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Wed Feb-18-04 08:51 AM
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Poll question: Will Dean supporters stick with party or go third party/write in? |
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Question of the day.....inquiring minds would like to know.
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Wed Feb-18-04 08:55 AM
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I think you need a bigger question mark! :D
(and no, I didn't vote in the poll - though I was hoping to look at the results and see a big, fat ZERO for the third party/other category)
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Wed Feb-18-04 08:56 AM
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Biggest one I could find.
:)
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Wed Feb-18-04 08:56 AM
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2. Do we really need this |
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Wed Feb-18-04 08:57 AM
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5. It's a legitimate question |
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The stakes are incredibly high this year.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:28 AM
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13. Which gets asked day after day after day |
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And I am sick and tired of it.
Ask me again November 1.
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Wed Feb-18-04 08:56 AM
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3. I will vote for the Democratic nominee but.... |
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I truly am heartbroken about what the media and the Democratic Party did to Dean. It really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.... not of politics but of certainly the media and the democratic party. I am a Democrat and have been one since way before I could vote and this election cycle was my first time donating to a political candidate. I was almost moved to donate to the democratic party as well and thankfully I did not. I will still call myself a democrat but I am disgusted with the Democratic party for what happened to Dean.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:00 AM
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Edwards can't win because of the 35 million limit.
Kerry can't win period.
Dean played the 1976 Reagan card tonight.
The day Dean gets out of the race is day we start working for 2008.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:06 AM
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7. I don't know about 2008, but what I plan |
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to do, as I said in an earlier post, is to wait and see what Howard has to say about why we should continue to support him by voting for him in the primary.
I believe with all my heart that the DNC/DLC wants the Dean movement to go away, drift off into the sunset.
I WANT TO SEE CHANGE. I am not going to go away. I will vote for Dean on Super Tuesday, because to do otherwise, will risk that change will not take place.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:06 AM
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whoever they nominate. (even if it's Kerry)
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Wed Feb-18-04 11:10 AM
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25. ABB first, ABK second. |
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:09 AM
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I'm open to options.
And that being said, I think it's bit premature.
The Third Party scenario hasn't even been set yet.
Now, if you're asking me if I plan to vote for ABK out of the revenge factor, count me out.
I support Dean because I believe he's the best guy for the job.
All I can say now is that I'm looking into the Green platform.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:11 AM
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10. It sounds like many of you are not interested |
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in change within the Democratic party.
If Dean proposes a new movement, does that mean you will not support it?
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:27 AM
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12. Well, here's the situation as I've seen them. |
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I cannot speak for the entire nation but, as demonstarted here, Dean people are "NOT VERY HAPPY"(to say the least). The last Dean Meet-up I went to was more like a scene in the "Mutiny on the HMS Bounty".
And the Dean people are angry and rightfully so. Last time I saw the neutral elements Democratic Party leadership attack a candidate in the primary was The "Reagan Democrats" attack on Jimmy Carter.
Now, there are two-camps within the Dean Movement. Most Deaners(from what I've seen) are Democrats.
However, A lot of Deaners are also non-Democrats(like myself).
In my opinion, if the Dems want a unity "pledge" from the Dean supporter base...they should just leave it alone for a while and let them resolve the differences within their own ranks without "foreign intervention".
People have to remember that Dean movement started out as a rebellion against the Establishment Democrats. It wasn't just about defeating Bush.
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Wed Feb-18-04 10:31 AM
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22. The ONLY thing most of us want is change within the Democratic Party. |
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And it ain't gonna happen with Kerry or Edwards at the top of the ticket and McAwful in charge of the DNC.
That's a losing team that will lose miserably just like in 2002. We'll be around to fight for Congressional Democrats who aren't afraid to stand up for our beliefs. And we'll take over the generally moribund party infrastructure while setting the stage for 2008.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:20 AM
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for the girl in your signature because she's gorgeous!;)
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:29 AM
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14. I think that the people who love Dean |
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are very interested in change. I don't see going to green or third party an option. Working thru the system can bring change. bush as far as I am concerned is a real danger.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:31 AM
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I was just thinking the exact same thing!
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:32 AM
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16. I wonder how many just won't be able to resist getting in a last 'jab'? |
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I fully expect that some vicious jerks here who absolutely HATE Gov. Dean won't pass up the opportunity to get in one last 'dig' at Howard by choosing the '3rd party' option, thereby completely distorting the TRUE proportion of that vote.
:grr:
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:36 AM
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17. Considering that a few people are still taking daily jabs at Clark, |
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Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 09:38 AM by boxster
I'd say you're probably right in relation to Dean.
Maybe it's the same people, and they're just disruptors!
:thumbsdown:
Edit: that being said, there are quite a few Dean supporters on DU who have been quite open about the fact they will not vote for Kerry if he wins the nomination, so the anti-Dean, out of spite, vote might not be as high as you would think.
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Wed Feb-18-04 09:39 AM
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to get a "last dig" in at these supremely irritating polls.
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Wed Feb-18-04 10:42 AM
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Wed Feb-18-04 10:20 AM
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20. I chose write in Dean. |
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Because it is what I am going to do.
The people of this country deserve someone like Bush, and that includes the people here. Enjoy it.
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Wed Feb-18-04 10:14 AM
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19. I plan on voting for the DEM nominee in the GE |
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But Dean still gets my vote in my primary on March 2. Been waiting over a year to pull the lever for Dean.
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Wed Feb-18-04 10:22 AM
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21. I think Dean is a tragic figure... |
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He was betrayed from within. Joe Trippi and especially Steve Grossman set him up to drain the energy of the Netroots into one vehicle, ripped him off and ran the "movement" into a brick wall! Remember Ross Perot? Where is his movement today? Perot was all about draining the anger rampant at the time into a box that could be disposed of...and an establishment candidate won-Bill Clinton.
Remember Bill? The democrat that gave us welfare reform-an almost complete gutting of the program-and Nafta? Remember the phrase, "only Nixon could go to China"? The whole system is corrupt and we really, really need a third party to keep the two establishment parties honest. But not now. We are over a barrel. Bush has got to go. People are dying and the Constitution is under assault.
The Greens? Get real. Have you read their platform? They exist to attract highly principled, highly motivated, highly intelligent people to "The Cause", in order that they may spend their days working furiously in utter futility. A vote for the Greens or Nader is a vote for Bush. Period.
All of this energy-netroots, green, fiscal conservatives, govt. minimalists, anti-WTO, anti-empire, etc...are not necessarily mutually exclusive currents and could be combined into a truly powerful political synthesis. And should someone put the whole thing together, I will be a part of it, in 2006.
I'll vote for Dean in the primaries and the Democrat in the fall.
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Wed Feb-18-04 11:10 AM
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24. 99 percent of Dean Democrats will vote for the nominee |
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They just don't write about it on Internet message boards. And remember, according to the Dean campaigns own rhetoric, many Dean supporters would vote third party or not vote at all if he isn't the nominee.
Keep those two fact in mind as you read these posts.
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Wed Feb-18-04 11:12 AM
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26. if it will not help * |
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i will vote green, after a lifetime as a loyal dem. i think * will be far, far behind here in illinois. if it is close, abb. what the party did to dean should not be forgotten.
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Wed Feb-18-04 12:54 PM
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27. I like Dean, Edwards, and Kerry but I'll vote for the nominee |
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Wed Feb-18-04 12:59 PM
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It was always about dean, not the Democrat party. And then there were none! ” JAFO”
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Wed Feb-18-04 01:07 PM
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29. Didn't vote, cause I don't know yet. |
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If Kerry wins the nomination then panders to the right-wing, I'll vote third party for sure, or just sit it out.
If Kerry and the party come out strongly in favor of provisions to protect American jobs and can prove to me that they aren't in the pockets of corporations, then I'll happily vote for him.
I don't see that happening though.
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Wed Feb-18-04 01:21 PM
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30. I am not voting for more of the same, I can tell you that |
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Unless Kerry starts hitting some of my issues, I won't be voting for him.
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Wed Feb-18-04 01:23 PM
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31. The third party vote gets bigger with each time we are asked... |
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Maybe if ya'll quit asking, you'd quit pissing us off.
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Wed Feb-18-04 01:28 PM
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32. Yes, I'll vote for the eventual Democratic nominee |
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Bush wouldn't get my vote if he was the only person running. I want my country back and out of the hands of the present administration.
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