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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:15 PM
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So whose payroll is Markos on?
Another new hitpiece on Edwards today on Dailykos.com.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:16 PM
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1. Nobody's. Care to elaborate on said "hitpeice"? EOM
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:18 PM
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2. isn't he a hillarian?
No?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:27 PM
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8. I thought he'd gone all anti-DLC... He's backing Hillary? The Queen of the DLC?
I haven't been over there for a very long time. Sorry to hear that.

TC


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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:52 PM
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19. Dodd or Obama. He does NOT support Hillary. eom
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:58 PM
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24. But, Dodd is DLC, and Obama sometimes might as well be...
I don't get it.

TC


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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:59 PM
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25. Obama is very much not DLC in his mentality.
He criticizes them in his book.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:09 PM
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27. But he SOUNDS like it. He equivocates too much. He's too cautious.
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 03:09 PM by Totally Committed
Makes him seem very "centrist".

TC


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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:56 PM
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30. BUT, he won't pursue DLC policies or
capitulation.

His entire point is that people care too much about how things 'sound' instead of what things happen.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:20 PM
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3. Are you just now trying to figure that out?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:22 PM
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4. Everyone skeptical about Edwards is getting paid? Where's my check?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:24 PM
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5. Who has the most to gain by taking out a second-tier candidate like Edwards?
Biden? Dodd? Ricahrdson?
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:27 PM
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9. Clinton, because she knows Obama has no chance
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:32 PM
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13. She has the most to lose if Edwards were to drop out early
The more candidates who drop out, the more likely the anti-Hillary vote will consolidate behind one candidate.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:35 PM
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14. That's right nt
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:25 PM
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6. LOL
LOL

LOL
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:26 PM
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7. That's because Edwards fans keep bashing him.
And if there's one thing people should know about Kos, it's what he thinks about the proper way to respond to attacks.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:42 PM
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16. Show me one, ONE Edwards supporter bashing him?
geeesh.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:46 PM
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17. Besides the ones accusing him of working for the DLC,
working for Hillary, practicing dirty/corrupt politics, and calling him a Swiftboater?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:26 PM
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20. Like I said, show me ONE....
your examples aren't Edwards supporters, or taken grossly out of context.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:53 PM
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29. Gladly:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/434#c434

"You make up your own mind who you want to sell out to.'

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/210#c210

"Like I Said - Is *Kos* Dirty?"

"Which is entirely a legitimate desire in a political activist. But just slamming the others without explaining fully why is disingenuous at best. Abusing your leadership and trust from your followers to just scare them from 527s, and even from possible Democratic presidential candidates who'd rely on them is what I'd call dirty."

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/77#c77

""Markos Moper" (wah-waaah!)

You're enjoying your day
Everything's going your way
Then along comes Markos Moper.

Always there to tell you 'bout a new disease
Public financing or killer bees
You'll beg him to spare you, "Markos, Please!"
But you can't stop Markos Moper!"

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/76#c76
"kos's first swiftboating (5+ / 0-)

wholly smokes"

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/39#c39

"What is with the swift boating?"

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/437#c437

"Kos, back Romney - $$$ and former liberal (0 / 0)
Those seem to be the qualifications you're looking for"

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/10/4/122718/626/454#c454

"Credibility hit (0 / 0)
Wow Kos, your credibility just plunged for me.
For you to dis the leading dem and support the DLC/AIPAC - backed Hillary is too much. And you base it on speculation, just like the rightwing does."







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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:02 PM
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31. No TR's ? LOL, those are pretty high rated comments...
many agreed. Most I wasn't aware were Edwards supporters, but good comments taken in context of the thread.

No bashing there.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:17 PM
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28. Really?
I see more of a joint effort there, with the exception of a few.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:27 PM
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10. SInce you didn't provide a link..I can only assume you meant this?

Bottom line, all things being equal, we look pretty good regardless of our nominee. Unfortunately, all things are not equal, since Edwards decided to unilaterally disarm in the primary. Too bad, because while none of these guys had an "electability" argument a week ago, the guy who has just given his Republican counterpart (assuming it's not McCain) a $125 million advantage over the summer has definitely taken a hit.


I see nothing at all there that would classify as a "hit-piece"
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:29 PM
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11. You can disagree on what he's saying, but it's not a hit piece
It's his judgment and he has a right to express it, especially considering it is his website.

For anyone interested:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/4/122718/626?detail=f

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:32 PM
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12. No, I Heard It Myself From Tweety & His Guests After The last Debate!
Those in D.C. HATE Edwards and while THEY wouldn't name names, it WAS said! Why do they hate him?? He wants to shake up their life-style and the money "grubbers" are pissed! It's pretty simple, and when it's talked about so very openly by MSM you can bet they're going against him.

Obama isn't really Hillary's worst threat, and I LIKE Obama a lot... but it IS really John Edwards and THEY who have the MONEY & POWER have a dog in this very important fight!

In the end, I think WE lose!! JMHO!!



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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:36 PM
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15. Since I have a lifetime subscription to his site.....
I guess that would put him on my payroll :evilgrin:

He's had a bad week with bad advice, and he certainly doesn't understand PubFi.



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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:51 PM
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18. Should he be criticized for supporting one candidate over another?
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 01:54 PM by ejbr
Dailykos is made up of progressives who have no trouble thinking for themselves, unlike the GOP flakes who take Rush, the Hag, Savage and O'Lielly at their word.

Anyway, I have seen many more pro-Edwards diaries at Kos than anything else and all of their self-contained polls have Edwards as the site favorite by far. In any case, no one is immune to criticism on that site as far as I can tell.

Even still, if the facts are true, then it should be posted. I know Edwards is not perfect-- particularly his hair, he should spend more money on haircuts-- but I am most certain he will remain my choice til the end.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:36 PM
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21. I doubt he is on anyone's payroll. I just think he is leaving options
open. Apparently, he is opposed to Edwards saying yes to public funds. Since you provided no link, I have no idea what post you are referring to.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:39 PM
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22. Here is a link to the article:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/4/122718/626

By accepting public financing, Edwards will be reliant on 527's and fat cat soft-money DNC donors to overcome a 100 million dollar disadvantage in the summer. It seems like a very bad move to me.
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citizen53 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:49 PM
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23. When Kos says this, it becomes a fair question:
That's why I passionately believe in candidates funded by small-dollar contributions, beholden to people, not big dollar donors. And while we're not quite there yet, and have a lot of work to get there, Edwards isn't doing anything this cycle to get us there. In fact, shutting out small-dollar donors and pushing for bigger dollar ones to the DNC and 527 would be a step backwards.


This put down of Edwards is pure garbage. Kos has gone big time. He looks askance at the big money in the Obama and Clinton campaigns. It's a contracdictory message, and it will grow harsher as time passes.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:01 PM
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26. "not quite there yet" is an illogical pomp, Kos struggles to push the horses back in the barn.
It's like saying to that 6' 4" State Trooper hovering over your driver's door window with the big angry on, that you "meant" to go the speed limit.

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