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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:58 AM
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Those Darned Illegal Immigrants.....
Cunning Plan: Check
Pass a Law: Check
Criminalize Behavior: Check
Ruin Local Economy: Ch...Wait! What?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/nyregion/26riverside.html


For the record: I think that, somehow, the burden on the states infrastructure needs to be addressed. But I can see why, in desperation, many people come to this country; illegally or not.

If things keep headed in the current direction, there might be people leaving this country in desperation.....




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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:07 AM
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1. You just can't get the sheep to think. n/t
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:12 AM
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2. We love to call ourselves
a "Nation of laws." So we either are, or we aren't. If the immigration laws aren't good enough, then change them, but that doesn't mean just ignore the laws before they are changed. We can't go after * or anybody else for breaking laws and then ignore them ourselves just because it's economically expedient.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:31 AM
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3. Hear hear!
I suggest next time you find yourself speeding, find a police officer and insist on a ticket.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:07 AM
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7. ....
:rofl:
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:44 PM
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11. And should you be robbed,
I suggest you go home and forget it since he "Probably really needed it."

Your metaphor was humorous but irrelevant to my post.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:37 AM
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5. Unjust laws are no laws at all
Martin Luther King

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:31 AM
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8. There are adequate laws on the books. National laws were developed over a decade ago.
But they are laws that go after business owners that hire illegals. So, nobody wants to enforce them. That would be bad for business and as any good fascist knows: a government enmeshed with business can't run without the money men.

The people ignoring the laws are the people that created the mess in the first place.

The only quick fix is the one being engineered right now. By killing the dollar and creating inflation or stagflation, we can drive people down into those low wage jobs out of utter neccesity.

So maybe it will work out for everybody. Right?


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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:01 PM
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9. My concern is about the new "business" of immigrant detention centers
As immigrants start to "disappear" from cities, I fear that they are STILL being used as a "cash crop" within rural communities where prisons and detentions are growing.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:30 PM
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10. Gotta get your money back somehow....n/t


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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:35 AM
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4. They are already leaving.
Illegal immigration is down. I've seen several stories to that affect her on DU and even on Lou Dobbs. The bush administration is claiming it is because ICE is cracking down. I think it is due to the very bad economy.

Since the housing slump, where did all those dry wallers, painters and other construction workers go? The illegal ones went back home to build houses there. The legal ones stayed here and got those fabulous McJobs that the US is offering. It is very common for illegal immigrants to return home when the US goes through depressions and recessions.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:06 AM
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6. Have you read stories about ICE detention centers?
Tacoma, WA: Manifestation At ICE Detention Center

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) set up checkpoints around a Lynnwood Fred Meyer store. At these checkpoints ICE was stopping everyone and checking their papers. Beyond these checkpoints they were raiding the Fred Meyer. When it was all over, ICE had detained six Latino men who are now being shipped away from their homes, families and loved ones. The checkpoints and the raids are just a small glimpse of not only what immigrants are having to deal with on a regular basis but what everyone in the US will have to deal with in the future.


Detention center economic boon for Jena

A $30 million expansion and remodeling of the now-abandoned juvenile detention center in Jena is expected to bring millions to LaSalle Parish, said Walter Dorroh, president of the LaSalle Economic Development District.

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The GEO Group announced in late July that the economic development district had signed a contract with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement for the housing of more than 1,100 immigration detainees at the LaSalle Detention Facility. Customs regional spokesman Temple Black said officials expect the new facility to have a positive effect within the agency.

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