MalloyLiberal
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Fri Sep-28-07 07:09 PM
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Edwards probably doesn't have a chance |
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Guess I won't vote in 2008.
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Fri Sep-28-07 07:17 PM
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1. Wrong...he has more than just a chance |
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They LOVE the guy in Iowa. Winning one state primary may not make a difference, but it'd be a huge book to his campaign--and give other states, particularly Midwestern ones, something to chew on.
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Fri Sep-28-07 07:43 PM
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5. He's doing better than Kerry was at this point in time... |
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Kerry won Iowa and became an instand front runner...when it counted.
It's getting tiresome all this crap about Hillary being inevitable. Dean and Clark vied for the lead, were basically tied through December. The media focused on Dean as being the sole front-runner and pretty much ignored Clark.
Then flash....Kerry won Iowa....That gave him a big media bubble going into NH....the rest is history.
I think part of the problem this year is it is getting pretty boring already.
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Fri Sep-28-07 07:18 PM
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2. He has a better chance than obama. |
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Fri Sep-28-07 07:32 PM
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Fri Sep-28-07 08:14 PM
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8. Yes He Does! Yes He Does! Yes Does! I've Made MY Choice |
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AND I'm sticking to it! But you go ahead and keep your ball rolling, I'll keep mine!
WE shall see!
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Fri Sep-28-07 11:15 PM
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His once vaunted leads in Iowa and North Carolina are gone and now Hillary has the lead in those states. And unlike '04, there are a lot fewer undecided this year. So the chances of a miracle happening for Edwards are essentially slim to none, and slim is packing his bags.
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Sat Sep-29-07 08:47 AM
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24. If you're so damn sure that Hillary is going to win this, why are you so adamant |
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about putting down anyone who disagrees with you? She has name recognition. That's her edge. We have a field of talented people who are being over-shadowed by Bill Clinton's resume.
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Sat Sep-29-07 11:35 PM
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The major candidates had high name recognition scores for months, and yet, for the most part, Hil's lead ends up increasing across the board.
And Billy only became active reletively recently.
In other words, your argument is full of shit.
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The Backlash Cometh
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Sun Sep-30-07 04:07 AM
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30. Nobody is going to buy your argument. |
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It's incredibly lame. Except for the part where you point out the convergence between Hillary's lead and Bill becoming more actively involved.
I don't believe for one second that Edwards and others in the field, have been given honest exposure from the media. Someone on this newsgroup even mentioned that when a poller called to ask about the choices for Democratic nominees, they left out Kucinich's name. Do you call that fair?
Put Edwards on Oprah, and I'll reconsider.
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:34 AM
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31. MSM says Dean will be the Dem nominee in '04... |
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...wha' happened? People actually started voting! How many times has the higher ranked team fallen? That's why they play the game.
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Fri Sep-28-07 08:51 PM
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9. William I have seen you here all day (at least the times I have been |
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on) and I was wondering are you being paid by Hillary..
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Sat Sep-29-07 09:10 PM
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26. If so they deserve a refund. |
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:10 PM
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32. I think he's being paid or at least other hillraisers are paid |
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to be here, so they can prevent the grassroots from criticizing their leader. Its very Nixon-ian, but Hillary knows she needs to clamp down on free speech in order to win the nomination.
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Fri Sep-28-07 08:06 PM
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6. What? Why are you allowing yourself to believe the bullshit the media is spewing? Please don't. nt |
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Fri Sep-28-07 08:09 PM
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7. I don't believe he has a chance, but don't let that stop you. |
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You should fight for who you believe in. Personally, I think Edwards' is a charlatan, but the great thing about America is everyone gets a voice. Don't let the naysayers like me silence yours.
:patriot:
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Fri Sep-28-07 09:00 PM
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11. Don't listen to the haters.... |
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Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 09:01 PM by Nutmegger
A lot of people said Lamont didn't have a chance in hell. Lamont did have a chance in hell if I had anything to do about it. I got involved in his campaign. I canvassed, called people on the phones and fought like hell for the person I believed in. We encountered naysayers everyday, some here on DU sadly.
Just don't listen to them. Do what you can for the candidate YOU think will be best for America.
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Fri Sep-28-07 10:11 PM
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12. No one should give up until it's over |
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Voting in an election only if your candidate is on the ballot is not the way for one to perform their civic duty. You still have a duty to your country and yourself to vote for the best candidate. What the winning candidate does when they are in office will effect you and allowing the worse choice to be elected because you wouldn't vote is nothing but acting as a spoiled child.
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Fri Sep-28-07 10:49 PM
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Gosh, ML have some hope. It's a long way to the primaries yet. I've just switched back to Edwards after HRC dissappointed me with her Lieberman/Kyl vote. Things like that are what can change the race between now and primary time.
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Fri Sep-28-07 11:16 PM
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15. Any of the three have a good chance this early |
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Edwards problem is that while he has been concentrating on Iowa, Hillary/Obama have built impressive national organizations. As the primary gets closer, and those two start focusing on Iowa and spending their bigger warchest there, it will be hard for Edwards to maintain his lead.
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Sat Sep-29-07 12:13 AM
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16. NO Democrat has a chance in 2008, among the current pack. |
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All three of them are eminently attackable. Think about what you have; a woman, a black, and a pretty boy. The Republicans are hoping for the one they can easily identify as a "Lesbian," even to the point of Bush offering her help, but they have ready-made slurs to circulate for the other two as well.
And they know that no Democrat has the courage or the spine to attack back. Have you ever seen any of them angry? To paraphrase the old Incredible Hulk line, you'd like them if they were angry. But none of them have that capacity. Not on behalf of Katrina, seniors, health care, the war, the "phony soldiers," anybody.
They will go down to defeat smiling (or in Clinton's case, phony-giggling).
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Sat Sep-29-07 12:24 AM
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17. Why doesn't he? If you don't answer this, you're full of shit. And you will be remembered. nt |
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Sat Sep-29-07 12:32 AM
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18. What if Gore gets into the race? |
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Sat Sep-29-07 12:55 AM
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20. Gore is NOT running for pres ..! |
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Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 12:56 AM by MalloyLiberal
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Sat Sep-29-07 12:52 AM
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19. I have said it before, but of all the top 5 Edwards has the most mobility |
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Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 01:19 AM by LeviathanCrumbling
if he gets beat bad in Iowa then he might drop out the next day, but if he wins and catches a good wave who knows what he could ride that to.
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Sat Sep-29-07 01:12 AM
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21. Huh? He is doing great! He just had the best debate so far and won according to most people. |
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He just made a cool 20 Million by committing to Public Financing.
No reason to give up at all. Seriously.
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Sat Sep-29-07 01:39 AM
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22. Git off yer duff and git to work! |
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Sat Sep-29-07 05:53 AM
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23. So Far, He Has My Vote. The Game Is Just getting ... |
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. started. Stay in the race and fight for the person you want! .
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Sat Sep-29-07 09:01 PM
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25. it's not a money thing. don't fall into that. I will be voting for him in the |
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:28 AM
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29. I expect Edwards to do very well-once people start casting their votes in 3 month's-I truly .... |
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Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 01:04 AM by GreenTea
expect John Edwards to pull out the nomination....I expect when the voting starts Obama will come in second or third in the early primaries and begin to fade (will he be picked up as a VP who knows, he'll have the bucks & a strong voting block) Hillary and Edwards will fight for states and Hillary will win states early,....but she will begin to fade as well - Hillary fatigue, maybe?....for some reason not as many who polled all these past months seem to be voting for her, she's far too moderate and the same old thing we've seen for the past 30 years except that she's a woman....The republicans and their media will be pushing hard for her in the primaries.... and that can be the a big difference in her favor....However, Edwards has an excellent progressive platform and if he has the money to be able to compete with Hillary...he'll blow right on by her and win the nomination....Which the republicans do not want to see.
I wish it would be Edwards/Kucinich....or even Edwards/Clark....but I suspect it'll be a forced Edwards/?
There will be the usual sabotage, lies distortions, smears, swift boating, republican voting manipulations, smokescreens keeping us focused elsewhere by the republicans anything to keep it close so their dirty tricks can slide them into keeping their fascism moving right along for at least another four years....But if Edwards is a tough and a fighter as I believe him to be.....He'll do very well!
Of course if Gore enters the race....EVERYTHING changes in Gore's favor! NO question about it....The republicans don't want to see him as the Dem nominee either!
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