So - are we going to back Hillary when she wins the inevitable nomination?

[iconocrastic]

Not intended as flame-bait.

This is truly a question that looms on the horizon.

Any and all non-hostile responses welcome.

Regards.

[babylonsister]

1. The fat lady has NOT sung, so try not to be so defeatist, k? nt

[rinsd]

2. There are several ongoing discussions about this.

No need for another thread.

[iconocrastic]

11. Obviously you don't like the way the question was phrased

But I see the icon in your post.

Funny how the Clinton backers say, "Nothing here, move on."

Isn't that how MoveOn.Org originally got it's name? Yes.

180 degree turn. LOL What a wicked web we weave.

[rinsd]

16. No, its just that someone posts a thread like this everyday.

And funny enough its Hillary supporters who get accused of thumping her inevitability when its more people like yourself looking to stir the pot.

:shrug:

[iconocrastic]

25. Sorry, but you don't know anything about me

And you're the one trying to quash an intelligent question.

This is my last response to you. I don't like to bicker with people who have an agenda and will never be convinced. Like HRC.

[rinsd]

28. Who's quashing?

Here's link to other discussions ranging the gambit fro civil to hostile.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3545623

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3545525

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3546400

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3540637

"I don't like to bicker with people who have an agenda and will never be convinced. Like HRC."

Your slip is showing :eyes:

[iconocrastic]

40. Ok, you got me. Are you the HRC campaign DU monitor?

The one in charge of monitoring the HRC threads?

LOL.

[ralphmich3]

56. 4 years of pant-suits????

can America take that???

[ralphmich3]

51. No Money, No Help from me; will work on Congress

I will focus my attention on Congress and getting more good Dems into the Senate on the House...

[Blue_In_AK]

3. I'll vote for her.

I won't actively campaign for her. I will concentrate (as I am now) on getting Don Young out of Congress and Ted Stevens out of the Senate.

[zulchzulu]

4. Three and a half months before any vote is cast...and it's inevitable?

I expect Clinton to drop out after losing in Wisconsin.

[tekisui]

42. Maybe just 2 and half months to go....nt

[zulchzulu]

46. I'm going with Iowa on January 14, 2008

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=9&d1=25&y1=2007&m2=1&d2=14&y2=2008

3 months, 20 days...

[tekisui]

52. They may all move the dates up again.

[juajen]

49. Of course, as we all know, as Wisconsin goes, so goes . . . . .

Honestly, I may just not remember, but what candidates has Wisconsin elected? I'm not trying to be argumentative, maybe their record is great. Elucidate, someone, please?

[Ninga]

5. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HER IN PRIMARY, BUT WILL STRONGLY SUPPORT HER IF SHE IS THE NOMINEE.

i think most people feel that way.

[BonnieJW]

13. Exactly.

I am hopeful for Dennis K., most of all for Gore to come in with guns flaming, Richardson, Edwards. I guess I'm one of the ABC crowd.

[iconocrastic]

45. If you don't agree with her principles, how will your support be convincing?

Won't that come across as forced?

[Mythsaje]

6. I will.

Grudgingly. Irritably. But I'll be there.

[liberal N proud]

7. If it comes to that - Yes

But the media has not absolutely won her the nomination YET!
Hopefully we all have something to say about it.

Will you support Edwards if he gets the nomination? or Obama or Kucinich?

[juajen]

44. For shame. Of course, I will.

Actually, I love all three. They're wonderful democrats.

[Dr Fate]

57. But you cant assure us the rest of the DLC wont "pull a Lieberman", can you?

I remember the last time the DLC was tested concerning party loyalty- and they failed miserably by supporting their own 3rd party candidate Lieberman (I-3rd Party) over the legit DEM nominee-Ned Lamont(D).

If Hillary loses, who is to say these same characters wont have sour grapes and lean towards a pro-Bush conservative of another party against the Liberal DEM nominee, just like they did last time?

[againes654]

8. I am a Democrat

I will vote for the democratic candidate. I am afraid that if the democrats split on Hilliary, we will loose the damn election.

[emilyg]

29. so will I.

[YOY]

9. I'd vote for her

I won't be happy that some think she is the best we can do but I'd vote for her.

Better her than whatever the Republicans throw at us.

I really want to go to the ballot booth happy.

[Dawgs]

10. I will vote for her in 2008. That is all I will ever do for someone that trusted Bush on his war.

I will never support her.

[texastoast]

12. Gimme that crystal ball

I wanna see.

[ProudDad]

14. She has not been nominated yet

If nominated, unless she drops her corporate welfare version of "health insurance", I will sit this one out...

Which is no biggie. In my state, hillary couldn't be elected dog catcher, let alone pResident...

She would bring out the repuke base like no other could...

[Connie_Corleone]

15. I'll vote for her. Who else am I going to vote for? Giuliani? Thompson?

I'm pragmatic. I wouldn't vote third party because either a Democrat or Republican will be President. So I might as well vote for the better out of the two.

My vote for her won't be enthusiastic

[ProudDad]

18. "None of the Above" (n/t)

[ShortnFiery]

17. No, I will not ever vote for a corporatist who's paid off by large corporations.

COUNTRY (stop the war profiteering/corporate stranglehold of our government) before PARTY. Always! :patriot:

[bpeale]

24. I WILL NOT EVER EITHER

[daninthemoon]

19. If...Yes

[NMDemDist2]

20. yes n/t

[jedr]

21. I'm not willing to let MSM choose the candidate;

The primary's have not happened as of yet. However, as if anyone here would back a republican.....she's still a better choice than a neocon dictatorship.

[IA_Seth]

22. **This is how I see it...

I am married to the Democratic party.

I may not always agree with "her", and sometimes when I am upset I can temporarily forget why I married "her", but when it's all said and done she is the best one for me.

Regardless of whether or not I'll support a candidate in the primary/caucus.. when it comes to election time I am loyal to the party.

[Captain Hilts]

23. It's NOT inevitable! nt

[More Than A Feeling]

26. If you don't want to sound like flamebait, don't call Hillary inevitable.

Because she isn't, but she'd like all of us to think she is.

That having been said, if she were to win the nomination, my reaction may depend on whether or not she makes me turn away in disgust by catering to beltway elitists and their bloviating about "the center."

[iconocrastic]

39. Well, it may sound like it. But this is probably the #1 question

for us to face in this election. Much as I would like to see somebody else win the nomination, none is a match for the Clinton machine. Think Barak will be VP?

[More Than A Feeling]

43. If you think that, why aren't you advocating for cancelling the primaries?

Surely they are a waste of money if "the Clinton machine" has it locked up, right? Put that way, your repetition of "She's inevitable" begins to sound awfully undemocratic, and I'm not sure even you believe it, or else you'd be calling for primary cancellation.

[Cleita]

27. Not really.

She will get my vote but nothing else.

[Carrieyazel]

She can and will be beaten. She will ruin everything we've gotten in the last couple of years

[againes654]

31. I think she will loose too

That scares the shit out of me. While I do not support Hilliary, and will NOT vote for her in the primaries, I will vote for her in the GE. There are many many that won't though, and I think that will divide the D votes, and allow the repukes to win (or steal it). Make no mistake about it, the repukes know this, and they are eating it up. Bush advising Clinton on Iraq. What a fucking joke:puke:

[Carrieyazel]

30. She is not inevitable. She was awful on the Sunday programs

and that shows what a terrible candidate she will be

She's in the 30's (20's in Iowa) in the early states (except Florida, which will be a beauty contest) and in the 30's in the most reliable national polls. (Big media polls give a high name recogniton candidate a bogus 5-10 point bounce, so I don't pay attention to them).

[redqueen]

35. Not everyone shares your opinion, though...

I couldn't even watch those sunday appearances... I did try.

But I think most here seemed to think she did very well.

:shrug:

[0rganism]

32. Hilary's better than anything the GOP is bringing to the table

Problem is, she could be the poison pill that hands congress back to the republicans in 2010.

Nonetheless, if she wins the nom, I suspect she will receive support from DUers overall. The prospect of judicial nominations alone should tip the balance in her favor.

[Nimrod2005]

33. If she runs as a Democrat, then YES!

[juajen]

47. What else would she run as, pray tell?

N/T

[Dr Fate]

61. As a member of Joe Lieberman's DLC endorsed 3rd party?

Just kidding- and of course we will support the DEM nominee more than she and the DLC ever even DREAMED of supporting Ned Lamont (D) (Hint- she and Bill didnt even show up once in CT for him- but did show up in person for Joe.)

Some groups here at DU do indeed need to be lectured about sticking to the party's nominations- but that would include the DLCers and centrists as much as anyone.

[redqueen]

34. If you don't want hostile, why use "inevitable"?

*sigh*

Yes, most of us will suck it up and get in line... despite our increasing intolerance toward corporatists / triangulators / whatever.

[truebrit71]

36. It is NOT inevitable...so therefore there is no need to worry about your question...

As for me, I will support my candidate of choice, and if they don't get the nom, I will back whomever the nom eventually is...

[Larkspur]

37. Hillary has to EARN my vote and so far she's failed

[FuJun]

38. Yes...

What other choice is there? Not voting is not an option, it's a simple-minded and selfish act. Shame on those of you who will "sit this one out" if she is the nominee, you are part of the problem.

[mod mom]

41. NO. I will hold on to my integrity and do a write-in.

[bigdarryl]

48. I'M NOT VOTING FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KEEP TROOPS IN IRAQ PERIOD I...

will vote for one of the 3rd party cadidates

[Snarkturian Clone]

50. Not gonna lie to ya

I'm not voting for her.

[silverweb]

53. IF, not when.

I will support the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be.

In the meantime...

GObama!

[Dr Fate]

54. I promise to support her as much as the DLC supported Ned Lamont (D) against Lieberman (I-3rd Party)

Just kidding- *I* wont be a traitor to the party and to the nomination process like they are- I will certainly not follow the DLC's example when it comes to party loyalty.

Lucky for them, I guess. I'd love to see them make the same pledge, but after their support of Lieberman (I-3rd Party) there is no way to believe them either way...

[AtomicKitten]

55. I don't believe in inevitability.

I see the HRC campaign as the bullboys on the left side of the aisle, but Obama is kicking her ass in the fundraising which traditionally has set the front-runner apart from the rest of the pack.

In other words, it ain't over by a long shot and I think asking for a loyalty oath is premature.

[Township75]

58. Everyone here is going to support the nominee, even if it is Hillary

There are plenty of posters who want to feel and sound important, and will tell everyone that they aren't going to vote for so-and-so, but when that person wins the nomination, and the posters whine for a bit, over time they will get behind the nominee 100%...especially after the convention.

These are the same people that said they were leaving the US after the 2k2 election and 2k4 election...and after Kerry won the nomination.

[Dr Fate]

60. Exactly- we are not the ones who were traitors to the process- that's the DLC-See Joe Lieberman(I )

It's funny to me that the DLCers and "centrists" are all about party loyalty and abiding by the nomination process-when it comes to THEIR man.

When it came to a Liberal nominee like Ned Lamont- they abandoned their party loyalty and supported a 3rd party candidate- Joe Lieberman.

Lucky for them, most folks in the DEM base wont be traitors to the party like they were.

[Cha]

59. Defeatist, Pessimistic..

Don't need it.