Hillary should be where she is in the polls because she is at the top of the

[Ninga]

list in name recognition.


She has had 15 years of media exposure.

15 years of free media
15 years of being known every where in the world, by her first name
15 years of being the topic of discussion at every GOP ward meeting
15 years of crafting her message, and being in the right place at the right time



Yet, Edwards and Obama have been able to keep it close, and in some polls, within striking distance.

It is my opinion that she has peeked and she may yet get toppled.

[antigop]

1. Marketing 101: "we often know brands simply because advertisers want us to."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3552757&mesg_id=3553502

[gateley]

7. EXCELLENT! nt

[antigop]

20. There's a reason Time Magazine referred to the Clinton "brand" n/t

[rinsd]

12. With Obama as New Coke!

[SaveElmer]

2. Explain then...

How she has gone up in the polls as her opponents have increased their name recognition...

If what you say is true her lead should be shrinking

[Ninga]

14. That is your conclusion not mine. My point is that 15 years is a mighty long time

for the world to be on a first name basis with the woman.

Just because people know her, who she is, and what her name is DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL VOTE FOR HER.

Her name recognition is the biggest and best thing she has going for her.

The next debate will be important, because viewers will be watching to see if she is able to counter punch.

But Edwards is smart, is pacing himself, and displayed strength without being condescending. Second place or even third place in this horse race positions him to win by a nose.

[rfranklin]

16. She also has very high negatives...people hate her viscerally...

not because they have any good reason to do so. Yet, they still hate her. My business partner is a perfect example of that. Doesn't know why, but she hates Hillary.

[Ninga]

19. I cringe at the word "hate". I dearly wanted to support her, but dislike her

approach and thinking so much, that I shy away from supporting her.

It is NOT enough that she is a woman, and smart.....it goes deeper than that, and I can not 'splain myself.

Additionally, she is way too hawkish in my view, and I would say that although she is experienced, she does not illuminate in the way a natural leader does.

[juajen]

31. I have it on good authority that she is hated by some because

she forgave Bill. It would have been better if he had had regular sex with Monica; because, as you know, pugs don't do oral sex. Do you really want to side with people who have never had great sex? I was told this by my very upright and uptight repuglican sister, who I still love very much. She had not one legitimate reason for hating Hillary. Fortunately, she would have never voted for a democrat anyway; so, her vote is not a loss to the us.

[daninthemoon]

3. No matter the polls, no matter how sure the pundits, we are still

MONTHS away from a single vote being cast. The twists and turns haven't even started yet. Remeber Howard Dean?

[Old and In the Way]

4. You make a good case to vote for Hillary.

In spite of 15 years of Republican hatred and attacks, she's still #1 in the polls. A mere mortal would have crumbled under that focus.

[MessiahRp]

8. Yes because she's immortal

:eyes:

Rp

[ShortnFiery]

9. Yeah someone who's capable of owning a conscious - HRC and * have that in common.

Zero Accountability. :(

[ShortnFiery]

5. If the whores in the corporate media drool over HRC any more, we may not get to vote.

Both the M$M as well as the lion's share of the political ruling class have already anointed HRC. :thumbsdown:

[gateley]

10. We'll bring them to their knees. We can do it. nt

[ShortnFiery]

15. Yes, I hear you! God willing and Diebold not pre-programmed.

The more they laud HRC, the more willing I am to shag my butt to the polls and VOTE. :hi:

I would love to see some of those disgustingly self-satiated democratic strategists' faces when *their candidate* doesn't win as THEY ORDERED US LITTLE PEOPLE TO DO.

That would be sweet! :-)

[gateley]

27. If you're so inclined, don't forget to shag your butt to the Primary, too. nt

[rinsd]

6. That would make sense except Obama & Edwards name recognition have gone up

And yet the polls have not changed.

[movonne]

13. Wow that's a lot of logic....

[rinsd]

22. If Clinton's lead is pure name recognition, then when her opponents NR rises, the lead should shrink

It has not. Instead she has a larger lead now then when she was dominating Edwards and Obama in name recognition.

[Ethelk2044]

11. You are not the first person who has said this and will not be the last. I agree with you

[William769]

17. How many polls are they keeping it close in?

Who has run On a Presidential ticket so far?

Who has been the media darling for the past couple of years before he decised to run for President?

[Kelly Rupert]

18. Closest poll I've seen in the last month was 14 points. What are you looking at?

[rinsd]

23. I think that reference is to state polls vs national heats (nt)

[MethuenProgressive]

21. "15 years of free media" 15 years of anti-Clinton propaganda - for free!

another HateHill flamebait thread, nothing more...

[Ninga]

26. I do not hate Hillery, I do not favor her. And any media, negative or otherwise,

advances name recognition far and beyond any other method in existence.

Ask any person in the world who Hillary Clinton is, and I would guess in those countries that have mass media, she is known.

By that measure, she should be ahead in the polls.

[gateley]

28. Ahhh. I get it. Good point. If I'm asked which laundry detergent I prefer, Tide or

DewDrop, I'm going to say Tide because I've heard of it. So my response goes into the "prefers Tide" column. Excellent point!

If I'm not following the candidates but have heard the hoopla surrounding Clinton, Edwards and Obama, I may say "Clinton" because I've heard/read that she's a lock.

Thank you for clarifying it for me.

[Ninga]

34. I am glad you got my point. Now take your mic out onto the street and play like you

are Jay Leno.........and ask lots of smart questions. Do this several million times, and then report back your findings.

[FlaxieB]

24. That's the only reason she there. Also married to Bill.

She married into this position of privilege. No marriage to the ex-Prez, 3d tier candidate. period.

[juajen]

32. By that reasoning, can we expect pickles to run for pres and win, BIG?

N/T

[feminazi]

36. Oh for Christ's Sake, FlaxieB

You make it sound like Hillary pounced on Bill and forced him to marry her once he became President. They've been married for 30 years and thru the political wars together since Arkansas in the late 70's. Just like Elizabeth Edwards is an asset for John, Hillary was an asset for Bill. She didn't MARRY into a postion of privilege.....they built it together.

And just to set the record straight, Senator Clinton is not my first choice. That would be Edwards since Clark is out and Gore doesn't appear to be running.

[durrrty libby]

25. A whole lot of wishful thinking going on but absolutely no logic

[Dr Fate]

29. You will see a lot more wishful thinking if she gets nominated.

All this "America really does love Hillary" crap will be seen for the myth it is.

We will see a lot of "centrists" blaming the left instead of themselves once the Republican wins in 2008 if she does get the nom.

[durrrty libby]

39. Yawwwwwwwn

[juajen]

30. Get real! John Edwards has just as much name recognition as

Hillary. He has been a senator and a vice presidential candidate. Additionally, an appearance on Oprah Winfrey and a gala fundraiser has vaulted Obama's name recognition as high as Hillary's. She just happens to be more popular than either. Not her fault

[spooky3]

33. not true, according to Gallup -- she has 17 %-age points on him

and more on Obama.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27673

[Carrieyazel]

35. With all this in her favor, the fact that she isn't anywhere near 50% is telling.

Hillaryland thought they'd be at 55% right now and it isn't happening. She's down around 38%, which shows her weaknessess. She could get toppled of course.

[fightindonkey]

37. Keep Dreaming She'll Get Toopled, Even When She Is The Next President

She is leading by double digits.

She wins because people want experience. They want someone they know.

[Silence Dogood]

38. I called the Obama campaign for a refund

The guy has a messiah complex. Cramming religion down everyone throat. Government in bed with religion. All I want is my money back and Obama stopping the lying BS he peddles to the mesmerized masses.