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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:57 PM
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Hillary's camp is afraid of Obama "busting out of the stable" willing to lose Iowa to Edwards
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 04:58 PM by wndycty
If you noticed, earlier today a DUer who is a Hillary supporter proclaimed that Edwards is Hillary's only competition. Its funny but he must be reading some type of Hillary talking points because on this morning's Meet The Press .

Its funny but the very tactics we are seeing here on DU (saying Edwards is the only challenger and proclaiming Hillary the victory) were discussed this morning:

MR. BUCHANAN: But, Dan, if, if, if Edwards, let’s say he wins Iowa, which obviously he could do. If he wins Iowa, he can’t beat Hillary Rodham Clinton in a national contest, I don’t think. He’s going to have to take matching funds. I don’t think he’s, he’s a national candidate. And that sort of eclipses Obama, who, as Tim said, can break away and win this. He’s got the in—the national image, he’s got the money. I don’t think Edwards can do it. So if Hillary’s going to lose, she wants to lose to Edwards.

MR. RUSSERT: Inevitability is a big part of the Clinton campaign. “We’re going to win this nomination. We’re going to win this election.”
-snip-

As an Obama supporter here are the quotes that really caught my attention as it relates to how viable he is. The Hillary camp is THREATENED by Obama and they will continue to talk him down, make it seem like he is falling apart:

MR. RUSSERT: Dan Balz, a very strong supporter for Hillary Clinton said to me right now Barack Obama is in the stable. But if he gets out of the stable in Iowa...

MR. BALZ: Mm-hmm.

MR. RUSSERT: ...and starts running, he’s a thoroughbred. Because the independents in New Hampshire could cross over and vote for him, you go to South Carolina, half the Democratic voters are African-American. We have to keep him in the stable in the Iowa. These polls indicate that he has a chance of breaking out, although she still is the front-runner.

MR. BALZ: Well, it’s, it’s why the Clinton campaign, on the one hand, touts every national poll that shows her well ahead while running a campaign in Iowa in which she’s running quite scared, and deservedly so. There’s two things about Iowa that are a problem for her. One is the strength of John Edwards, which, because he is a factor in there, you have a different kind of race than you have anywhere else in the country at this point. And the second is, she has no long history in Iowa.

MR. BUCHANAN: Mm-hmm.

MR. BALZ: Bill Clinton never ran in the Iowa caucuses in 1992 because Tom Harkin, senator from Iowa, was running for president, and all the Democrats skipped it. The Clintons do not have the kind of network in Iowa that they have had and been able to develop in New Hampshire. There is not that kind of affection for the—for Hillary Clinton in Iowa that there is for the Clintons in New Hampshire. She has to work this. They are organizing very, very hard out there. She is spending a lot of time. It’s interesting that she gave her health care speech in Iowa, and she delivered a major speech on Iraq in Iowa.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21065954/page/4/

Here is the thread where a DUer claims that Hillary's only competition is Edwards, he or she must be getting some talking points:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3565609
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:07 PM
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1. There you go. Obama is Clinton's nightmare...
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:12 PM
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2. Clinton camp must be sweating Newsweek poll that puts Obama at 52% when you add 1st, 2nd choices
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 05:14 PM by flpoljunkie
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:14 PM
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3. From this morning's show: "in Iowa in which she’s running quite scared"
:kick:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:15 PM
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4. Thanks for the link. Did not watch Meet the Press this morning.
Am not a fan of the "big dog."
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:16 PM
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5. Saw the roundtable. . .and I'm still a fan of the Big Dawg!
:kick:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:32 PM
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6. Speaking of the Big Dawg, I thought it was right slick of Bill building up McCain in NH on MTP
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 05:53 PM by flpoljunkie
And then there’s, there’s the sort of unknown, which is, can there be a surprise? And there’s only two potential surprises, I think. One is, John McCain, I think, has a second breath. And if the independents in New Hampshire decide to vote in the Republican Party instead of the Democratic Party, he could surprise. He’s a very fine man. He’s given a lot to this country. And, and I disagree with him strongly about Iraq, but I admire him. And any person would. And you just—a guy with—that’s got that kind of meat about him, even though he was poorly served by the people who spent all his money, you can’t count him out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21065954/page/2/

(Yes, McCain would surprise, and this would be a real big help to Hillary in NH. And, you can bet the other campaigns noticed this, as well.)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:04 PM
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10. He's sticking the knife in Obama with a smile on his face...
under the guise of "bipartisanship" and "respect" for McCain he's trying to lower the Indy vote for Obama. Good try...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:06 PM
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11. Too bad it won't work. McCain is done.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:08 PM
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12. I agree. But it's not stopping Hillary's husband from trying...
doing all he can to get her elected while pretending to remain "above the fray."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:17 AM
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25. Clinton also praised McCain on ABC's This Week. Suggested a comeback for McCain possible,
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 08:17 AM by flpoljunkie
that McCain was "impressive, a very impressive man, liberated, broke--and just out there being John McCain."

Video link here: Clinton's McCain plaudits start at about 13:16 into the tape when Bill Clinton is asked to talk about the Republican race.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3671408
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:39 PM
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7. Obama is the candidate to beat and Hillary knows it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:41 PM
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8. Amen!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:01 PM
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9. Kick.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:10 PM
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13. Recommended. n/t
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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:15 PM
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14. K&R
:kick:
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:09 PM
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15. this is exactly what they are afraid of.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:13 PM
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16. hate to break your bubble
This old old head the daughter of an old time Democrat consultant in the de e p south, says that Edward is going to win Iowa and the presidency.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:15 PM
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17. My opinion... Obama's her biggest competition
and he's probably the only one who can beat her.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:27 PM
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18. Clintons know Obama is a true thoroughbred. Obama is better than they could ever be.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:30 PM
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19. All of this horsey talk, maybe the Dem candidates should
be wearing spurs.

:dem::dem::dem::dem::dem::dem::dem::dem::dem::dem:

Yee-haw!
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:59 PM
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20. I agree
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:30 PM
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23. Seriously. Is this the Preakness or a Presidential Election??
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:01 PM
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21. The Clinton Team can't find boots on the ground who support her
Name recognition in the polls three months away from voting will be nothing as the months go by. The Obama campaign has overwhelming numbers in offices, grassroots support, contributions and immense crowds.

The MSM is way behind the curve. Again.



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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:04 PM
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22. The bounce from an Iowa win would be amazing
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:46 AM
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24. Monday kick
:kick:
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