youthere
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:33 AM
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To the Clinton/Obama haters I want to ask a question... |
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To the Clinton haters: If Sen. Clinton does not get the nomination but is picked for VP, how would you feel about that?
To the Obama haters: If Sen. Obama does not get the nomination but is picked for VP how would you feel about that?
Just wondering.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:36 AM
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1. I'm not a hater, so maybe my answer isn't valid |
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but, I wouldn't mind either of them as VP. I'm not supporting them for President because I don't like their positions and there are personality things that really turn me off to them.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:38 AM
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:37 AM
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2. The VP is pretty irrelevant |
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Unless the President drops dead, or the President choses to empower the VP.
I could tolerate Hillary as VP, but NOT calling the shots.
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youthere
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:38 AM
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:39 AM
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7. Tell That To Cheney.....nt |
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:41 AM
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Hillary will call alot of the shots as VP. She did it as first lady, why would you think she would be silent as VP?
I dislike Hillary, hate is a strong word IMO, and I don't want her anywhere in the WH.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:38 AM
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5. your scenario is absurd |
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everyone knows Wesley Clark is the VP candidate.
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youthere
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:39 AM
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Thu Oct-04-07 11:03 AM
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ask a thoughtful, handsome, militarily successful general, who appears on fox news & is thus familiar to legions of mouth breathing lumpen proles, to be your veep & lead the effort to extricate our selves from iraq?
how can the dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory if they make such a logical deicision?
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youthere
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Thu Oct-04-07 11:05 AM
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15. not son..daughter. BUT... |
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point taken (can I use the excuse I haven't had enough coffee yet?)
Logical decisions? Why break precedent?
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:43 AM
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9. I don't hate either Hillary or Barack. Either will be 100% better than any GOP offering. |
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But I want change. Big change.
Hillary stands for more of the same in my book. She's tied in to lobbyists, big corporations, and she owes favors to too many. That puts her in a compromising position going into the deal as far as I'm concerned.
Barack is a sharp guy. I think he has fewer ties to the politics as usual group than Hillary, but he lost me big time when he made the statement that Bush and Cheney haven't done anything serious enough to warrant impeachment proceedings. :wow:
I mean, if torturing, spying, lying to start a war, cronyism, corruption, bigotry, discrimination, breaking their oaths of office, and multiple violations against the Constitution aren't serious enough for impeachment, what the hell is in Barack's eyes?
Disclaimer: I realize Edwards is not on the impeachment wagon either, but his supporters are working on him regarding this. And Edwards' comments haven't been as strongly anti-impeachment as Barack's stance has.
To finish answering the OP's questions, yes, I would support either Hillary or Barack for VP, and if they get the nomination I will support them in the election as well. I don't believe either is the best choice to make the big change America needs, but I will not take the chance of throwing my vote away and allowing a Republican in office again.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:46 AM
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10. this is flame bait..because someone may not want or like a certain candidate does not mean they are |
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haters..
that sounds like talking points bullshit ..
maybe someone else knows info you don't about a certain candidate that is against what they believe in..that does not make them a hater..and i am kinda getting sick of these negative connotations..it is unnecessary.
so if you love a candidate and someone else doesn't..does that make them a hater in your mind???????
this is really going to far..and making me shut down from DU..it is disingenuous..and it is not called for.
just my 2 cents..but i am sick of it.
i thought this was a time of the process to find out everything one could about the candidates..so now when people ask questions of a particular candidate or expose info ..we are haters?????
enough..for me..
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:56 AM
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12. I think you're reading an awful lot into two questions. |
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NOwhere did I say that you are a hater, BUT clearly there are those on DU that genuinely HATE certain candidates. That is who this thread is directed at. If you do not HATE either of those candidates then obviously my question is not directed at you, right? I'm not spoiling for a fight. I really want to know. I think it's a very real scenario. Of the three frontrunners, it's very likely that one of them could be picked for VP, so how does that effect your support of a candidate. If someone absolutely HATES Obama...so much so that they are willing to not vote, or vote Republican if he got the nom, then how would a "XYZ/Obama" ticket affect their support. I think it's a fair question. If you find it offensive then I welcome you to alert a moderator or hide the thread.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:47 AM
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11. Neither should be VP. . .a balance ticket would have either Clark or Richardson in the #2 slot |
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Both Clark and Richardson have the foreign policy and executive experience (Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO and current Gov.).
I'm hopeful that either Barack (my #1) or Hillary get the nod, but neither should be #2.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:59 AM
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13. I agree, (especially re: Clark) ... |
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but, it's a likely scenario that say if Edwards won the nomination, he COULD potentially tap either Clinton or Obama for VP. I'm wondering if some of the vehemence toward those two candidates would dissipate if chosen for that slot.
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Thu Oct-04-07 11:24 AM
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16. keep her in the Senate |
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Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:27 AM by roesch
I don't hate her, but think she has already had her four years in the White House and represents Republican Lite, as does her husband Bill-- and I have had enough of that. We can do better at VP from Clarke to Bidden.
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