bigdarryl
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:50 PM
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Can I ask a very serious question? Why is there a primary if Hillary is the nominee already |
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 04:52 PM by bigdarryl
Just asking because looking at the website and the news media the race appears OVER so why waste a vote. I heard Laura Ingram today say quote: that race(democratic)is OVER!!!
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:53 PM
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1. According to bu$h she will not win the election anyway |
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 04:53 PM by liberal N proud
So I guess we shouldn't even have the election.
Point: They can say the winner will be ________ all they want but IF our votes count and are counted fairly and completely she may not necessarily be "The Candidate"
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:53 PM
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2. Interestingly Ted Rall embraced this in 2004 when Dean was ahead in the polling. |
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My own feeling is that while Hillary has done very well so far and is in good position to get elected the nominee, the voting hasn't happened yet.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:10 PM
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19. Dean supposedly had it "wrapped up" in Jan of '04 |
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There are several articles written then that questioned why even continue the primary nonsense. Here's just one: http://www.tnr.com/primary/index.mhtml?pid=1153
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:16 PM
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23. Ummm the article you cited has little to do with that. |
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 05:16 PM by rinsd
But I am certainly aware of a few people talking about skipping the primaries because of Bush's enormous warchest, Ted Rall is probably the most famous of them. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_km2912/is_200312/ai_n6903715
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Tue Sep-25-07 04:45 AM
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38. Sorry I was in a hurry |
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My cat was begging to go outside to do you-know-what and that took priority.
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:54 PM
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Then there is no need holding an election for POTUS in 2008. If Hillary is the Democratic candidate the Dems just handed the White House to the rethugs.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:01 PM
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11. I Agree & Won't Campaign For Her! This Is Just Ridiculous And I |
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feel like I'm getting kicked out of the way! The more I hear this, the madder I get and find it to be VERY VERY suspicious!
It MORE THAN SUCKS, it UN-DEMOCRATIC too! We haven't even voted in ONE Primary yet, and all we hear is IT'S HILLARY! Makes me want to turn and run, but don't know where to run!
Why are we even having debates? Let's just say OKAY and watch the CONSERVATIVES laugh all over again!
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:54 PM
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4. Democrats in WA declared months ago they are ignoring the pres. primary results |
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So I guess it all works out. :eyes:
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:55 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 04:56 PM by stillcool47
I have little hope of electing a candidate I feel worthy of the nomination..but then I also play the lottery.
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:56 PM
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6. Because, as most people know, there is no nominee yet |
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And I don't believe this is really a very serious question.
Do you remember Howard Dean in 2004?
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:57 PM
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7. Why have a primary ? To rub it in of course. n/t |
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 05:08 PM by DURHAM D
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:59 PM
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To prove its not just name recognition! |
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Sorry...couldn't resist a joke reply.
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:59 PM
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8. You're quoting a rightwing hack, and want your question considered seriously? |
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It's a BS question, too. A RW nutjob "says" that the primary is over, and you believe it?
That says more about you than you might want to admit, there....
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:04 PM
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12. the media is also saying its Hillary |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:09 PM
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18. Your personal media, maybe. I'm not hearing that at all. NT |
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Mon Sep-24-07 04:59 PM
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RATINGS!
Now, the rest of the words...
The Cabal News Networks have to set it up as something exciting. So, my guess is that between now and then, Hillary's fortunes will wax and wane. Obama will take over...Edwards will make a speech and his numbers will bump. Temporarily. Just long enough to keep the excitement alive.
They'll make it out to be a horse race, even though they already know the winner. Hillary is the favorite now, so they'll pump her up as "the one to beat." Then the longshot will do well somewhere and the race will ratchet up. Then in the end, whew...like a Kentucky Derby race, Old Girl Hill will come from a length behind and win it after all.
IOW, Hillary WILL win. They're setting us up for that, because it's pre-ordained. But between now and November 2008, she'll lose ground, gain ground, lose ground...keep the horse race alive.
And then she wins.
It's all pre-determined.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:01 PM
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10. It's Really A Coronation |
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A chance for all peoples to reflect on her being the Alpha and the Omega... the Ying and the Yang... the Peace Queen and the War Queen...
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:04 PM
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13. Yeah, it's not as if any of the rest of us have anything to say about it. nt |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:05 PM
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14. Because the Clintons control the media |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:07 PM
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15. If I ran the 2008 election |
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I would put Hillary Clinton and Evan Bayh (I REALLY like him!) in the White House NOW so we can save the USA.
We are working really hard to losing our status as the world's superpower.
I have said for years that China will pass us by soon as well as India.
This election campaigning started far too soon. It just leaves too much up in the air for too long.
Looking forward to my choice to get some young minds running the USA.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:07 PM
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16. Hillary hasn't made a mistake yet....but it'll happen |
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it's natural. It happens to everyone.
The telling point will be how she responds to her mistake and whether Obama or Edwards can capitalize on it.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:09 PM
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17. Can I ask a very serious question of you? |
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Do you leave a game when one team is winning and your team is lagging?
Do you think a political race should be run in such a manner as to spare the tender feelings of the candidate (and his supporters) who are losing?
Do you think positive stories about candidates you dislike should not be reported so as to spare the tender feelings of you and yours?
Get real.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:11 PM
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20. She is not the nominee at present. |
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Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 05:12 PM by William769
But considering the source, I understand.
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Tue Sep-25-07 05:52 AM
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40. Promoting fear of the outsourcing of bricks? :) |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:14 PM
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21. That's why we're all going to vote Kucinich and make a statement. Right everybody? Right??? n/t |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:15 PM
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22. For the same reason we play the All-Stars Game |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:17 PM
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24. Laura Ingraham and her GOP pals would love for malcontent lefties to start pumping up |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:33 PM
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25. The race is still on. Time for Obama and Edwards to get tougher. |
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:35 PM
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26. I don't think it's a "shoe-in" and I hope people don't get lazy and |
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not participate because they think it's all over.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:40 PM
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27. Funny, nobody told me |
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Sounds like you're falling for propaganda (whether from the right or from the pro-Clintonians) designed to make you make the statement you just made.
I haven't even made up my mind who I'm voting for yet, but I'd have no problem voting for any of them in the general as our nominee.
It ain't over 'til the fat lady (or whomever) sings.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:44 PM
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28. No, but I'm sure the right fantasizes about Hillary as our choice. |
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Sorta like you, bigdarryl. Unfortunately for them, they are dreaming if they think the average American is going to buy their RW spin on the Clintons. If they were smart, they'd be pumping up the other candidates, but they aren't, so they are going to be rudely disappointed to find people comparing the Clinton to whatever loser wins the Republican primary and making a no-brainer decision next November.
But if that's who they want, they should continue to support Hillary by telling you the primary is over.
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:45 PM
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29. The media shoved Bush down our throats |
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so now they are doing it with Hillary.
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Tue Sep-25-07 05:55 AM
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41. No they didn't...the GOP stole the election.. |
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everyone hated Bush... The media and talking heads do just what you do.. Float baseless allegations as fact! That makes you no better than they are!
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Mon Sep-24-07 05:53 PM
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30. Be forewarned, when the media wants something to be true |
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it is not a good thing. Two choices if the corps are humping for Hillary. 1. They know how to beat her. 2. She is really in on the game and we can expect nothing new from her regime. I would be more comfortable with her if the media did not like her! I do not know one Repuglican who would vote for her which does not bode well for crossover voters. Sorry. I try do see what is special in her and it isn't happening for me. Peace, Kim
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Mon Sep-24-07 06:09 PM
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31. Of your theories, I choose #2. |
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Mon Sep-24-07 06:15 PM
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32. Many women will find Judy a turn off |
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Rudy's latest wife Judy just isn't my idea for a first lady. That position is important for some women voters, in my opinion. It reflects on the candidate's taste in not only women but lots of other things. How he will make choices.
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Mon Sep-24-07 06:16 PM
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33. The OP is counterfactual, so what's the point? |
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There is no Democratic nominee, and you don't kink to anyone who says there is.
Fantasize much?
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Mon Sep-24-07 06:19 PM
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34. There's no need for a primary with a Clinton on the ticket. |
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I'd vote for Roger before any R.
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Mon Sep-24-07 08:13 PM
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35. BigD does his daily afternoon drive-by on Hillary |
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...and then goes off to watch WWE wrestling in his beer-stained t-shirt, not to be heard from again until the next day's drive-by.
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Mon Sep-24-07 09:32 PM
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36. Because the facade of democracy must be maintained |
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Tue Sep-25-07 10:12 AM
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43. Bingo! ....except that now people are getting wise to the facade. |
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That will make for some interesting times in the years ahead.
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Tue Sep-25-07 01:17 AM
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37. Because she ISN'Tthe nominee already, |
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no matter what the corporate media have to say about it.
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Tue Sep-25-07 05:12 AM
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39. Because it is human nature to make predictions |
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In fact some people's jobs demand that they make predictions. When they get them right it reflects well on them. Not everyone reaches the same conclusions when making a predcition, and even when shrewd people agree on the odds for a certain outcome, long shots sometimes win anyway. Everyone knows that. So it's never over until it's over.
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Tue Sep-25-07 05:57 AM
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42. This fall is a funbag of fateful options. I wouldn't pay a whole lot of mind to |
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