"28 straight years of Bush or Clinton in the Executive Branch is enough...

[Perky]

28 years of mean-spirited class warfare is enough. Do we really want another four years of this? It is time for a new generation".


Is this a message that resonates with you and with primary voters generally?

(this includes Bush Senior as VP)

[sasquatch]

1. Hopefully it'll go to someone other than Hillary

But if it does I won't be upset.

[wyldwolf]

2. "yes with voters generally" is a silly option

There is no evidence voters generally feel this way. Kinda like having an opinion the moon is made of cheese.

[Perky]

3. It was not suggested that they do feel that way. The question

really is whether it is something that might resonate if proffered.

[wyldwolf]

4. If proffered? It's been proffered almost continuously

If it's proffered anymore it will be in push-polling territory.

[Perky]

6. Which candidate is saying this?

[wyldwolf]

7. does a candidate have to say it for it to be "proferred?"

[Perky]

9. that was the intent of the question

It wouid be a gutsy Move for either Obama or Edwards to say it..... and as far as I kno neither hast. The question is how would it play with primary voters or would it backfire?

[wyldwolf]

10. the poll in no way implied that

[Perky]

12. I think you are artfully dodging.

[wyldwolf]

13. your OP is just a few post above this one. Perhaps you can translate it for us

Show us where you implied that.

[Perky]

15. The fact that the question is in quotes

and ask if the message is provided for consumption would voters bite?

I think the inference is pretty clear that the message articulated would be articulated by a candidate.


WHo else would be in the position to proffer the message with the benefit and risk with the primary electorate by making the proffer?

The candidates are certainly implied.

[DangerDave921]

25. They should say it!

They need to say enough of Bush and Clinton. We are not supposed to have royal families in this country, even though the citizens need to be reminded of that sometimes. People say they want change, but on some level they really want something familiar. Hence, FDR getting elected so many times. Hence, incumbents winning over 90% of the time.

And, dare I say, the bewildering popularity of lousy restaurants like Chilis, Red Robin, Bob Evans, and Appleby's (or as we call it, Crap-pleby's). OK, I like the sausage gravy at Bob Evans because of my southern roots. But people line up out the door to eat food that was made in a factory two weeks before, flash-frozen, and then "cooked to order."

[beyurslf]

5. Is that a poll question? "Should the Senator stop beating his wife?"

[sandnsea]

8. taxing the rich is class warfare

and playing right into their hands. That's what I was told yesterday. I didn't expect it at DU, but I do think lots of people think that way. I don't think too many people would even know what you meant when you said "mean-spirited class warfare", especially as it relates to the Clintons.

[Perky]

11. "a catch phrase to be sure" but the voting public does not like it

even if the Repukee's started it.

[Frances]

14. Agree

I think people may be against Hillary for many reasons, but I think most people don't think of a wife in the same way that they think of a son (or daughter). It's pretty clear to me that Chelsea isn't interested in a political career. And there are no more relatives in the wings so that we would get a Clinton dynasty. If it turns out that Hillary shows that she would be the best President then I will support her. Right now, Hillary, Edwards, and Obama are all possibilities for me.

[sandnsea]

18. Uhm, I agree with the OP

I just don't think most people see how much the Clintons implement Republican politics. Tax credits were supposed to help us have lifelong education. We were going to need that to compete in the global economy, remember? How much did it help the people actually being displaced - not a bit, that's how much. And mandates and tax credits are how she's going to help those same people with health care?? Today she said she expects the number of troops she retains in Iraq to be less than 100,000 - oh well that's comforting. What has she said to prove she'd actually change our foreign policy, not just put a happy face on the same old global domination bullshit. 28 years of Bushes and Clintons and their war on the people is quite enough.

It's like Greenspan said, Clinton was the best Republican president we've had in a long while.

I'd really like a Democrat this time. Edwards, Obama, perhaps Dodd. No more Clintons.

[HawkerHurricane]

16. Class warfare is what happens when...

the lower classes shoot BACK.

Until then, it's "Class Slaughter" or perhaps, "Class Genocide".

And I say
"Lowering taxes in wartime is treason."

[illinoisprogressive]

17. all my adult life under one of the two worst families in politics ruling this country has

ruined it. I want to see what it is like to live with someone ruling who is not a Bush or clinton.
Someone honest and can do a good job and quit running this country into the ground.

[liberal renegade]

21. Did Clinton run this country into the ground?

He lied about a blowjob, but did a damn good job as president....

[NoPasaran]

27. Damn that peace! Damn that prosperity!

The Clintons are the reason SNL sucks!

:sarcasm:

[rateyes]

19. 20 years is more than enough....

28 is too much. 21 is too much. In fact, 12 was enough.

[smalll]

20. Sorry your candidate's going nowhere!

Who is it: Edwards, Obama, Kucinich maybe? It must be tough! :hug:

[Perky]

22. Judging by the this poll I would say it was Hillary who was going nowhere

[DURHAM D]

23. Nice - once again DU is the graveyard

of a right wing talking point.

[MaineDem]

24. I can't speak for "voters generally"

The Clinton Presidency was no comparison to the Bush years.

I will support our nominee. Hopefully, most Democrats will as well.

[Maribelle]

26. The voters did not want 28 straight years of Bush or Clinton in 2000. They voted for Gore.

Who on earth now believes folks should not vote for Hillary because we've had a corrupt Supreme Court that violated the voters, violated the Constitution, and gave our nation the most corrupt government she has ever had to endure?

Common sense seems to have been flushed down the toilet with this logic. And the opposite is true. One of the numerous reasons to vote for Hillary is to give an old-fashion Italian Salute to the corrupt bush ass wipes pretending they are unbiased judges.

[Imagevision]

28. Eventually, Hillary will end up being more of the same. need new generation of leadership

youngerblood.

[illinoisprogressive]

29. The bush clinton era has run this country into the ground. to fix, we don't need more of same.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

30. Who is next in the lineage after HRC? Jeb, Laura? Just wondering....n/m

[Kelly Rupert]

31. Yeah, the Clinton years were *so* awful. Damn peace and prosperity,

makes me sick. Clearly we shouldn't elect Hillary Clinton, because Bush was not a good president.