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Wed Feb-18-04 03:14 PM
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Our Chances As Democrats in the WH have increased! |
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I am happy toady by the annoncement that Dean will drop out of the race. It is a good thing for me because, Had he won the nomination, I probably would have voted 3rd party. I still would have voted against *, ABB, but I couldn't see myself voting for a guy who screamed like a maniac like that on TV. Could you imagine somone like Dean trying to tell the Middle East to calm down and talk like regular people?!? omg, there would be disaster in the middle east.
But now we have John Kerry to carry the flag to win in Nov. I just know things would work out and we wouldn't as a party jump off the deep end. All we need is half of the green vote and its all sewed up come this Nov. Nov. can't come quick enough for me.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:18 PM
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1. I guess I may just cancel your vote out. |
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I'm going to write in Dean if kerry is the nominee. Your joy of Dean's departure is evident and thus inspiring. I liked your first impression, you sold me on that..... Thank you.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:20 PM
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2. Nimble, despite the fact that you're a 'happy toady' |
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or happy today :hi: , it wouldn't hurt to be a little sensitive to what the Dean supporters are going through, as well. They've just lost what they had believed to be the next President, and they'll need a little time to feel ready to jump into supporting the presumptive nominee.
Take it from an expert on the disappointment... it does take a while for the healing to begin.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:23 PM
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7. funny you should say that |
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What about all these people saying they are going third party because Dean is gone, that's just as insensitive, sorry I lose no sleep over it.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:32 PM
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17. Well, you SHOULD lose sleep over it! |
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You know, given some time, space, sensitivity and the opportunity to hear what Dean has in mind for his group of supporters, we could actually expand the base of the Democratic Party. I have no clue why you would want to drive these people away, just for the sake of stimulating some 'conversation' on DU.
If you thought it was such a bad idea for the Dean supporters to claim that they'll vote third party, then why would you do the same?
I have no clue how some people think we have ANY chance of winning back our White House without absolutely each and every vote we can get - even if you don't agree 100% with those voters on every issue. :shrug:
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:36 PM
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21. There were plenty of people saying they would go 3rd party |
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if Dean got the nomination. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
"I couldn't see myself voting for a guy who screamed like a maniac like that on TV. Could you imagine somone like Dean trying to tell the Middle East to calm down and talk like regular people?!? omg, there would be disaster in the middle east."
As opposed to now, when things are so calm. I guess you're right, it's a good thing crazy Howard Dean won't be our next president. He might do something crazy, like start a war!
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:55 PM
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I spit coke n the screen over that one. Good Job!
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:18 PM
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Thanks. It needed saying.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:43 PM
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Didn't you just say you would have voted third party if Dean was the nominee?
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:52 PM
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42. but in your case.. a third party vote is bad... |
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in the posters case it was still - somehow - ABB. Go figure? :shrug:
This posturing, taunting was unproductive when the General got out of the race as it is now when Dean gets out of the race.
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Wed Feb-18-04 05:00 PM
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It's rare to see such a blatant example of hypocrisy in one thread.
I agree, this sort of post is nothing but senseless posturing and should be locked in a few minutes, I'm betting.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:50 PM
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40. Wait a week or a month and then listen |
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to see if the discussions are the same. Folks feel/say all sorts of things at the moment of greatest frustration/disappointment.
But hey - pouring salt in wounds brings much more joy, then attempting any empathy... doesn't it.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:20 PM
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3. Most media has issued some sort of "retraction" over the scream |
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Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 03:22 PM by BlueEyedSon
Turns out he wasn't really screaming that loudly or inappropriately....
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:20 PM
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4. Please tell me your post is satirical. N/T |
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:25 PM
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But I am very angry at these people saying 3rd party this, 3rd party that. I would never go 3rd party EVER when it comes to Reps vs Dems.
Sorry but I don't see how people can claim that this is mean, but what they say is ok
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:46 PM
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Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 04:49 PM by Anwen
"It is a good thing for me because, Had he won the nomination, I probably would have voted 3rd party. "
and then:
"I would never go 3rd party EVER when it comes to Reps vs Dems."
So it would be okay for you to vote third party had Dean been nominated, but it's not okay for any Dean supporters to vote third party?
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:22 PM
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5. Now with Dean out you can put your PINK TUTU back on !! |
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:22 PM
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How would you feel if Kerry had dropped out and Dean supporters were dancing with joy?
Tacky! Tacky! Tacky!
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:24 PM
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8. I sure as heck wouldn't be posting about going third party |
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It's about as flaming as it can get, Look at those posts and then come back to me
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:32 PM
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Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 03:33 PM by ronnykmarshall
Kind of like the "I know you are, but what am I" syndrome.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:59 PM
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"I sure as heck wouldn't be posting about going third party"
"I am happy toady by the annoncement that Dean will drop out of the race. It is a good thing for me because, Had he won the nomination, I probably would have voted 3rd party."
oops... Slip of the toungue?
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:54 PM
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43. but didn't you just post about going third party? Or did I read |
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that original post incorrectly? If I were to try to discredit others - or justify my flamebait behavior based on other threats of thirdparty voting... don't know that I would declare that I would have voted third party in the same post. Seems to sorta cede the high ground.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:26 PM
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"I couldn't see myself voting for a guy who screamed like a maniac like that on TV. Could you imagine somone like Dean trying to tell the Middle East to calm down and talk like regular people?!? omg, there would be disaster in the middle east."
:eyes:
I suppose the Middle East isn't a disaster NOW...?
I'm sure Bush is being real calm about solving the problem there, eh...?
"The Scream" means nothing. Perception is everything. Try using your own next time...
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:26 PM
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11. Kerry isn't electable. |
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He's going to lose big time.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:29 PM
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Kerry is totally electable. Don't buy that cheap right-wing crap. he'll do just fine in November.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:21 PM
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32. The problem is that KERRY bought the cheap right wing crap |
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and voted for most of it. And that's why he can't debate Bush,nor expect anybody disgusted by Bush to vote for him.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:26 PM
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12. Dean gave the Dems their b*lls back. |
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He did more to lift up the party than any other candidate. He was not my first choice, but his energy will be missed. I hope he enthusiastically supports Kerry or Edwards. They are both good, progressive candidates.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:51 PM
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26. yeah bush alert. boo nimble... |
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what an unneccesary arrogant and down right bitter post. Why? i ask you why? you're guy came out a head. SO? i thought this race was about the future of this nation not about your ego. It is all for nothing if we alenate each other a lose in NOvember. Folks will say Kerry who in 5 years?
note: Im an edwards guy but i'll vote fer Kerry head held high if it comes to that.
ps i thought Dean was a grat guy and good fer the party and america
thank you dr dean
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:27 PM
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13. You just demonstrated one of the major flaws with this site .... |
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some people are just a bit too gleeful at the expense of others and can't seem to keep the degrading crap to themselves.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:27 PM
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14. Looks like the strategy worked |
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If I were to say more it would be deleted.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:33 PM
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19. Funny thing about this guy. |
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He thinks getting 1/2 of the Green vote is important, but doesn't mind alienating Dean supporters and driving them into the hands of the Greens.
It seems a bit odd that someone who purports to want a Democratic victory in October would be pissing off the very people he needs to help get what he wants.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:43 PM
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What's a little deletion for ya? (it will spare me from having to suffer a mod spanking! :spank: )
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:36 PM
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20. Screamed like a maniac? |
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That is patently false and was proven to be incorrect by Diane Sawyer.
I really think pouring salt in people's wounds is not very decent.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:36 PM
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22. Did you actually listen to what Dean said? It was a PEP RALLEY! |
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It should have gone down as one of the best pep ralleys ever done - right up there with Knaute Rockne. Just keep telling yourself over and over - DO NOT LISTEN TO THE US NEWS MEDIA! They lied - again. They lied to get him out of the race. The news media is picking the Democratic candidate.
And in case you haven't noticed, the Middle East is a disaster. And the Democratic party should jump off something. They've done hardly anything to stop the republicans in the last 20 years. They need a backbone, and I sure hope whoever wins does have one. Else we're going to get the idiot back again.
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:37 PM
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23. I'd rather vote for the guy who screams like an idiot than the one... |
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....who well, let's face IS AN IDIOT
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Wed Feb-18-04 03:47 PM
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25. glad that repuke meme got so well programmed into your |
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:13 PM
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29. this is one of the most hilarious posts I've read today |
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:18 PM
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30. Don't you people get it? |
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The more you insult Howard Dean, the more likely you will guarantee a lot of his supporters will not vote for Kerry. It's like you believe that ABB gives you an excuse to taunt him because we all feel compelled to vote for the Democratic nominee to get rid of Bush. You are going to be in for a rude awakening, because Kerry isn't getting my money, and as of now, he isn't getting my vote either.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:28 PM
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Certainly reads like it. Can't imagine it's being anyone's honest opinion.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:32 PM
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34. Doubt it..just plain old antagonism |
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:41 PM
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36. This post must be a joke. |
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:42 PM
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We don't need your mean spirited kind in the party. That is an offensive post to those who supported Dean.
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Wed Feb-18-04 04:52 PM
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41. Prediction: Green/3rd party vote will be bigger than it was in 2000. |
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Here's one democrat who did not vote for nader in 2000, but wil *not* be voting for either kerry or edwards in 2004.
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Wed Feb-18-04 05:17 PM
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45. Many here feel the way you do about Dean only it'sKerry |
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that makes them feel that way. It's funny to me that you would vote 3rd party if Dean was elected but are happy happy with Kerry and hope that you can sew things up with half the green vote. I'll tell you one thing Kerry ain't going to cut it with the green vote.
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Wed Feb-18-04 05:26 PM
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47. I think this is not the day for anyone to be heavy-footing all over |
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the Dean folks' feelings. They've had a dreadful month after a rocket-ride year, and they deserve a decent reticence.
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