipend at any college or university that a veteran is admitted to attend.

[frogcycle]

12. yep.

and we need a president who calls for those things if he means what he says about his war of choice

[saracat]

11. But after 9-11 the pretzeldent told us the most patriotic thing we could do was "shop"!

[FREEWILL56]

14. HMMM. I ran out of money to shop.

Does that make bush unpatriot in supporting our efforts to shop in order to ignor that he's waging a bullshit war? He gave the top percentage upper crust more money to shop, so where the hell is mine?

[BulletproofLandshark]

13. This just in...Wingnuts are still racist, paranoid, jingostic chickenshits!

[HuffleClaw]

16. "it was the people's duty to back those leaders"

funny, i don't recall them 'backing' clinton and besides, comparing world war ii to the 'war on terror' is just plain offensive.

[tecelote]

17. In WWII the President did not declare an illegal war!

Why do so many people forget that war is immoral?!

It is a last resort.

Our President chose war and our nation bowed to the devil.

Why do so many people forget that war is immoral?!

Peace is where you will find honor and truth.

[Eagle_Eye]

18. The American people are better informed than those of 1939

When the news came from a limited number of newspapers, radio stations, and publishing houses, it was easy for the government to manipulate the people's perception of the world.

Today we have literally a million blogs, information websites, and of course the Democratic Underground to get the truth out.

We know the score about little george's administration. We must get out and vote to correct this mess with a Democratic Executive Branch in 2009.

[Rydz777]

19. And just think, WWII was the last war declared by Congress - in

accordance with the Constitution. Since them, we have this record of "police actions" and other euphemisms:
Korean War = statemate;
Viet Nam = debacle;
Iraq War = debacle.

[xchrom]

20. he's defending an awol president who told us to go shopping?

that's the right wing for ya.

[ClintonTyree]

21. He lost me in the second paragraph....

Back then, they had just come out of a vicious
> depression. The country was
> steeled by the hardship of that depression, but
> they still believed fervently
> in this country. They knew that the people had
> elected their leaders, so it
> was the people's duty to back those leaders.

The people of the United States DID NOT elect the current illegal squatter in the White House. He was SELECTED by a conservative (not so ) Supreme Court. He LOST the popular vote and STOLE the electoral college vote. Mr. "uniter, not a divider" would have been nothing more than an asterisk in American History had it not been for his dismantling of the Clinton's Bin Laden Task Force, thus allowing Bin Laden to perpetrate the worst attack on American soil in history.

So this guy can take his fairy tale visualization of "the greatest country on earth" and shove it right up his moronic conservative ass. Everything he wrote can be refuted and reduced to the absolute drivel it is. Why is it that these asswipes always long for the past? A past that, without use of the rose colored trifocals secured squarely to his upturned nose, seldom resembles the actual facts of history?

That entire conservative screed is nothing more than jingoistic pablum designed to sate the failing appetites of old, conservative curmudgeons who can't even begin to understand the nuance of today's global issues. :puke:

[gratuitous]

25. And not only that . . .

But our leaders in World War II leveled with the American people, rather than hiding away mountains of corruption, graft and murderous deception that we're only beginning to mine. Let's raise the tax rate to 94% on Paris Hilton and the rest of the overrich, and get this war paid for by the people profiting from it; let's have our elected officials tell the truth; let's visit the burdens of this war on all of society, not just the powerless, and THEN we can have a little chat.

Methinks the original poster should tighten his or her circle of acquaintances just a teensy bit.

[Chemical Bill]

22. It's true that freepers are enlisting in record numbers...

oh, wait, it isn't true. Never mind.

Bill

[CK_John]

23. Why do you continue to publish this BS? n/t

[Vickers]

24. Wow, that email convinced me to become a Republican!!!

:rofl:

[zulchzulu]

26. Why isn't this guy writing this from his bunker in Iraq?

Surely if he believes all that claptrap, he certainly should feel obligated to suit his yellow tail up and head on over to The Quagmire. Words are cheap.

[madmom]

27. first off bush was Not elected , second why are the freepers not lying

about their medical conditions and age to get into the military,and third thank (insert deity of choice)this is not the same country as then, this is the 21st century get with it!

[BootinUp]

28. The absurdity of comparing WWII to Bushes WOT

belies any effort to discuss the issue with someone who uses that argument.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Not this BS again!

December 7, 1941 - Japan commits an act of War against the US in Pearl Harbor

December 11, 1941 - Hitler Declared War on the United States of America
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitler_declares_war.html

The Three Powers have therefore concluded the following Agreement, which was signed in Berlin today:

"In their unshakable determination not to lay down arms until the joint war against the U.S.A. and England reaches a successful conclusion, the German, Italian, and Japanese Governments have agreed on the following points:

Article I. Germany, Italy and Japan will wage the common war forced upon them by the U.S.A. and England with all the means of power at their disposal, to a victorious conclusion.

Article II. Germany, Italy and Japan undertake not to conclude an armistice or peace with the U.S.A. or with England without complete mutual understanding.

Article III. Germany, Italy and Japan will continue the closest cooperation even after the victorious conclusion of the war in order to bring about a just new order in the sense of the Tri-Partite Pact concluded by them on the 27th September 1940.

Article IV. This Agreement comes into force immediately after signature and remains in force as long as the Tri-Partite Pact of 27th September 1940. The Signatory Powers will confer in time before this period ends about the future form of the co-operation provided for in Article III of this Agreement."

Anyone remember when Bush was comparing this to World War II? I lost my mind then and I'm losing it again now.

What part of:

Roosevelt was elected - not appointed and . . .

They declared war against US don't these jackasses not understand? Now I pretty much worship at the altars of Roosevelt and Truman. I know that Roosevelt was DYING to get into the European theater. All anyone has to do is open a book on the man's Presidency - to include him warning German not to invade (I can't remember the exact number) about 35 countries in Europe and sending empty, old warships over to Churchhill . . .He was a cocky mo fo.

But he was also a strategic one dealing with a Congress that still wanted to stick its' head in the sand and pretend that isolationism was the way to go. Even if it meant letting one of our oldest Allies (France) fall to those bastard Nazis.

He waited. He waited. He waited. He got his 'War' ONLY when others attacked/declared us.

No nation attacked us on 9/11. Bush is not anyone's elected President. And he does not deserve the support of the American people for acting like Hitler, Mussolini and Emperor Hirohito all rolled up in one.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

30. Then he'll have no problem with

1. gas rationing, so that they'll have to take the bus or walk everywhere

2. meat rationing, so they'll go to McDonald's and get nothing but Spam, if that

3. no model updates in any consumer goods

4. a DRAFT