Edwards Vs, Kerry Who do you vote for?

[seventhson]

Now that Dean is out of the campaign - who do you think should be the nominee?

[The Magistrate]

1. Sen. Kerry Is My Preferred Candidate, Mr. Son

The circumstances demand a man of military background.

Nor does it hurt to be much taller than one's opponent....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASRARDS!"

[PurityOfEssence]

12. I must quibble

just because I must.

The circumstances warrant charisma and personality to sweep this cur from our midst. Against the folksy patron saint of the circuitry challenged, Kerry will seem like a cross between Walter Mondale and James Lipton. Against real folksy charm and sincerity, Junior will be unmasked for the rotter he is.

Edwards is as tall as Bush, so that's not a problem.

The issue is electability EVERYWHERE. Yesterday, Edwards showed that he's competitive in the north Midwest, and his crossover appeal was much greater. Edwards will get every vote Kerry will (he might miss out on a few veterans for whom that's the issue) and many, many more. He can get rural, Southern, non- and other voters in abundance, while still holding all those Kerry can claim.

How will Kerry explain voting against the '91 Gulf War? How many conservatives will just have their little pachinko machine brain-substitutes shut off completely at the prospect of a Massachusetts liberal, but will allow themselves to comport with a cheery backwoods bohunk with a very detailed plan?

Please rethink this; I need you on this one.

Parse and rebut these, if you have the time.

Edwards is MUCH more electable. He is also the Great American Story, and he's on the wax, whereas Kerry's on the wane. There's absolutely no reason to rush this; people will flock to Edwards, and they've proven this whenever they've encountered him. The very thrust of the Kerry supporters, in the main, is: he'll do. That's ridiculous.

[spooky3]

19. Beautiful, POE! Especially

"folksy patron saint of the circuitry challenged"

If only that had a nice acronym that we could type as easily as Chimperor or other short epithet.

[Old and In the Way]

22. Except the results to date indicate you are wrong.

"people will flock to Edwards" They weren't flocking before, why would they flock now? I suspect that Edwards will certainly see a boost as he'll get the majority of Dean supporters to sign on, but I don't see anything in the polling to believe that mainstream Democrats are not clearly making the case that they want John Kerry as their nominee to take the fight to George Bush.

I think John Edwards is a fine man and a good Democrat, but he's not really much different in his political positions to Kerry; but he does not have the resume and leadership that Kerry will bring to the fight with Bush.

John Edwards is a middleweight champ. But I want our heavyweight champ in the fight with Republicans.

[mlawson]

27. Well, 'resume and leadership' wasn't enough to

put Gore into the WH. How could anyone have been more qualified? I really can't remember when resume elected any president. Okay, maybe Poppy in 1988.

I think that for millions, their choice for president is about some personal connection they make (or imagine) with one of the candidates. I can see them doing this with Edwards far more than with Kerry.

[jmoss]

45. I respectfully disagree..

I have been volunteering for John Edwards'cmpaign, making calls to Tennessee & Wisconsin, so far. I have spoken to hundreds of people who "like Edwards a lot" or whose "heart is with Edwards" but are afraid their vote won't count.

Now that John Edwards is gaining the advantage of press coverage more proportionate to that of Sen. Kerry, voters who want to support him won't feel like their vote would be waisted.

[ozone_man]

24. Help, I'm falling into the Edwards gravitational pull.

Well, not really, but your rebuttal was great anyway. Edwards is far better than Kerry, but I will be voting for Dean in the GE.

[jmoss]

46. ..best if you just give in to the temptation...

.......instead of a write-in vote that will only hurt the chances of our party taking back the White House. Hope you have a change of heart between now and November. :-)

[The Magistrate]

38. There Is Much To What You Say, My Friend

Sen. Edwards has some sterling qualities, and Sen. Kerry is less than perfect. Though my inclination is towards Sen. Kerry, it would not cause me distress should Sen. Edwards prevail. He is an excellent speaker, and a likeable fellow, which is quite important.

In regards to the original punative expedition into the Persian Gulf, that had my unqualified support at the time, and it seemed to me a bad mistake on the part of the Democratic Party leadership to oppose it as a Party policy. It could well prove damaging to have done so in the current climate, for that war enjoyed, and continues to enjoy, solid support among the people.

It still seems to me that the situation requires a man with a sound military record, in order to nuetralize the enemy's usual line of attack in times when matters of national security and violence weigh on the popular mind. This line is favored by a decades old popular feeling that Republicans as a class are better suited to deal with such questions, and it could be brought more effectively to bear against Sen. Edwards than Sen. Kerry, in my view.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[goobergunch]

2. Neither one. (n/t)

[seventhson]

3. then who goober? Bush?

nt

[goobergunch]

5. The question was who should be the nominee

And I don't think either is qualified to be my party's nominee - I'm hoping for a miracle at the convention.

[woofless]

13. "Wish in one hand........"

[zonmoy]

25. You mean

that kuchinich gets nominated.

[seventhson]

36. Okay

cool

[The Magistrate]

6. Indeed, Mr. Son

To not vote for the Democratic Party candidate is to increase the chance for victory of the Republican. Persons may protest this all they like, but they cannot deny it is the fact, and that the course urged above will lend material assistance to the criminals of the '00 Coup.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[goobergunch]

37. BTW

I can't vote in 2004 anyway because I'm underage. So it doesn't make one whit of a difference who I support.

[LuLu550]

4. Shrub is going to make this next election about the war on "terra"

Edwards has no experience in this area and they will make mincemeat out of him.

[AP]

8. And Edwards is going to make it about JOBS. And, if Bush doesn't talk

about jobs, most Americans are going to think he's totally out of touch and will ask him to please shut the fuck up about something going on on the other side of the world.

[SangamonTaylor]

9. just like Clinton did to daddy bush n/t

[anti-NAFTA]

32. Please don't compare Clinton to Edwards.

It's an insult to Edwards.

[mot78]

18. Senate Intelligence Committee

wow he's just an amatuer :eyes:

[jmoss]

44. JRE also helped squelch the right-wing Impeachment process

John Edwards as been fighting for regular people his entire life, including regular, right-wing Senators. JRE hath no fear. He has documented plans for reform, and strength & eloquence as a public fuigure to match!

[jmoss]

47. Bush's lack of experience has been glaringly clear..

....and...Great thing every President gets to appoint many excellent Cabinet members & an Executive Staff. No 1st term President has the kind of experience gained OTJ. And by the way, John Edwards is on Senate Intelligence, and Justice (just to name a few).

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. Kerry

Da man.
Da myth.
Da legend.

John Kerry.

[JVS]

10. I think that they are both worthless collaborators.

But Edwards is Southern, and probably could win more easily. Whatever that's worth.

[Auntie Bush]

42. Kerry...with Clark as VP

Then you will have both Southern and military.

[saltpoint]

11. In this poll with only 2 candidates --

-- a vote for one isn't necessarily a rejection of the other.

I supported Gore/Lieberman over Bush/Cheney in 2000 but that's where the party was at the time. Terry failed to call me to ask my input for the ticket nominees.

Either of the two senators in your poll creams Bush in November.

[SEAburb]

14. kick

>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<

[citizen snips]

15. Edwards.

n/t

[Leilani]

16. I don't know

& I really don't care..

I think each as good points & bad points..

When my guy left the race, I lost enthusiasm.

I have tried to like Kerry & Edwards, but neither gets my enthusiasm.

I would really like a 2 man debate, with a really good panel of journalists, questioning them on international & domestic policies.
Also, a chance for them to rebut each other, so it is not a memorized stump speech.

After that, I could make up my mind.

[oasis]

17. Kerry is ready to step into the Oval Office before noon Thursday.

[Padraig18]

20. EDWARDS!

:thumbsup:

[DjTj]

21. NOOOOOOOO....Edwards is leading a DU poll...

...this is the kiss of death...

We're doomed! Doomed!

[JohnLocke]

23. Gaak!!

[mlawson]

29. Don't look now, but you-know-who will show up soon.

You know which posters I mean, with the same tired old disinformation.

INCOMING!!!!!

[burning bush]

26. Edwards or Kerry...hmmmmm I chose

Dean

[methinks2]

28. Edwards

He has a compassion about him. Similiar to what Kennedy had.

[Iverson]

30. Kucinich, Sharpton

This business about helping the mainstream make the left invisible is not a good idea.

[anti-NAFTA]

31. Everyone should transfer his or her support to Edwards.

Kerry is a slightly more centrist version of Edwards who isn't as good a speaker as Edwards. Sure, he's a war veteran; but there are only so many times you can use that before it becomes tiring.

[Aunt Eunice]

33. Edwards? Kerry?

Personally, I would go with Edwards, his message is consistant, he cares about people and aside from being a trial lawyer, doesn't have much baggage for the Republicans to latch onto.

IMHO, Kerry would get killed on his voting record, lack of commitment to any position from day to day, and all the special interest baggage.

Edwards may have trouble taking his "2 Americas" to a broader audience. A lot of people will recognize they are not in 'poor' America, but will wonder what '3rd' America Edwards lives in, when he's got the zillion dollar beach house on a private island. Every dime of Edward's wealth came from the poor people he defended.

The Republicans may once again shy away from going after Edward's trial record as they did when he beat Faircloth. At that time, the unspoken threat was, if the Rs pegged Edwards as a ambulance chaser, he would do a commercial with the little girl who had her guts sucked out.

As a young, fresh face, Edwards will attract women, he's charasmatic like Clinton, but thinks beyond his penis.

Overall, I think he has the best chance of toppling Bush

[seventhson]

34. I disagree on this:

you said: "Every dime of Edward's wealth came from the poor people he defended."

I beg to differ. I work with the poorest of the poor as an attorney. The money Edwards EARNED was from those Corporations who were negligent or otherwise harmed an innocent and probably defenseless person.

He earned the money he made for poor working folks by taking the risks of representation and getting them just compensation for his hard work and for their suffering and injuries.

When you win a judgment you generally have a state regulated limit to what you receive as legal counsel. The awards from juries usually factor in the costs and suffering of the injured as well as the costs of their lawsuits. The penalties for pain and suffering (punitive damages) often include or factor in payments for attorneys fees on top of actual damages for the injured.

I wanted to correct the notion that Edwards TAKES this money from his clients. He earns it fair and square by getting them compensation they might not otherwise receive. He takes the risks of losing and bearing many of the costs and is paid for his skill and hard work.

He is obviously one of the best "closers" - as I have heard said about him.

We will hear a LOT about him being a "Trial Lawyer" - a crime worse than being a liberal in the Bush dyslexicon.

Don't buy the bullshit.

It is okay to admire him for representing the poor and getting them what they deserve. He is good at it and deserves his compenation.

Unlike Kerry - he did NOT inherit it or marry into it twice.

AND he went to an ordinary public high scholl and played fottbal with "the brothers" UNLIKE Kerry - who was on the Hockey team at an elite prep school with BFEE coverup artist FBI Head Robert Mueller.

[Aunt Eunice]

40. I agree..

..that Edwards has earned his money.

But, I think as an attorney, you have to agree that Edwards is payed by his client, not the hospitals he is suing on their behalf. Otherwise, he would be the corporate lawyer.

I would pick Edwards over Kerry any day, I was just trying to point out some problems Edwards would have in a general election.

The scariest thing I heard today was Pat Buchannon supporting Edwards on his protectionist policies.

[laruemtt]

35. with all the talent we had

at our disposal, how did we end up with these two? anyway, if it's between these two i'd have to go with kerry - only because edwards still thinks the iraq war was the right thing to do. that alone trumps skull & bones and all the rest of kerry's baggage. come back to us wes!.........

[bigwillq]

39. I voted for Edwards in this poll

but I still plan on voting for Dean in my primary

[LWolf]

41. Write in.

[flaminbats]

49. For me it's now a choice between Kucinich or Kerry...

give me another week, and I might actually have a primary candidate! :wow:

[LWolf]

52. I'll give you until election day!

Take all the time you need. Why rush such an important decision?

:hi:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

43. Shootin my wad for the Bonesman all the way

:thumbsup:

[seventhson]

48. Kerry is Skull, Edwards is ???

I know Skull is BAD BAD BAD

But I wish I knew more about Edwards.

I know Kerry is my last choice among the dems (even laster than Lieberman - but not Clark, though)

What I know about Edwards, though, is inspiring. Self-made defender of the underdog as opposed to wealthy scion of Skull/Bones.

[seventhson]

50. Interesting Kick

50-50 Wow!

[LEW]

51. voted

n/t

[Liberal_Andy]

53. Go Edwards!

:hi: