GOP silent re: Limbaugh

[SHRED]

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Got to hand it to the GOP.
They sure protect their little piggy don't they?

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Dems unite to slam Limbaugh, GOP silent
Posted September 28th, 2007 at 8:25 am


As a rule, Democrats and their allies are a little slow when it comes to organized outrage. A high-profile Republican will say or do something that most decent Americans would find outrageous, progressive blogs will call him or her on it, and maybe we’ll see a press release or two from someone on the Hill. The media yawns, the Republican in question shrugs it off, and the political world keeps on spinning.

But yesterday was unusual, in a very good way. Media Matters reported on Rush Limbaugh smearing U.S. troops who support a withdrawal policy in Iraq, calling them “phony soldiers.” The unusual aspect of what transpired was watching the left act swiftly and efficiently.

VoteVets.org’s Jon Soltz, an Iraq vet, went first: “In what universe is a guy who never served even close to being qualified to judge those who have worn the uniform? Rush Limbaugh has never worn a uniform in his life — not even one at Mickey D’s — and somehow he’s got the moral standing to pass judgment on the men and women who risked their lives for this nation, and his right to blather smears on the airwaves? … Get the point here, Rush? You weren’t just flat out wrong, you offended a majority of those of us who actually had the courage to go to Iraq and serve, while you sat back in your nice studio, coming up with crap like this.”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13034.html


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[Ganja Ninja]

1. So where are the Democrats?

They shouldn't be waiting for the Republican's to produce a resolution condemning Limbaugh. They should not only be condemning him they should kick his fat ass off armed forces radio.

[babylonsister]

2. There's a couple of videos of Dems voicing their disgust:

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=803

Also, Senator Kerry:

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/democrats_demand_...

Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show that soldiers who favor U.S. withdrawal from Iraq are "phony soldiers."


Here is John Kerry's reaction:

"This disgusting attack from Rush Limbaugh, cheerleader for the Chicken Hawk wing of the far right, is an insult to American troops. In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air conditioned studio peddling hate. On August 19th, The New York Times published an op-ed by seven members of the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division critical of George Bush's Iraq policy. Two of those soldiers were killed earlier this month in Baghdad. Does Mr. Limbaugh dare assert that these heroes were 'phony soldiers'? Mr. Limbaugh owes an apology to everyone who has ever worn the uniform of our country, and an apology to the families of every soldier buried in Arlington National Cemetery. He is an embarrassment to his Party, and I expect the Republicans who flock to his microphone will now condemn this indefensible statement."

As for the Armed Forces radio, he definitely needs to go. I hope the Dems do something noble, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Ganja Ninja]

6. Where's the Dem's resolution?

They need to get the GOP on record. Does the GOP support Limbaugh or don't they? This remark is all the reason they need to pull the Limbaugh show off Armed Forces Radio.

[Enrique]

22. not necessarily a good move

lots of very good reasons not to propose a resolution, and I hope they don't.

[jmp]

23. Mind listing them?

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[Enrique]

25. for one, they correctly called the GOP resolution phony

the GOP resolution was phony.

If the dems pass a resolution, then each of the parties will have passed a phony resolution, and this episode will have balanced out. It will be "both parties pass these phony resoultions."

If they don't pass a resolution, then the GOP will completely own their phony resolution. The dems can use this at will. They can repeatedly challenge the republicans to denounce Rush, which the republicans can't do.

What good would a phony resolution against Rush do? Suppose it passed? So what?

[ThomCat]

28. "They correctly called the GOP resolution phony"

You mean the resolution that many of them voted for? :wtf:

I think it would be a damned good idea to throw the republican's fire back at them. Let them defend Limbaugh and be declared total hypocrites. Or let them stand back and watch Limbaugh burn.

[Enrique]

31. the votes for the resolution hurts the dems

but doesn't kill them.

Despite the dems' votes, this is still a GOP resolution. They still own it. Let's not buy into it.

They can throw the republicans' fire back at them, get them to defend Limbaugh and be declared total hypocrites without a phony resolution.

One thing they can do is challenge the GOP to propose the resolution. Say to them, we didn't propose it last time, you did. Why don't you propose one now? Huh? Huh?

[ThomCat]

33. That kind of taunting stays behind the scenes.

It won't get any attention. I think GOP Hypocrisy should be made as public as possible. I think we should take every opportunity to rub their noses in it.

[Enrique]

34. Moveon.org should put an ad out

they could really run with this.

[ThomCat]

35. I think they should too.

Maybe the publicity will help them raise another $500,000 in just a few days again. :)

[CrispyQ]

45. I'd happily send them more money for an ad on this. --nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

41. the powder's not dry enough for a resolution.

and it has to be kept real dry.

[Ganja Ninja]

42. List a few of those reasons if you will. n/t

[gratuitous]

3. Actually, Democrats have been pretty vocal

But if we needed an object lesson in who has access to the major media megaphone and who doesn't, this pretty well demonstrates it.

[niceypoo]

5. They should totally blow it out of proportion...

...then use it during the upcoming election. I am willing to bet that the Move on ad will be the centerpiece of the republican presidential smear campaign next year. Since all the republicans listen to Limbaugh it would be easy to pin this on them.

[SHRED]

7. I hear ya but I suspect...

...the Dems will "play nice" and continue to lose in that arena.


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[Ganja Ninja]

8. Damn right they should.

They should be all over this. It's a gift from Limbaugh. They need to use it.

[Enrique]

30. I don't see why you are so intent on using Rush's gift against the dems

makes more sense imo to do what Jim Webb, John Kerry, Wes Clark, Howard Dean, Jan Schakowsky, and Frank Pallone, and myself, and others on DU and elsewhere, have done, and use this gift to hit the GOP over the head with.

[Ganja Ninja]

43. This is an opportunity to force the GOP into a corner.

If the Democrats could force the Republicans to condemn Limbaugh they could then push the issue of why the Limbaugh program is carried on Armed Forces Radio. That would be a real accomplishment. A few individual condemnations will quickly slide down the memory hole and be forgotten. They will accomplish nothing.

[BOSSHOG]

4. No doubt those troops bled fake blood

and the ones who died were put in fake body bags and buried in fake graves. Oh if only conservatives had consciences. How many good men died in Vietnam while limbaugh continues to sit on his fat dumbass making money because of the ignorance of his audience?

[ashling]

9. My letter to my senator (cornyn)

I just sent this of. I have never taken the time to write him before because it would have been a complete waste of time



I have never had occasion to contact you regarding any issue or proposed legislation because, frankly, your views are so different from mine on almost every issue that I felt it would not be an efficient use of my time. However, recently an issue has presented itself on which I am sure we can agree.

As a patriotic American and father in law to a soldier in the United States Army, I was disgusted at the comment made by right wing radio personality Rush Limbaugh calling many of our troops “phony soldiers.” After all, these troops were just excercising a right that they have agreed to die for, if necessary.

In light of your recent resolution regarding General Petraeus, I am sure that you agree with me that Limbaugh’s statement cannot stand. After all, this was an insult to the men and women who actually do the fighting and dying in Iraq. I know that I can count on you as my senator to do the right thing (pardon the pun) and offer a resolution to censure Mr. Limbaugh and to have his insulting program removed from Armed Services Radio.

Please let me know when you will be offering this resolution and what action you will take to have Limbaugh’s program removed from Armed Services Radio. In the alternative, please inform me why you will not take these necessary steps to preserve the dignity and honor of our military.

[CrispyQ]

14. An excellent letter.

We should all pen a similar letter to our senators & reps who voted for the Petraeus resolution. Maybe we could get that hateful windbag off the air, or at least, off the Armed Services Radio.

:thumbsup:

[Buzz Clik]

10. The Pig has become a pariah.

[MikeNearMcChord]

19. LOL!!! I bet Rush is not played very much around former

senator Jim Talent of Missouri. He got torpedoed by EL Rushbo with his attack on Michael J. Fox.

[CrispyQ]

11. The GOP are such fucking hypocrites.

Phony soldiers vs General Betrayus -- honestly, how do they look themselves in the mirror? Are they oblivious to their hypocrisy or
have they hidden behind it so long they no longer see it, like a woman who can't smell her own perfume?

[Bitwit1234]

12. Why in world are people bothering??????

You all know that the republicans still rule, even in their minority they are controlling every thing. The MAIN problem is, the media. Republicans own, television, newspapers and radio and until it is made FREE again we will never have a say in what it going on in this country. NEVER EVER.

[NavyDavy]

21. why bother lets just go hide from the big fat boogeyman......go

hide if you want but i will never give up the fight....

[SHRED]

13. His audience I suspect are:

White middle-aged males with authoritarian and persecution complexes.


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[Jeff In Milwaukee]

15. ...who never served in uniform

and have a serious guilt complex about it.

[madmom]

32. sorry have to disagree here...they don't know guilt!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

38. I stand corrected...

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[baldguy]

16. And he wasn't being critical of a political puppet like Betrayus.

He was smearing people who have been shot at & injured in combat, but who have the audacity to think for themselves and present facts.

[madrchsod]

17. but he was ! he was the first one to come up with-"Betrayus"

ko played a sound clip of limpballs from earlier this year using the name "Betrayus"

[Enrique]

29. and killed

one of the dem congressmen points out that two of the soldiers who wrote the NYT editorial were since killed.

[Adelante]

18. Mess with Rush's so-called mind

You've heard a number of times from Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org. Do you consider him a phony soldier?

According to Rush Limbaugh, Jon Soltz, an Iraq war veteran, is a phony soldier. Today, Media Matters reports that Rush Limbaugh said that those troops who come home and want to get America out of the middle of the religious civil war in Iraq are "phony soldiers."1

The question is, would Rush make these outrageous and offensive comments to Jon's face?

Take action now. Email Rush Limbaugh and urge him to invite Jon Soltz onto his radio show!

Rush Limbaugh has never worn the uniform in his life, yet he's got the moral standing to pass judgment on the men and women who risked their lives for this nation?

Polls have shown that the majority of troops on the ground in Iraq, and those who have returned, do not back the President's failed policy.

Does Rush believe, then, that the majority of the US Armed Forces are "phony?"

Major Generals John Batiste and Paul Eaton left the military and have spoken out against the Bush Administration's failed policies. These are former commanders in Iraq, and they have challenged the Administration for its stubborn refusal to listen to those commanders on the ground who have sent up warning after warning.

Does Rush believe that highly decorated Major Generals are "phony soldiers?"

Finally, recall the members of the 82nd Airborne in Iraq who wrote a New York Times op-ed, urging for a change in course in Iraq, and suggesting it was time to figure out the exit strategy. Two of them just died.

Does Rush believe these young troops are "phony soldiers?"

My challenge to you is to force Rush to invite Jon Soltz onto his show and say all of this again, right to the face of someone who served in Iraq.

Click here to email Rush now!

Democracy demands discussion, disagreement, and dissent. It is the natural expression of our freedom. To dishonor the service of our troops because they have a different viewpoint is unconscionable. Thank you for speaking out.

Sincerely,



Wes Clark

Source:
1. "Limbaugh: Service members who support U.S. withdrawal are 'phony soldiers'"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?f=h_top

email form:

http://ga4.org/campaign/rushlimbaugh

[Historic NY]

20. Kick

[Maribelle]

24. Perhaps Limbaugh would like to volunteer to test their "phony skills"? Even one.

Why, I'll bet you could not pay that widdle sissy enough to get into a ring with even one.

[ananda]

26. Yes, Limbaughtomized lunatics..

.. protect their own.

[jhain]

27. what? and lose a good worker?

[Triana]

36. Limbaugh calls troops "fake soldiers" - WHERE is the condemnation of THAT?

Huh.

"Liberal" media my a**

And repubes, well, we KNOW that pretentious hypocrisy is their hallmark. And too many dems are spineless ninnies who support them.

[Larkspur]

37. If the Repukes can slap a resolution to a bill condemning MoveOn.org, why can't Dems

slap a censure motion on another bill condemning Rush Limpballs?

The Repukes are willing to attack Dems and their allies because they view Dems as the enemy. Dems refuse to acknowledge the abuse the Repukes are doing to them.

[Fly by night]

39. NBC in Cincinnati ran a story on Limp-ball's comments. Send this link to your affiliate.

I did here in Nashville.

http://www.wlwt.com/politics/14225149/detail.html

[Fly by night]

40. Here's another in-depth local story on the Nashville NBC affiliate.

http://www.wsmv.com/politics/14225149/detail.html

I'm glad to see that our corporate media (and our Democratic spokes-critters) have switched from kool-aid to coffee. It's about G-D time (and that doesn't stand for General Discussion).

[TankLV]

44. So where's Harperisbush? He was starting posts all over the place condemning MoveOn...

strangly silent and absent now...

are we surprised?