Clinton and the War in Iraq

[fedupfisherman]

What is up with Hillary not firmly committing to pulling troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan?

[BootinUp]

1. Her position is no different than Edwards and Obama

unless we want to argue semantics.

[Ninga]

3. self delete dupe

[Ninga]

4. Edwards SAID he would draw down all COMBAT TROOPS, and only leave in a

peacekeeping force to protect the embassy and the humanitarian workers.

His policy was clear, he would draw down all COMBAT TROOPS.

[BootinUp]

5. But he wouldn't commit to

having them all out by 2013.

Also, I missed the part where Clinton said she would keep combat troops in there. She said counter-terrorism against Al-Qaeda and I don't remember what else.

[Sparkly]

6. I think that's what she said -- an "if"...

Like if necessary, some troops against Al Qaeda, but not the civil war.

[2rth2pwr]

8. he would expose those troops left to slaughter,

then what?

[BootinUp]

10. the drawdown needs to be done right for sure. n/t

[jmp]

2. I don't want our troops pulled from Afghanistan.

As far as Iraq ... I'm starting to wonder if any Democrat is truly committed to ending that war anytime during the next decade.

[FlaxieB]

7. She never intended to pull troops out.

She believes in this stupid war in Iraq. Thar's why she won't apologize for her Iraq war vote. If she's elected, the war continues, soldiers will continue to get killed/wounded and money will be wasted. Plus she won't be able to muster any support from other nations, which will fall on Bill to do her dirty work. But Iraq is too hot for other countries to engage so Bill will have no impact. I never believed in her "when I'm elected, I will end this war" bullshit. She just says that to pander to voters.:thumbsdown:

Also remember when she said in a previous debate. "you don't let others know what you're thinking"? She slipped tonight.

[BootinUp]

9. What good is an apology?

oops I'm so sorry. Is that Presidential material? Frankly I don't want another flip flopper campaign to live through. The blame lies with Bush for ordering out the UN and calling their inspections worthless when they clearly were not.

[wtmusic]

12. An apology demonstrates humility and confidence in one's self

The lack of one tells me that Hillary has neither.

[BootinUp]

14. I disagree on your black and white view there

Both can be a demonstration of confidence, depends on the explanation and whether it holds water. I have no problem with Hillary's explanation for the vote and the no apology.

[wtmusic]

16. None of their explanations hold water

Give the president a blank check to start wars, with zero oversight? There isn't enough bad intel in the world to justify that turd of a bill. At least Edwards admitted it was a mistake. Hillary's lack of self-confidence and lack of humility won't let her do the same.

[BootinUp]

17. Did the bill restart

the UN inspections and make Sadaam compliant with them? Yes it did. Did the country demand UN inspections and a tough stance from the congress? Yes it did. Edwards apology smacks of a hollow gesture to the left, just like all his other policy reversals from '04. We can hand wring over a vote on a resolution that was misused by Bush that Bush made false promises to get or we can deal with what is happening now and will happen in the future as a result.

[wtmusic]

18. Well it was certainly worth it now, wasn't it?

The bill got Saddam compliant and enabled the worst foreign policy disaster in US history. Now there's a deal. I bet every one of those million dead Iraqis could have seen the value of that trade. And the fact that Hillary bowed to public pressure is supposed to qualify her to lead the country out of this mess?

Bah.

[BootinUp]

19. I just don't put the blame for it

where you do. In fact I believe when the left does that they are helping justify Bush's war. Read the resolution again, there where conditions that were not met. We should not hang this war on the Democrats, none of them would have ordered the UN out in March of '03 so they could drop bombs. As you also know the Amendments from the Democrats failed to pass that would have forced him to come back for the authorization after the inspections.

[emilyg]

11. Probably same thin g as Obama and Edwards.

[illinoisprogressive]

13. What's up? say NEOCON

[madeline_con]

15. She's a Repug in a Dem suit?

Did I win?