Clinton has now signed the Anti-Torture pledge (just happened)

[rinsd]

Clinton Endorses Anti-Torture Pledge

October 04, 2007 3:19 PM

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports : Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has endorsed the principles of an anti-torture pledge circulated by a liberal organization, after facing criticism as the only Democratic candidate for president to withhold her support for a blanket statement condemning torture.

Clinton responded to the group sponsoring the pledge shortly after ABC News reported that she had declined to do so, though the campaign said the letter was being prepared before ABC made its inquiries.

The anti-torture pledge, initiated by the American Freedom Campaign -- a group founded by a coalition of civil-liberties groups and liberal activists -- commits the candidates to disavowing some of the controversial tactics employed by the Bush administration.

"We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap people's phones and emails without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power," the statement reads. "I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from assault by any President."

More at the link - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/10/clinton-wont-si.html

[sueh]

1. What took her so long?

[Ian David]

4. Do you know how much work it is to put together a focus group?

Sorry, I just had to say that.








Ducking for cover.

[againes654]

2. Good for her.

I do NOT mean that in a sarcastic tone.

[Ian David]

3. Okay, I'm back in the "Anyone But Biden" camp again. Hillary is no longer on my shit-list. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. She also hasn't signed the pledge affirming the Constitution

like all the other Dem candidates have done. I realize these things are symbolic, but these days symbols count. What's she been doing, waiting for the focus groups to weigh in?

Come on, Hill. We know it's pretty hard to triangulate stuff like torture and the Constitution, but maybe it's time to show us you believe in something.

[rinsd]

7. I thought the affirming the Constitution pledge was the anti-toture pledge?

:shrug:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1976962

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Oh, my bad -- you're right. Opposing torture was part of the pledge

to uphold the Constitution. Well, then; good. She signed it -- finally. I still want to know why she was the last, not the first, to sign it. You'd think all the candidates would be falling over each other, pens in hand, to get to the thing. Seems like Hillary had to wait and see how it "played" first.

[rinsd]

16. Unfortunately I am inclined to agree with you.

I doubt she would have signed it this week if she was not the last Dem to do so and was hearing about it.

[saracat]

6. Good for her but it obviously wasn't a priority. but nevertheless, she signed it!

[Adelante]

8. That's good

:thumbsup:

[jillan]

9. "after facing criticism" - gee, can't wait for the new flip-flops

Kerry did not change his positions hardly ever and look at what they did to him.

Is this what we are going to continue to get from our girl? Everytime she takes an unpopular stand, she is going to change her mind.

Even Webb didn't fall for her bs when she signed onto his amendment!

[redqueen]

11. Did she? Where does it say that?

It only says she endorses it.

Well if she endorses it, she should sign it.

[wyldwolf]

12. Question: Did she ever state she wouldn't sign it or had she just not signed it by the time ...

... the others have?

[MGKrebs]

13. As if they wouldn't have to pledge to defend the Constitution anyway.

And in a lot more binding way.

Can a pledge request from the Boy Scouts be far behind?

[killbotfactory]

14. Good!

There was no reason not to.

[MGKrebs]

15. "Hmm, let's see. I'm going to violate the Constitution, but I better not sign

this pledge, because that will REALLY get me in trouble."


What a juvenile exercise.