IMO, Obama has reached that point where knows he cannot win or realizes he is not

[CK_John]

ready for the job. He now must decide to pretend or get out gracefully. I think he will drop out within the next week or two.

[killbotfactory]

1. I'll bet you one million dollars he doesn't drop out within the next week or two

[Ellen Forradalom]

2. Why do you think that?

On what evidence do you base that assertion?

[CK_John]

11. No evidence, just my opinion and 50 yrs of following the primaries.

[Mojorabbit]

35. I thought

he was outraising Hillary this quarter again? Or maybe I read it wrong. Only on my first cup of coffee.

[illinoisprogressive]

3. bwahahahaha. why in world would you say that????

[ElizabethDC]

4. Yeah, um, that's obviously not happening. nt

[KingFlorez]

5. I'm not sure where you get that from

Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part.

[MalloyLiberal]

6. No he won't. He's running for vice President

[Ethelk2044]

32. Your full of it. He will be President. He is not running for VP although Hillary supporters wish

he was

[saltpoint]

7. Strong Edwards supporter here, but also an admirer of Senator Obama.

He's second in line in current polling -- not a bad place to be at all -- and there's a buck or two in the cookie jar for a rainy day this fall.

Barack Obama stays in the race and places ahead of HClinton in Iowa.

[youthere]

38. I think Edwards is going to win Iowa.

[saltpoint]

51. Very possible. He's well-liked there with good organization.

a poll released today showed the "top 3" Dems bunched closely together.

It's going to be a barn-burner, and I wouldn't count Gov. Richardson or Sen. Biden out at all.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Sooner rather than later, the peace Democrats will have to coalesce around one anti-Hillary

candidate, or else we will still be in Iraq fighting a losing battle at the end of Hillary's second term. And God knows how many Israeli crimes will Hillary condone between now and then.

[Hardrada]

24. Exactly. we will have no peace with that woman.

[Apollo11]

29. I don't see it happening

I don't see all of Edwards and Kucinich's supporters suddenly switching to Obama just because he has the most support according to all the national polls.

Most of Edwards' and Kucinich's supporters are convinced that their guy is better than Obama.

I also think it's wrong to think in terms of looking for an "anti-Hillary".

We need to look at each candidate's strengths. "Not Hillary" is not a strength.

[Clintonista2]

9. I give him slightly longer than a week, probably 2-3 IMO

[killbotfactory]

16. I'll bet you a million dollars he doesn't drop out within the next month

hell, the next two months, even.

[Ethelk2044]

33. Your opnion does not count. Obama will beat Hillary hands down

[Clintonista2]

37. Uh huh, time to take your meds again!

:rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

10. Did you read that in a fortune cookie or something?

Or did you make it up all by yourself?

[Clintonista2]

12. Please stop engaging in gutter politics

Your unpleasantness is not a secret anymore.

[AtomicKitten]

13. Um, this thread IS gutter politics which explains why you are defending it.

See how that works?

[Clintonista2]

14. Discussing the probability of Obama dropping out is "gutter politics"?

And discussing senate voting requirements is also "gutter politics"? Sounds to me like "gutter politics" to you is anything that doesn't explicitly praise Obama.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Your candidate can't win on the issues so all you have are cheap shots.

It's all you've got and too bad if being called on it makes you cranky.

[Ignis]

44. Wow.

Must the smallest attempt at political analysis be countered with an ad hominem attack on the poster?

*checks URL* Hmm, it still says DU...

:shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

48. You are confusing a political hatchet job for analysis.

HRC supporters love to play bait and switch, slamming Obama for not voting on the pre-Iran invasion measure when HILLARY VOTED YES on it, slamming Obama for cosponsoring legislation along with almost 70 others INCLUDING HILLARY regarding Iran a few years back, and the hypocritical hits keep on coming.

You are confusing a cheesy hypocritical political hatchet job on Obama for "political analysis."
Gotta wear hip boots around here sometimes.

[Ignis]

49. Point taken.

I attempted to take the OP as independent analysis, rather than as an anti-Obama / pro-HRC lob. (I thought this was more of a riff on Michelle Obama's assertions that they needed to win Iowa.)

Having done a little more research into the posting histories involved, I'm no longer quite so inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

[AtomicKitten]

50. all this nonsense just keeps us from discussing substantive issues

Thank you for your open mind; I appreciate it more than you know. It is really frustrating trying to debate issues when people keep us knee-deep in this kind of nonsense.

[dionysus]

21. dear god you must on crack to say that with a straight face, lol

hahahahaha

[CK_John]

15. Just my opinion as stated, based on observation of his campaign. n/t

[Steve_in_California]

17. Obama is burying himself by trying to maintain his independant image.

He needed to get his butt onto the floor of the senate like everyone else. This guy is finished!

[Desertrose]

20. My sense is he just doesn't have the chops to handle the job

Sorry.... would be nice if he did, but don't think he has the experience yet. Give him a few more years....

[Sapphire Blue]

23. His 'I was against the war in Iraq' spiel, when he wasn't in the Senate to actually VOTE on it,

... rings rather hollow now that he has the opportunity to vote, but declines to show up to do so.

[2rth2pwr]

28. You made that point very well.

That's exactly how I wish I could have said it.

[killbotfactory]

30. Do you also think it rings hollow when Edwards decries votes in the Senate

while being powerless to vote either way on them?

[Sapphire Blue]

40. No, why would it? He is telling us how he would vote, unlike Obama, who avoids telling us...

... how he will vote and/or avoids actually voting.

[killbotfactory]

45. Obama was telling people he was against the war

but you dismiss that.

You have a double standard.

[Sapphire Blue]

47. I didn't dismiss that; I addressed it in post #23. Why don't you address his avoiding...

... stating how he will vote, or his avoiding voting?

[illinoisprogressive]

18. CK, sounds more like Wishful thinking more than anything. Obama is doing just fine.

[CK_John]

22. Not really, he has run a good campaign, but I don't think he is ready. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

25. I hope Obama FULLY supports Edwards as he promptly pulls out of the race. That way we have a chance

of winning against the Corporate MI M$M's darling, one each, HRC. :thumbsup:

[Ethelk2044]

43. Obama will not be the one pulling out of the race.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. He Has A Ton Of Party

He isn't going anywhere...

[jillan]

27. Wrong - He is Oprah's candidate.

and she is a powerful woman.

No free car for you CK!

[Ethelk2044]

31. Your Opinion does not mean anything Edwards should drop out

[Clintonista2]

39. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, either

You lost credibility long ago

[zanne]

34. You're hallucinating.

He won the debate last night, hands down.

[Froward69]

36. your wrong, Biden won

Biden is pissed off I don't blame him. Biden showed restraint. Obama on the other hand is burned out and will eventually bow out. vice i can see for Obama but not the top job. Biden won last night hands down. Biden looked the most presidential of all of them.

[jenmito]

41. Keep dreaming!

:hi:

[rinsd]

42. WTF? Drop out within a week? He's sitting on nearly $90M in donations!

[Colobo]

46. What a sad thread. The fact that Obama is getting so much heat from

Hillarites is telling: They know Hillary's performance last night sucked.

[ileus]

52. He's running for VP now and he knows it.

[Colobo]

53. President Obama, Jan 09. Wait and see.

[AZBlue]

54. Huh? Did I miss something? Was there some huge revelation about Obama that I missed?

Like he eats puppies??????

:wtf: