Rasmussen: Clinton Opens Up Double Digit Lead in SC

[wyldwolf]

Hillary Clinton has a thirteen point advantage over Barack Obama in South Carolina’s Presidential Primary. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the race shows Clinton with 43% of the vote while Obama is the top choice for 30% of the state’s Likely Primary Voters. A month ago, it was Clinton 38% Obama 30%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008_south_carolina_democratic_primary

[rinsd]

1. 4th poll in a row showing her with a double digit lead in SC.

And SC used to be back and forth between her and Obama with each leading various polls.

[Alamom]

2. Thank you. Good News. nm

[depakid]

3. Another state she has no hope of winning in the general election

Not to mention Rasmussen. Yawn.

[wyldwolf]

4. So, who does?

[Jane Austin]

5. How would she affect the Congressional races in SC if she's at the

top of the ticket?

[wyldwolf]

6. you tell us. I'd like to see some stats on it beyond the "fears and smears" we see on DU

[Jane Austin]

8. Anything I say would be just a guess.

Although as a denizen of a red state, my guess wouldn't be in Clinton's favor.

[wyldwolf]

10. Well, guesses is all we get on this subject....

...and not even particularly educated ones. Interesting, though, in red stated like VA, OH, and ARK, there is no such concern. Dems are polling very high.

[rinsd]

7. South Carolina is pivotal to a Dem electoral college victory?

Last Democrat to take SC during Presidential election was Jimmy Carter is 1976.

[Clark2008]

9. The good news in this is that Edwards is done.

Other than that, yawn.

[SaveElmer]

11. Not to mention an uptick in her nationwide total...Obama back to 22 down...

Hillary 44
Obama 22
Edwards 15

[Capn Sunshine]

12. Yeah but what about Newsweek?

They seem to more on point than a pay to play organization who tailors answers to fit the desired outcome.

[rinsd]

17. Which organization is pay to play?

Perhaps instead of insinuating everyone but Newsweek is corrupt, you could make the case of which ones are corrupt and why.

[emilyg]

13. Thanks. Very good news.

[William769]

14. She's doing the same thing in Corth Carolina also.

[loudsue]

15. Now I KNOW that rasmussen is in the pockets of the repigs!

There is NO WAY IN HELL that South Carolina Dems are supporting hillary. The polling companies are surely being paid to do their polling at hillary campaign headquarters in every state.

[rinsd]

16. LOL...yeah every polling firm is paid off.

Until they show results that the poster likes then they are beyond reproach.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_primary-234.html

[babylonsister]

18. I don't know about that, but she has her own personal cheering squad

at Rasmussen:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1925079

[wyldwolf]

19. when you find something factually inaccurate he's written, let us know.

[babylonsister]

20. I find it a unfortunate and suspect that he was concealing his ties to the

Clintons instead of rejoicing in them. Don't you, and why would he do that? You can use prevailing numbers and still twist a story, so don't act like it's all aboveboard. Because then, I just get back to the question of why was he hiding his relationship.

[wyldwolf]

21. He was concealing them? How so?

[depakid]

24. Have a look-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1925079

Referencing:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/27/schoen/index.html

It's largely about using cheap polls to influence people's opinions (as opposed to discussing substance or reflecting people's opinions) -yet scroll down and you'll see the dishonesty in black & white.

[wyldwolf]

26. that doesn't show how he was "concealing it." Kinda like accusing Sammy Hagar of concealing ...

...he was the frontman for Van Halen if he doesn't disclose it.

[rinsd]

22. I agree that he should have been more upfront in his disclosure. Ras has corrected that

From your link -

UPDATE: Rasmussen has added the following to Schoen's biography line: "Schoen was President Bill Clinton's research and strategic consultant during the 1996 reelection campaign." That's an improvement, but in an e-mail to me, Rasmussen wrote this (ellipses in original):

We will have several commentators with ties to various candidates . . . all will be disclosed and all will offer their perspective . . . I will probably be the only pollster without ties to anyone. . .

Rasmussen himself clearly perceives Schoen as a pollster attached to the Hillary Clinton campiagn and anything Schoen writes in the way of polling analysis or anything else ought to include that fact prominently.

[loudsue]

25. Thanks for the link, babylonsister!

I never saw that post! Looks to me like a lot of other people missed it, too.

Hillary is every bit as bad as the republican congresscritters. I don't see why in the world anyone would support her for president.

:kick:

[babylonsister]

27. You're very welcome!

:hi: Too bad our Clinton 'experts' weren't upfront about this instead of posting poll after poll.

[lyonn]

23. Sure wish I could get excited about her poll numbers

Her vote to trash the Iranian something or other Guard seemed to tell me she hasn't learned from 2002 when she believed our President then. Someone, Please, explain how I am way off base. Why did she vote for it?

Syria, Saudia Arabia, Iran, the whole middle east has a stake in the Iraq mess. Why just point the finger at Iran? Are the insurgents attacking Americans in Iraq not from most countries in the ME. Why is the target Only on Iran?

[bigdarryl]

28. 15% still not sure who there voting for so this is still a tossup