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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:01 AM
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Kerrymomentum = "Joemomentum"
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 06:06 AM by anarchy1999
Everyone here. This is my call. Quit letting the media, the DNC, whoever, tell you who is electable, who needs to drop out, who can beat Bush. Stop it. Stand by your man and see it through to the Convention. Make Democracy happen again. STAND on Your CONVICTIONS!
Who cares if we have four qualified candidates to choose from at the convention. Wouldn't it be fun to have a real old fashioned convention. I personally would love it.

Whoops, sorry, five candidates. Let the chips fall where they may and may the BEST MAN WIN!

If I am not mistaken, isn't that how the parties hammered out what would be the platform of the party as well? Ummm, democracy in action, novel concept.... Where did it ever go?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:04 AM
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1. define "old fashioned"
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 06:05 AM by wyldwolf
I believe the chips are falling where they may right now.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:10 AM
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2. Old - Fashioned.....
If I remember correctly, there were all the caucauses and preliminaries, delegates went to the convention and it was at the convention that the nominee for the Party was chosen. Am I wrong? I'm almost eligible for AARP (3 yrs), but it seems to me that is how it used to happen?????

Help me out here.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:13 AM
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3. There are still "all the caucauses and preliminaries"
They were just moved up in the year to give our candidate more time to defeat Bush - which is the most important thing this year.

The candidate still cannot be chosen without a certain number of delegates.

We all get the chance to vote.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:14 AM
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4. A real old fashioned convention had party bosses

making deals in smoke-filled rooms. Not a good thing, so far as voters are concerned.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:15 AM
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5. Are you prepared to pay for such a scenario?
With Bushco's hundreds of millions and sleazy campaign history, are you prepared to fully fund each of our Dem candidates all the way to the convention?

"Ummm, democracy in action, novel concept.... Where did it ever go?"

It went on TV... and the price of reaching the most voters (not just the few white, influential men of old) is too high.

If you're proposing that women and people of color just sit this one out so we could "have a real old fashioned convention," I'm not in favor.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:35 AM
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8. I can only afford one candidate, but
I belive the decision used to be made at the National Convention (I think much like the caucuses (sp?) we have witnessed this year). As to women and people of color not being involved in the process, heavens no! We all need to be there. ALL OF US!

I don't care what the color of your skin is, or what your religion may be, what your gender is, this is about democracy, about your being a citizen. This is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Period. Corporations are not to be considered as an individual with the same rights as a person.

see:
www.reclaimdemocracy.org
and
www.poclad.org
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:22 AM
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6. It's "Joementum"
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 06:22 AM by krkaufman
In Kerry's and Edwards' cases, as in Dean's but with an opposite tone, it's Homentum, as in Media Ho-mentum. :)
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:30 AM
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7. Oh, please don't make me!

You know, it would be great to have four or five to choose from. But if you really look at the political terrain acutely, even independent of polls, four of the five remaining candidates are destined to fail against the present reality independent of their Democratic competitors now. Tempting as their way of misunderstanding the present situation is to many, they've simply got it wrong.

So in some ways you are perfectly right, provided the voting were really about who we are and think we are and want. But to win in 2004 the choice made in the end has to be about the reality we face, aka getting over the narcissisms a whole bunch of people are having a lot of trouble with. So you are in a way more wrong than right- we are in a situation where our choice has to be not what we like but what is wise. I don't see the two coinciding, so being guided by the noisiest of the fools is probably the opposite of what we should be doing.

I don't think you'll get your wish. At least, I hope that doesn't happen and I expect it won't.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:41 AM
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9. 17 contests - 15 wins how is that "Joementum"?
Kerry keeps winning.
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