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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:10 PM
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John Edwards: Unlike Clinton, I learned my lesson from the AUMF - Decries IRAN War Vote today
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:11 PM
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1. So far the best part of the debate
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:13 AM
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9. I think it was.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:13 PM
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2. I completely agree with Edwards and after tonight, if Hillary is the nominee, I will not vote for
her....I'm sorry but I can't do it....even if it means a Republican for President...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:17 PM
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3. I agree with you on everything except not voting for her(and I do
know how you feel)...I could not have a rudy and or mitt for president..I think they stink a little more than her.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:20 PM
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5. That's why many of us have to work hard to make sure she ISN'T the Nominee...
I don't want it to be an election with a choice between the lesser of two evils....
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:27 PM
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7. Well I can agree to that...but that seems like all we get...
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:15 PM
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24. I realized after listening to a recent interview
and hearing her in the debate last night that I really like her on domestic issues, but her ideas on foreign policy issues, particularly Iraq and terrorism, I am not comfortable with. I had just decided I would vote for her, but I don't like her vote on the Lieberman/Kyl amendment, and I don't like what she says about keeping residual troops in for whatever reasons she claims. (I can only accept the presence of military to protect the embassy.)
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:26 AM
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14. Think of the Supreme Court
In the next few years there will be at least one, and probably three vacancies, all by liberal justices.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the left will help Bush fulfill his "legacy" of a court full of Scalias and Thomases?

You can kiss good bye to all the safeguards that we still have on freedom of speech, on freely posting on DU with no fear of being jail (in spite of what many on DU claiming our is a "fascist country") and, of course, you can say good bye to freedom of choice.

The Supreme Court has always been in the balance, starting in 1988, I think, however with 11 nominations by Republican presidents, this one is the most crucial one.

And if you don't care about the Supreme Court, than nothing else matters because whatever is important to you will be irrelevant and lost forever before the 2012 elections.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:48 AM
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15. Your right....And I really don't want to have to vote holding my nose anymore (have done it too many
times - Feinstein is an example). I don't want a Scalia Court and I do care.

But before I have to go there (voting for Hillary) I will work hard to get someone else nominated as the nominee for President from the Democratic Party.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:57 PM
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20. Great. DU is a marvelous arena for people to
work on behalf of their candidates, and their ideas, and, yes, even trashing others.

And I understand your dislike to vote while holding one's nose... I actually did this in 1992 when voted for Clinton..

But come November, the Supreme Court will the the only issue and I hope that all of us, Democrats and Independent and even moderate Republicans will remember this.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:10 PM
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23. So right
That was what was disastrous about our not winning the 2004 presidency. I think the run-of-the-mill voter doesn't consider these things.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:29 PM
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25. If more people voted for what was right for our country,
we could beat this and be in a better position. For some reason when people make a stand and say they wont vote for her if she is the nominee, they are chastised. If more people had a conscience and thought about what could happen to our future if we vote the wrong person in, we could have a democrat in office that we wanted, not one that the media and the corporations want. What would happen if people opened their eyes and made a compromise and the polls showed her losing? The way it looks, the Clinton supporters think that all democrats should compromise and vote for Clinton so we have a democrat in office but they wont even compromise now, knowing that she hurts our chances at getting in office. They refuse to budge its their candidate or bust. This is a stupid way of choosing a president when our country is in a crucial time in its history.

The democratic nominee will be the next president, so why do we take who the media gives us? In my opinion, Dennis Kucinich has been the loudest voice for the people in these campaigns, constantly fighting the corrupt system. Who else has in to the floor in defense of our constitution? Who else has went to the floor wanting investigations into the Hunt oil scheme in Iraq? Who else has went to the floor to repeal the patriot act? Who else wants non profit health care for all? It goes on and on with him and I don't see front runner Clinton standing up and doing shit for the people.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:18 PM
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4. I am sick of that laugh, she uses it to dodge a question. Great leadership there
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:41 PM
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8. I've Commented On That Laugh Many Times... It IRKS Me... And
Edwards really did politely state what he thought about HER vote today! That answer SHOULD get some play, but WILL IT??

MSM, has Hillary on their mind! She's NOT doing well tonight, at least not for me. Seems Gravel with some of his "bombs" look better than she does.


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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:12 AM
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19. And you can bet the repugs will use that laugh against her
Playing it over and over with tweaked sound tract to make it sound like the laugh of a crazy person.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:21 PM
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6. He should have said.... "I learned my lesson from the AUMF, with this Iran vote today, Clinton .....
"I learned my lesson from the AUMF, with this Iran vote today, Clinton demonstrated that she can still be fooled"

That sound clip would have been on the air for months... MONTHS
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:25 AM
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13. That might have gone the wrong way though
Knowing what the media did with the Scream. What he said has bite without being too harsh.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:18 AM
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10. thumbs up for Edwards
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:19 AM
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11. That was a good answer. n/t
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:19 AM
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12. That was the most brilliant move made
He effectively took a vote the media mostly ignored and hung it around Clinton's neck like an albatross.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:52 AM
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16. He did well.
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JimboDem Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:56 AM
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17. Well Done, Edwards.
Keep it up.
:patriot:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:06 AM
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18. This was it. Edwards did it. Got my vote if Al doesn't jump in pretty qiuck.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 10:09 AM by autorank
It will take until 2013. FUCK ANYONE RUNNING FOR OFFICE WHO SAYS IT WILL TAKE UNTIL 2013 TO GET OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ...

Here's the nasty little not so secret fact - both Hil and Bar were mouthing this theme 'well it could take 12 to 24 months to leave iraq' - that was five, six weeks ago. now they've take the 24 months, the high end and doubled. THANK YOU BOTH, I LOVE THE TRUTH AND YOU JUST SHOWED YOUR TRUE COLORS.

Bought, sold, shipped COD to the citizens of this great country who are about to get another screwing if we don't get the hell out.

And GOOD GRIEF, the Iraqi's want us out.

ON EDIT: If any of you Edwards supporters want to give me grief for saying Edwards wasn't a good choice because he voted for the Iraq resolution, take a number. I'm in a repenting mood. He stood up on IRAN! Damn, I want him just madder than a hornet...I know he has it in him.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:01 PM
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21. Well at least he's not hiding behind his wife when on the attack anymore.
Though I still don't understand an Presidential campaign that essentially repudates both his Senate career and his 2004 run.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:08 PM
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22. I thought that was a good remark by Edwards
I'm swinging back to favoring him over the others again. I'm also looking at Dodd or even Biden with more seriousness.
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