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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:33 AM
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Poll question: If Andrew Jackson Was Alive Today Who Would He Support For President?
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:39 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:35 AM
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1. Probably Ron Paul, because Paul wants to abolish the Federal Reserve and Jackson opposed
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:35 AM by Freddie Stubbs
Second Bank of the United States.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:36 AM
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2. I Liked Andrew Jackson
But it's hard to get past The Trail Of Tears...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:42 PM
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17. "The Supreme Court has decided, now let's see the Supreme Court enforce it"
Or something like that. Did AJ send Bill Richardson's ancestors to Oklahoma?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:27 AM
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26. Exactly, Andy Jackson would feel more at home with libertarians like Ron Paul
Let's not forget that Jackson was culturally more in line with today's Bubba voter than with anything that resembles a modern day Democrat. Jackson would have supported Bush's crusade in Iraq, and he would have been pals with Strom Thurmond.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:41 AM
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3. George Bush
Old Hickory was a nasty piece of work. He was a strong poponent of the genocide against Native Americans, which reached a high point under his administration (not the highest, though; that would happen under President Tyler.) He greatly extended the power of the presidency, and made the concept of Manifest Destiny a cornerstone of his administration.

All in all, he was an 18th century George W. Bush.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:44 AM
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4. I See Your Point
But to argue against "Manifest Destiny' to be consistent you would have argue against the entire concept of the United States Of Amerca...There was somebody here before we got here who we rather mercilessly displaced...
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:40 PM
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16. So, the concept of the United States of America was imperialism and conquest?
Because that's what manifest destiny was about.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:34 AM
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31. It Was About Making America Bigger By The Acquisition Of New Territory
That territory was usually occupied and the occupants didn't get a say on whether they wanted to be acquired...

What answer are you looking for?

One can recognize a phenomenon and not endorse it...
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:51 AM
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5. I was about to post this.
In fact, many see Jackson as the Bush of his time.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:52 AM
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6. It comes down to this: The most civilized people of the 1830s would be barbarians today
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 11:52 AM by tom_paine
with the exception of those tiny handfuls of people who would have been remarkable no matter what age they had been born in their farsightedness.

Having said that, Mr. Jackson was not among that tiny handful of people, I think.

Let us also not forget that Jackson presided over the framework that extended the franchise to the Commoners (yes, only white and male, but still a step in the right direction).

But even still, if we consider that the Bushies, using sophisticated, relentless an dwell-funded propaganda in the absence of opposition for 20 years, have moved the Center in Amerikan politics to the Center of the Old American Republic, circa 1925, what then was the Center in the Old American Republic of the 1830s?

Therefore, it may well be that the choice for Andrew Jackson would be a Lil' Boots Bushler.

But only because he did not have the wisdom of experience that history has taught humanity in the intervening years, nor the vast increase in scientific and psychological knowledge.

But yes, for those reasons...Lil' Boots Bushler would have been Andrew Jackson's choice.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:59 AM
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7. Still, I'm Enjoying An Amusing Fantasy
While I know that Andrew Jackson would be unpalatable to most Democrats today, still, I find the thought of Old Hickory in a state of rage and waving a hickory stick in hot pursuit of a terrified Karl Rove to be wickedly amusing.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:01 PM
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8. I'd Love To See A Barbecue On The White House Lawn
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:08 PM
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10. Prosthetnik Vogon Jelz? Is that you?
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 12:09 PM by tom_paine


Oh fetid gruntbuggly
thy micturtations to thee...


Yeah, I like that fantasy, too. The one I like better is the one of the Rude Pundit, which involves Zombie Washington rising from the grave to chomp on the brains of the tyrants who destroyed his beloved America.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:00 PM
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19. Answers
I'm not Vogon Jelz. Different fellow. I used to post on AOL under this screen name.

Surely Zombie Washington would have better taste than to chomp on the brains of the Duck Soup Posse.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:13 AM
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33. You're not the person pictured in my above post? Bummer.
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 08:16 AM by tom_paine
I am terribly disappointed, as I simply adore Vogon poetry. And Prosthetnik Vogon Jelz is a celebrity among the Vogon bureaucracy, known for their unique efficiency amongst all the sentient species of the Galaxy.

If you don't know what I am talking about, please to buy or get from the library:

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Douglas-Adams-Hitchikers-restaurant/dp/B000E7BV16/ref=sr_1_1/104-4358816-1471107?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191589909&sr=8-1

and prepare to laugh your ass off. We can all use some laughs these days.

Oh, and one more thing. Zombie Washington, in this Rude Pundit fantasy, isn't chomping these particular brains for the taste, but out of rage at what has been done to his beloved nation.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:02 PM
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9. Martin Van Buren
hell of a VP
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:14 PM
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11. He was "OK". n/t
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:15 PM
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12. He was one evil SOB. I'm sure he would be in favor of Kyl/Lieberman.
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 12:37 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:18 PM
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13. Me Or Andy
I was just asking the question....
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:37 PM
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15. Oops typo, I meant Andy. Have keyboard, will edt.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:35 PM
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14. Probably Huckabee


Look! He DID endorse him!


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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:13 PM
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18. Pat Buchanan, or someone similar
Jackson was a populist but a very nasty racist. He was one of the people most responsible for the genocide against the Native Americans.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:06 PM
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20. David Duke?
You realize Andrew Jackson was pretty fucked up, right? I mean, he was one of the Party's founders and all, but he was severely racist, and probably insane.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:01 AM
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21. I wouldn't say insane
Just pretty normal for the period. What we would consider barbaric people in the past would see as normal.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:05 AM
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27. Perhaps, but you can't simply pluck a figure out of history and expect them to support Barack Obama.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:18 AM
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28. Frederick Douglass
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:33 AM
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34. Well, I didn't say "any" figure.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:19 AM
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29. The Poll Was A Lark
It was inspired by another "who would a famous deceased Democrat support?" poll
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:13 AM
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22. Jack Kevorkian.
I think he'd go for Kevorkian, hands down.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:07 AM
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23. Whoever was most in favor of killing Indians n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:18 AM
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24. You beat me to it. Jackson was a genocidal president. Who cares what he would think?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:29 AM
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30. Forgot: Also whoever would reinstate slavery in the South n/t
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:46 AM
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35. Bingo. I know that was a different time
But Jackson was a cold, brutal person (and yes, murderer). Can't stand the man. I think he would have gotten great pleasure with Bush's murdering of the brown people over in Iraq.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:22 AM
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25. deleted by author n/t
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 01:29 AM by IndianaGreen
posted in wrong place. :-(
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:04 AM
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32. Appropriate no one selected Richardson
He would look too much like a Native American for Jackson's tastes.
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