Hillary supporters moaning about anti-HRC posts are getting on my last nerve...

[truebrit71]

...what's the matter? You can dish it out but you can't take it? It's primary season, GET OVER IT...

[William769]

Would you like to give an example?

[Richard Steele]

2. Are you trying to win a DUzy? Because that's pretty funny right there!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. LOL! (psst, watch out for the over-reaction from the hillarians, now.)

What I am waiting for is the 'splainin that they will do when the corrected poll numbers come out and her 33% lead turns out to be as whimsical as my farts.

[William769]

1. Would you like to give an example?

[LynneSin]

3. Here's the scoop - bitch and moan all you want (and oh, I'm not an HRC supporter)

But when I see crap posted about wanting to vote 3rd party (or not voting) if HRC gets the nomination then believe me - I'm gonna scream BULLSHIT!

[rinsd]

4. I don't mind anti-HRC posts, that's politics.

Its the ones that attack us as supporters that are BS.

And they are done every single day.

[Steve_in_California]

5. Here, here

The right Honorable gentleman from Great Britain makes an excellent point. Stop you're whining, Hillary-ites. Your candidate's balloon is about to burst and its a long fall to the bottom.

[juajen]

28. Forgive the audacity; however, I believe it's "hear, hear."

N/T

[Richard Steele]

43. It's EITHER; the spelling is just a matter of personal preference.

"Town Criers" were yelling it for a century before the first
literate "Chronicalers" ever wrote it down.

And by the time that happened, no one knew who first yelled it,
and no one agreed upon which it was: "here", or "hear".

Both make perfect sense in context; I personally prefer "hear hear"
simply because it strikes me as a more PRETENTIOUS affectation, and
therefore provides a better artistic balance to my near-constant
muttering of "rhubarb, rhubarb".

But that's just how -I- roll; your mileage may vary.

[urgk]

45. Really?

Cecil at the Straight Dope is usually pretty good about these things. I'm not saying he has to be right, but I'd like to know if any reliable sources agree with "here, here" as an option.

"Dear Straight Dope:

When you agree with someone, do you say "Here Here!" or "Hear Hear" ? And what does it mean? What is the origin of "Here Here" or "Hear Hear"? --Tymoma195


SDSTAFF Veg replies:


The correct term is, "hear, hear!" It is an abbreviation for "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!"


Of course, if the speaker is actually asking a question, such as "and just where do you think we should open the new strip club?" it's not hard to imagine that at least one yahoo in attendance might yell, "here, here!" But this would be the exception that proves the rule.


--SDSTAFF Veg

Straight Dope Science Advisory Board"

Edit/Update: It has just occurred to me to wonder why a town crier might be shouting his agreement with something anyway. "Hear ye, hear ye" versus "here ye, here ye" as a call for listeners I could see, but I'm a little suspicious about the crier yelling "amen!" at himself.

[Richard Steele]

46. Really.

By the time the first "newspaper reporter" had such a slow news day
that he bothered to mention the well-known fact that people
used the common phrase, "hear, hear", the origins of the phrase
were already lost to history.

Most everyone agreed 'twas a contraction used by "town criers" for
generations before penny broadsheets (What you kids call "newspapers")
were invented , but no one knew just exactly WHAT had been CONTRACTED.

Some said it was short for "Come here, come here", others said
it was short for "Hear ye, hear ye".

By the time anyone cared to ask what it meant, no one really knew for sure anymore.
Just like "hello", or "fuck".

However, if they were alive today, I'm certain they would all agree
that Cecil@theStraightDope is talking out of his ass.

Rhubarb, rhubarb.......

[urgk]

48. Not buying it.

Sure, I appreciate your opinion and all, but I'm still not convinced.

Neither, it seems, are:

1. Merriam Webster - "4 -- often used in the expression Hear! Hear! to express approval (as during a speech)."

2. The Modern British Parliament - "The hon. Member for Witney (Mr. Woodward) sought repeatedly to dismiss as prejudiced those of us who disagree with him.

Ms Armstrong: Hear, hear."

3. Some German guy on the internet -- "The same expression exists in German, and it's "hört, hört" which means "hear, hear".
posted by amf at 9:23 AM on November 1"

4. http://www.phrases.org.uk - Hear hear Meaning A shout of acclamation or agreement. Origin Originated in the British parliament in the 18th century as a contraction of 'hear him, hear him'. It is still often heard there although it is often used ironically these days.

5. The Canadian House of Commons -- "Some hon. members: Hear, hear."

6. And a completely fictional pedant I call "Mr. Todkins of the Libertyville Expresspike" -- "What a completely, utterly, nonsensical, and in fact, downright silly question."



(And on a related side note, it's not "rhubarb, rhubarb," although that is becoming a commonly used modern misspelling. Long before there were directors to shout it in front of nearly illiterate reporters from Hollywood smut rags, Shakespearean actors would mill around deciding where to go after a performance. "Brew. Bar. Brew. Bar." I'd cite it, but my insistence alone should be enough to convince you.)

[Richard Steele]

53. Well, Merriam Webster MIGHT be a slightly better source than I...

More importantly, thanks for setting me straight on the "Brew-Bar" thing! :toast:

[William769]

6. Still waiting.

[truebrit71]

10. Take a look in the forums....if you can't find any get back to me...

...or are you being deliberately foolish?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3576320&mesg_id=3576320

[William769]

11. Whats the old saying?

"put up or shut up".

[truebrit71]

12. You know the old saying?

"stupid is as stupid does"...take a look here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3576320&mesg_id=3576320

Next time don't come to a battle of wits unarmed...

[William769]

13. If she supported Hillary you might have a case, but she doesn't.

Next time don't come to a battle of wits unarmed...

P.S. want to give it another try? :rofl:

[rinsd]

14. Pssst see post #7.

I will now mutter something about when you assume you make an ass out of u & me

[William769]

16. I love threads like this they really speak for themselves!

:rofl:

Just like the one yesterday calling me a liar and then whe he was called on it , he went running for the hills.

[truebrit71]

17. You talking to me? Bring it...

...You obviously have a reading comprehension issue as well as a fetish for women that cackle uncontrollably when confronted with inconvenient truths...

[William769]

19. See post #13.

[truebrit71]

20. See post #69

...read it again...

[William769]

22. Running scared, typical. see ya!

Before I go though you never did prove your assertion, your typical MO.

[truebrit71]

25. I absolutely did, but those HRC-blinders-of-obedience don't allow you to use

your common sense apparently...

Typical MO for an HRCista though...

[MODemocrat]

40. Whoa there; you just stepped on my toes & I don't like that

Just how does being supportive of Hillary Rodham Clinton throw us into a category that you've adjudged
doesn't allow us to use common sense? How juvenile that sounds; surely you don't really mean that;
or maybe you do. It must be miserable to hate someone as much as you do Senator Clinton; as you can't
even bring yourself to say her name with respect. So, I'm a HRCista! whatever that means.:shrug:

[William769]

18. self delete.

[Richard Steele]

42. The old saying is:"It's impossible to awaken a man who is PRETENDING to be asleep."

[LeftCoast]

15. He's not been able to supply a single link.

Kinda sad.

He just throws insults.

[ieoeja]

34. Here you go.

Clicked on GDP and two of the first three threads were Hillary supporters complaining about Hillary opponents. A handful of threads down was a self-professed Edwards supporter complaining about Hillary opponents, but you already rejected that. Several more threads down I finally found a thread criticizing Hillary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3579034
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3578655

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Haha, the jokes on you.

I'm not a Hillary supporter. :P

[rodeodance]

8. Moaners about Hillary supporters moaning about anti-HRC posts are getting on my last nerve...

[truebrit71]

9. Hey! Go start you own thread...

..you thread-jumper you!!!

I am OUTRAGED I TELL YOU!!!


OUTRAGED!!!!


;-)

[Catherine Vincent]

21. You know, actually this is a copycat thread.

I would alert on you but I'll be nice and let it slide. :)

[truebrit71]

23. I'd alert you too....

....for pre-emptively copycatting me...

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. especially the ones who bitch about the . . . . never mind.

methinks a short vacation from the moaning hillarians and those who attack them is in order.

[K8-EEE]

27. I'm gonna have to separate you kids!

LOL, oh primary season. I'm kind of good at ignoring all that stuff!

[EVDebs]

29. RELUCTANTLY is the only way I vote for Hillary. She'll have to win the nod from Dems first

and so far she's busy taking progressives for granted. That's not how you do it.

[watercolors]

30. You don't like, don"t read them!

Isn't that simple enough, some people just lack common sense!

[urgk]

52. Psssst...

Hey...um..I was wondering...how do you know you don't like them unless you read them first?

[KaptBunnyPants]

31. One would think they would be magnanimous...

Their candidate is doing fairly well right now. I'm surprised at what delicate little flowers they are, to open DU and see 3 or 4 posts recommended up to greatest that all are basically whinefests about how unfair it is that she is criticized so. Well, sorry guys, but if you support the most right leaning choice in a Democratic primary then come to DU proselytizing her greatness without so much as a single issue to support your case, don't expect a tea party.

[Forkboy]

32. A lot of candidate's supporters are little babies when it comes to their sacred cow.

[Totally Committed]

33. Leave Hillary Alone!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


TC

[Ethelk2044]

35. That is exactly the point. It seems like they do not have a life.

When it comes to hitting them back they can not take it.

[William769]

36. Looked in a mirror lately?

[Terre]

38. Childish reply

Reminds me of YEARS ago - "I know you are, but what am I?" or something like that. "Sticks and stones may break my bones...."

C'mon people - it's time to grow up.

[ronnykmarshall]

39. No shit.

La Ethel doesn't seem to post anything but Hillary attacks.

At least from what I've read. Could be that Miss Thang might post something, but .... why bother?

[rinsd]

54. Ethel, you are the queen of the hit and run post so your statement is laughable.

Anything from Bozell or Newsmax to post today?

[ronnykmarshall]

37. yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnn!

Uh, please. We can smell bullshit from a mile away.

[illinoisprogressive]

41. Hillary is very divisive, even in her own party. That is just how it is.

[William769]

47. And your proof?

[Larkspur]

50. Agree

The Clintonian triangulation strategy only helps the Clintons and their corporate pimps. I just hope that the Dem Party can survive 8 years of a possible Hillary Clinton presidency. The Dem Party lost members during Bill's 2 terms.

[urgk]

44. To quote a level-headed poster on another thread...

(who happens to be me)...I'd like to present the following bit of advice, which I'm thinking about making my new sig.

"In fact, while I'm at it, I'd like to say that to everybody. Site-wide. Engage in debate, prove each other wrong, learn about the issues, get informed, make rational arguments, but don't resort to childishness, even in response to somebody who's already lowered themselves. I don't know what happened to the idea of "being the bigger person" in any given circumstance, but the immature verbal slapfights I've seen in my short time here should be beneath any informed voter whose opinion is worth a damn. Especially a Democrat. Leave it to the Republicans to shout people down, to substitute cheap Junior High wordplay for reason, to make vague accusations and to generally reduce debate to an Ann Coulterish dodgeball match where everybody thinks they win, but Democracy loses."

[LanternWaste]

49. We used to be about issues, but we're over that now...

Anyone pissing on someone else's candidate is getting on my last nerve.

There is a serious, a precise, and a relevant difference between actual critique and analysis of the opposition candidate's position, and merely pissing on a candidate-- which is becoming all too frequent.

Seems to me that if a person actually begins to trash another candidate, they themselves must be out of ideas, and are resorting to the last resort of the ignorant, and in doing so advertise the basest and the ugliest parts of themselves... much like what Limbaugh does every day.

Sometimes I wish it were limited to the supporters of one candidate, but it seems to be some of the supporters of all the candidates who, being incapable of positive support for their own chosen candidate, decide to engage in Glen Beck style tactics against the other candidate.

This message brought to you by Democratic Underground-- "We used to be about issues, but we're over that now..."

[urgk]

51. I agree. Well said.

See my post directly above yours to the same effect.