USA Today: September 27, 2007
Bill Clinton 'loved' his wife's 'he's not standing here' moment
Tonight on MSNBC-TV's Countdown with Keith Olbermann, former president Bill Clinton is asked about the moment during last night's Democratic debate when Tim Russert pointed out that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton might disagree with her husband about whether it's ever a good idea to torture suspected terrorists. Sen. Clinton, who had just said torture is not permissible, said of the possible conflict with the former president that "well, he's not standing here right now." (Video clip at link.)
According to a transcript of the pre-recorded Olbermann interview that MSNBC just e-mailed to reporters, President Clinton says:
"I loved it. I thought to myself, you know, Tim Russert is a very clever interviewer, he thought that he had trapped her, and instead she made the obvious point that if she is elected, she will be the president, I won't, she will make the final call and I completely agree with her about the policy. The United States has to be against terror.
As a matter of fact, what I really was talking about with Tim Russert is what happens when 24 -– you have people watch 24, as you know. And this guy, Jack Bauer, he is always, the nuclear weapon is going to explode in five minutes and here is a guy who knows what you do.
There is a one in a million chance that happens. But the United States is against torture because it's illegal, it's immoral, it doesn't work and it makes our own soldiers vulnerable to torture.
If that ever happened, the point I was trying to make to Russert, and you or I or anybody else thought a million lives for you beating up this guy, you'd probably do it, but you should know it's against the law and you should be prepared to take the consequences.
And we shouldn't ever ask the president of the United States of America to be on the side of torture, illegal, almost always ineffective and makes our own people vulnerable to the same sort of treatment."
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