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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:52 AM
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Kucinich refuses to endorse the Democratic Speaker in her race against an Independent...


Cindy Sheehan seeking star power in campaign
By Karissa Marcum
September 25, 2007

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan is making celebrity endorsements a key facet of her long-shot bid to defeat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) next year.

In a recent interview with The Hill, Sheehan said she has been endorsed by actress Roseanne Barr, country crooner Willie Nelson and Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello.

Sheehan added that White House hopeful Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) and former Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) are also backing her.

...

Kucinich praised Sheehan, but declined to confirm that he is formally backing her.

“I like Cindy,” Kucinich said. “She has been a very important spokesperson in challenging the war. She and I marched together against the war.”

He said he doesn’t comment on races waged against incumbents as a “matter of policy.”


So it is his policy not to back the Democratic candidate against a non-Democratic candidate...interesting



http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/cindy-sheehan-seeking-star-power-in-campaign-2007-09-25.html
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:54 AM
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1. Rather, his policy seems to be not to take a side in this one.
We take from our reading what we want.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:56 AM
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2. I want a Captain Midnight decoder ring too!!!!
"So it is his policy not to back the Democratic candidate against a non-Democratic candidate...interesting"

No, it's his policy not to comment on races waged against incumbents.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:03 PM
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3. A Democrat's matter of policy should be to the defend elected Democrats from outside party attacks.
Sheehan is an Independent. She could have run as a Democrat, but she decided to do the Nader thing instead.

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:05 PM
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13. Like Lieberman?
Hmmm?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:30 PM
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16. Lieberman was challenged in the Democratic Primary by a Democrat.
Not by an outside Independent like Sheehan.
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:48 PM
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25. But then he ran as a Third Party candidate in the general election...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:30 PM
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27. Yes. Liberman did.
Most of us here supported the Democrat in that race.

Fuck third party candidates.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:09 PM
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4. Wow....an endorsement from Roseanne Barr...Words fail me..n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:04 PM
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12. Wow. Who wouldn't want an endorsement from Roseanne? Snark!
Words fail me as well!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:20 PM
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5. And that's a problem because...?
I didn't realize that all Democrats were required to endorse one another.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:25 PM
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7. Well given the uproar around here when Democrats were endorsing Lieberman...
Last year...with accusations of them not supporting the Democratic candidate..one would think the same standard would be applied...

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:03 PM
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11. Because Lieberman was a traitor to the Party.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM
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15. As Kucinich will be if he refuses to endorse Pelosi against Sheehan...nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:31 PM
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17. I don't think he has to endorse anyone.I think if he endorses Sheehan he would be traitor but
he is NOT endorsing Sheehan. He just isn't endorsing anyone.That is a big difference. This just proves Sheehan overstepped herself, again.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:49 PM
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20. So if a republican endorses a democratic candidate......
because they feel the party is going in the wrong direction, they are traitors also? We always seem to think that they are courageous.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:59 PM
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21. Double standard? Hey does anyone admire Zell Miller? I don't.
A Republican who endorses Democrats isa traitor to his own party.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:13 PM
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35. Traitors to THE PARTY
That's why we like Republican traitors and don't like Democratic traitors.

But we aren't talking about state-level treason, just party stuff. Big difference.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:24 PM
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6. Seems to me like Kucinich is plalying politics.
You know that little thing others are always blamed for doing.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:36 PM
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8. A politician playing politics?
Say it isn't so! :eyes:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:48 PM
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9. Why should he get a pass and not the others?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:01 PM
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10. And Dennis proves he is not crazy! And Cindy states an apparent untruth.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:09 PM
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14. It is, and always has been his policy to do the right thing. Even when it costs him personally
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 01:12 PM by greyhound1966
and professionally. I know this concept is a completely foreign concept to you and the other Hillbots, but it is what made this country great once.

He is a representative of The People, and supports the party when the party's goals coincide with those of the people, not the opposite as it is with most of our current "leaders".

It is worth noting that he has not endorsed Cindy either, that's as much of a compromise as you are ever going to get from him.



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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:44 PM
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18. It is not just worth noting, the point is he did NOT endorse Sheehan.
and Cindy is not stating a fact.He is not supporting her.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:45 PM
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19. I'm admiring Dennis Kucinich more and more with each passing day.
Dennis Kucinich + his lovely wife :loveya:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 02:20 PM
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22. Bravo Dennis! Shame on you, Nancy!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:01 PM
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23. Looks like he's putting...
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 03:01 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
principles before party to me. Nothing to be ashamed of. :shrug:

I will be looking at what Cindy has to say and offer before I vote.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:16 PM
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36. Yes, when Dennis does something, it's based on principles
But other candidates are just playing politics or being phony or whatever.

I hate the Dennis Kucinich double-standard where he gets to do what other politicians cannot and gets called courageous and principled in the process.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:20 PM
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24. um-
"...endorsed by actress Roseanne Barr, country crooner Willie Nelson and Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello."\


I wouldn't be bragging about the support of any of those people.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 05:14 PM
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26. Original thread on this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3557539

Spokesmen for Barr and Morello did not return phone calls seeking comment. Kucinich praised Sheehan, but declined to confirm that he is formally backing her.


Integrity check at checkstand 9... Integrity check at checkstand 9...

BTW... if someone wanted RATM's cred to back them, wouldn't they want de la Rocha's support?
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MetalCanuck Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:01 AM
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28. Impeachment is off the table, there is you're answer.
Kucinich wants it ON the table.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:10 AM
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31. No, Kucinich doesn't want impeachment on the table
He wants it off the table so he can complain about it not being on the table. If he was serious about impeachment, he'd be schmoozing a bit with Pelosi instead of rubbing shoulders with loose cannons like Sheehan and McKinney.

He votes against SCHIP because the plan isn't perfect enough for him... so he'd rather get nothing instead. So he votes the Bush line with all the republicans.

He votes to sustain Bush's veto of the Iraq supplemental bill because it didn't set an early enough date for withdrawal. So he votes the Bush line with all the republicans.

Kucinich's stock in trade is making the perfect the enemy of the good. That's why he's an ineffective legislator and would be a disastrous president.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:58 AM
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34. "making the perfect the enemy of the good"
As opposed to the others, who prefer to make the mediocre (or in some cases, just plain bad) the enemy of the good.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:54 AM
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29. I will totally VOMIT if Dennis gets the nomination. I will quit the Democratic Party.
Not really. I just wanted to talk like an anti-Hillarite.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 07:11 AM
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30. Dennis supports elected Republicans as well. Dennis is a friend and supporter of
Ohio Congressman Steve Laurette - R

You know who LaTourette is....he is the congressman who cast the last and passing vote for CAFTA.

Dennis refused to endorse Case Western University Professor Lew Katz, who opposed LaTourette in 2006


Katz, a Law Professor and Constitutional Scholar, was an anti-war candidate.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:10 AM
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32. It's obviously his policy not to endorse either.
If you have beyond 2nd or 3rd grade reading comprehension, anyway.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:31 AM
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33. Reciprocity.
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 11:32 AM by mmonk
He has the right to stay neutral if he wants.
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