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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:25 AM
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Clinton solidifying a lead across many fronts
Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York has not only solidified a lead among all Democrats surveyed about the 2008 presidential contest, but also claimed the majority among most of the party’s major constituencies.

In four Gallup Polls since August and September, Clinton has led Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois by an average of 22 points – 47 percent to 25 percent. Former Sen. John Edwards has held third place in these polls, with about half of Obama's level of support, while no other candidate is favored by more than 3 percent of the Democrats.

But Clinton also holds “a commanding lead among nearly every major subgroup of potential Democratic primary voters,’’ Gallup reports.

“Clinton is most widely favored among women, whites, senior citizens, core Democrats, the non-college educated, those living in low- and middle-income households, self-described conservatives, and residents of the East and West,’’ Gallup notes.

However, “she also leads Obama by smaller but still double-digit margins among most of the natural counterparts to these groups, including men, blacks, young adults, independents, college graduates, self-described moderates and liberals, and residents of the South and Midwest.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/clinton_solidifying_a_lead_acr.html
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:28 AM
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1. Who would've guessed the Democratic '08 nominee would be a Republican?
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 08:30 AM by derby378
Sorry, troops - we tried to get you out of the Middle East, but it ain't lookin' so good anymore...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:31 AM
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2. Stupidity abounds sometimes.
If you could actually hear what you were saying, you would understand. :eyes:

P.S. but thanks for the kick.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:37 AM
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Care to elaborate?
Or, in my case, enlighten? :eyes:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:38 AM
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4. To enlighten you would take a considerable amount of time
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 08:39 AM by wyldwolf
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:42 AM
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5. "Don't give up on us, baby..."
Why should I, as a Democrat, support Hillary over other candidates? That's the $64,000 question nobody seems to know how to answer. I'm serious.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:54 AM
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15. David Soul? Actually, why would anyone want to convince you to vote for her?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:56 AM
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18. Because you're gonna need all the help you can get in 2008
And you do want the White House to no longer be in the hands of a Republican neo-fascist fuckwit, right? So, get to it, already!

No snobbery, no elitism, no scare tactics. Just lay it on the line. Why should I support Hillary?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:58 AM
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19. I think she can win without your vote.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:07 AM
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23. I rest my case...
And now, off to the Lounge for a beer!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:19 AM
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25. Hillary wrapped up this nomination
more than a year ago.

You've had plenty of time to get used to her.

As to why you should vote for her, the answer is because she's the party's nominee.

She isn't my first choice, but this is the most uncompetitive race for the nomination without an incumbent I can remember, so I've had plenty of time to come to grips with my concerns. I'll be perfectly ready to vote for her in 08.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:37 AM
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3. well, at least is isn't a psuedo-socialist wannabe "prooogressiivve"
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:46 AM
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7. But how do you explain that cackle of hers?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:09 AM
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24. K & R
Go Hillary!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:46 AM
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6. Another "Opinion" article financed by the Hillary campaign
Having deep pockets from her corporate handlers helps, I guess.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:48 AM
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8. Hillary owns Gallup?
Wow, learn something new every day.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:49 AM
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9. Haven't you heard?
The Clinton's own everything!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:51 AM
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11. No, it's not that the Clintons own everything, but they do promise every DAMN thing. nt
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:02 AM
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22. As opposed to the other candidates?
I'm sure none of the other candidates make any campaign promises.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:51 AM
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12. And whatever they don't own...
they steal. I'm pretty sure they broke into my house. :)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:53 AM
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14. The fact that they will stop at nothing to glean power is the TRUE connection between the Clinton
and Bush dynasties. :scared:

STOP THEM NOW!!!
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:56 AM
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16. Yes they do. Because Bill picks up the phone and sez so. He who has the chits
picks up all the cards.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:51 AM
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10. Gallup can be bought and paid for
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 08:51 AM by itsrobert
Their bottom line is the all mighty dollar. Corporations hire Gallup for polls, if they don't give Hillary favorable numbers, the corporations will go somewhere else.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:56 AM
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17. Nice try, no sale.
Provide some proof that some corporation paid Gallup for these particular polls.

Oh, right. There isn't any.

Clinton is ahead in all of the national primary polls. Are all of those bought and paid for, too?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls

Even Rasmussen? Fox News?

All owned by the Clintons?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:58 AM
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20. Throwing pesky little facts in their faces won't do you any good.
The Kool-aid has soaked their brains.
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:52 AM
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13. She voted for the Lieberman-Kyl Amendment
So unless we all want war with Iran, then I hope more party members reconsider their vote.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:58 AM
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21. All the signs and post about Hate Hillary.
If Obama was the leader they signs all over the country would be about hating him. If Edwards or any of the other candidates were leaders it would be about him.

The republicans are so upset that Hillary (the Democrat candidate) has taken such a commanding lead over their candidates they want to try to
"NIP IT IN THE BUD". Won't happen...no matter which candidate comes out on top, we are still going to whoop ass. IF WE SMACK DOWN ALL THE STEALING SCHEMES.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:20 AM
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26. You've got that right
Every single one of our candidates is better than any one of theirs. It's the stealing schemes we have to worry about.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:11 PM
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27. Actually, the Repukes I've heard are all overjoyed...
They think that Hillary can be easily defeated by a strong Republican candidate, so they're all toasting her in private.
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