Time magazine grades our candidates performance last nite

[jillan]

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1665991_1665990,00.html

Not too much different than our poll here.
1 - Edwards
2 - Biden
3 Clinton

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Theirs - Obama is in 2nd place.

You can read their little comments at the link.

[Doctor_J]

1. Who cares what a right-wing rag says about us?

:shrug:

[Kelly Rupert]

5. You should read it;

I think it's pretty accurate throughout.

[robinlynne]

2. what poll here? I've never seen a poll like that here to vote in, only the results.

[jillan]

3. It's down a little in GD-P

[robinlynne]

17. thanks. found it and voted. I love voting....

[Kelly Rupert]

4. If you don't want to click through, their rankings are:

John Edwards
Grade: A-

Successfully created one-on-one moments with Hillary Clinton on health care, Social Security, Iraq, and Iran. Rambled somewhat in response to a question on teaching young children about homosexuality, but came off as natural and thoughtful. Determined, focused, and patient — anyone who writes him off is making a big mistake.


Barack Obama
Grade: B+

Overcame his pre-debate head cold and spoke firmly on national security, but created little explicit contrast with the frontrunner, except for one elbow thrown Clinton's way on her health care record. Cool, smart, likeable, and on message on Iraq, health care, and change — but at times a little shaky and tentative. Far from dominating the stage, he seemed to disappear for long stretches. Some forward progress — but not much.


Joe Biden
Grade: B

Directly challenged Clinton's frontrunner status by making a strong case that her divisive image and history makes her ill-equipped to win a general election, or work with Republicans to bring about health care reform and other changes. It was the move every anti-Clinton candidate, strategist, and pundit has been waiting for. But he did it awkwardly and back-pedaled with a clarification that he was referring only to policy. Sold his Iraq peace plan as a statesman, not a firebrand. Assertively belittled Rudy Giuliani's foreign policy credentials.


Hillary Clinton
Grade: B-

As usual, maintained her composure and took every opportunity to find areas of agreement with the others on the stage, but at times came off as overconfident and shrill. Laughed that laugh (er, cackle) in response to an attack from Sen. Gravel on Iraq and an awkward question to Chris Dodd. Was good-natured and quick-witted when she found herself disagreeing with a comment from her husband about the use of torture, but wouldn't play along with Tim Russert's question on a hypothetical Israeli-Syrian nuclear program conflict, or on Social Security solvency. Did not dominate or advance on inevitability, and was slickly evasive and cautious on too many issues.


Bill Richardson
Grade: C+

Was solid, but hardly breakthrough, when contrasting himself with the frontrunners on Iraq and brandishing his impressive international experience. Had some strong, adroit answers and didn't visibly sweat or act goofy — a relative triumph compared to his past debate performances.


Chris Dodd
Grade: C

Once again failed to drive a clear message or explain his previous statement that he understands why George W. Bush would want Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee. Still no sign of a mid-course correction in campaign strategy.


Dennis Kucinich
Grade: C

Continued to hammer his unwavering opposition to the Iraq War, and promised an exit strategy. Defended his record as mayor of Cleveland and made a joke about his height. Charmingly cocky as ever.



Mike Gravel
Grade: F

Because he referenced "fantasyland" repeatedly — and because his typically antic, unfocused behavior did nothing to boost his prospects or increase the quality of the discourse — there is only one grade possible for him.

[midnight]

6. Thanks Kelly. I was wondering how Edwards was doing. I have

been leaning towards him for sometime.

[surfermaw]

7. Sounds good to me, Edwards & Biden, that is what we n eed.

[ChiciB1]

16. And I'll Add My Usual... Go, Johnny, Go! Just Finished Watching

the rerun of his appearance on MTV! Final vote was 94% approval!

NOW, IF WE can only get MSM to recognize some "reality!"

[jillan]

8. Kelly - you Richardsonites should be pretty happy today.

I just heard on Hardball how alot of Dem activists are blasting the 3 frontrunner for not saying they will get our troops out by 2013.... and that this should help Richardson because of his aggressive plan to get our troops out. There you go.
The public opinion polls can change just like that.
That's why this Biden supporter ignores the polls at this time.
You never know what tomorrow brings :)

[Kelly Rupert]

14. Heh, I'm just happy he didn't shit himself this time.

Progress is good, but he's running out of time to figure out what to do in front of a camera. It's too bad, because he'd be a great president. He just has to not look so clueless with a podium.

[jillan]

18. I really appreciate you saying that.

I am always the first to critize Biden when he acts like a pompous a--

It would be so much nicer if everyone around here would be willing to admit that their candidate is not perfect,
and they all have moments where they shit themselves ;)

[Cameron27]

19. Hey, I always think Biden wins these things :-)

(except for the one where he kind of lost it half way through)

[jillan]

20. I thought Hillary always wins

:eyes:

[Cameron27]

21. No she doesn't lol,

although I never think she does as bad as other people do. But then again, I think Gravel acts like a total nut during these debates!:hide:

... and other people lurve him lol.

[jefferson_dem]

9. But...but...Pat Buchanan and some DUers said Obama didn't do well...

How could he have possibly earned a B+? :shrug:

[jillan]

11. They also said Hillary won.

[Colobo]

10. Obama deserves a second place. He did very well. Hillary did poorly.

[Cameron27]

12. I thought Obama deserved second,

he was off his game, but not by much.

[Colobo]

13. Dude was sick, and he still looked good.

[Cameron27]

15. I could hear it in his voice,

but you're right, he looked damned good.

[Colobo]

22. Kick