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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:43 PM
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Richardson has no interest in Senate seat
CNN: October 4, 2007
Richardson has no interest in Senate seat

WASHINGTON (CNN) – New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson has no interest in seeking the seat of retiring Republican Sen. Pete Domenici, a senior political adviser to the governor tells CNN. “Gov. Richardson is running for the White House unequivocally, and we are going to be the Democratic nominee,” the adviser said.

Richardson is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, but there have been rumors that he would drop out of the race and run for the Senate if Domenici retired....

The senior Richardson adviser noted that if Richardson does not win the Democratic nomination, he will return to his job as governor. Richardson made a similar comment during a recent CNN editorial board meeting. “He has no interest,” in the Senate seat, the adviser emphasized. “He will go back and continue his job as governor serving the people of New Mexico.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/04/richardson-has-no-interest-in-senate-seat/
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:49 PM
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1. Exactly. I'm been trying to tell other DU'ers this on other threads, to no avail.
What I've said to the doubters is why would someone like Richardson at this stage in his career, go to the broken Senate? That's not what he wants. He's serious about his run for the Presidency.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:12 AM
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4. Broken senate? Yeah with 49 actual Dems it's broken but @ 60 it wouldn't be
Richardson is by far the worst DINO of the 2008 candidates so don't expect him to do something good for progressives.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:56 PM
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2. America has no interest in a Richardson presidency
Either Bill Richardson is going to have to adjust his goals or tens of millions of Democratic primary and caucus voters will have to adjust their goals. The former plan seems more realistic.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:08 AM
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3. That was brutal....
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:20 AM
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10. Maybe, but it's accurate. Richardson continues to come in with single digits in the polls.
If he doesn't break 10% in the polls by Thanksgiving, I don't give him much of a chance to stay in after February.

The primaries are much earlier and many more delegates are up for grabs earlier than ever before.
This primary season is going to be like a big snowball rolling down a hill, gaining more momentum until it hits the bottom like an avalanche.
Whoever is in 4th place at the end of January has a good chance of hanging around until March and surviving February's primaries.

But . . whoever comes in at 6, 7, or 8 are going to find themselves frozen out of the process by the end of Jamuary - whoever they are.
There just won't be enough time for them to rebound before February's onslaught of primaries.

Almost half of the delegates will have been spoken for by March 1st.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:21 AM
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12. He is in double digits in early states where he is
campaigning and able to get his message out.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:30 AM
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23. Because 10% barely qualified as double digits, Richardson could be considered as being "in double
digits" in Iowa.

But remember Iowa is a caucus state, not a primary state. A candidate who does not get at least 15% in a precinct caucus gets NOTHING.

Plus, Iowa generally gives the winner a 12% to 16% boost in New Hampshire's primary and Iowa generally gives the third place finisher (and those who place worse than third) at least a 3% to 5% dip in New Hampshire.

Being in fourth place in Iowa (whether that's Richardson or Biden) means it is over for the campaign. In fact, being in third place means it's over for anyone but, maybe, Hillary (and there is a decent argument that even Hillary couldn't survive an Obama 1st, Edwards 2nd, Hillary 3rd finish in Iowa in the unlikely event that is the result in Iowa's caucus).
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:36 AM
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6. Richardson is still in this, he has an outside shot.
Clinton is just a bad national candidate, who has little chance to win a general election. If that happens it looks like America will have to get used to another awful Repubelican presidency.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:52 AM
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8. Hillary, Edwards, Obama, and (perhaps) Biden have a better chance. That leaves no real chance.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:23 AM
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13. Richardson lately has been the only non top tier candidate gaining
support.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:11 AM
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15. No. Biden and Richardson are both gaining support, but neither will finish higher than 4th at best
and probably 5th and 6th, respectively.

Kucinich does not appear to be gaining support, but he's holding his base of support which may be larger than the best likely scenario for either Biden or Richardson.

In Iowa, I see Edwards and Hillary battling for 1st, Obama solidly 3rd, Kucinich probably 4th, and Richardson battling with Biden for 5th.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:51 AM
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19. It's true that Biden is picking up a little.
But that has been Richardson's trajectory since the spring.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:10 AM
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20. Obama and Edwards have only a slim chance of stopping Hillary. Biden and Richardson have no chance.
If Hillary wins Iowa, it's over -- she wins.

If Edwards or Obama wins Iowa and Hillary comes in second, it's a two candidate race netween the winner in Iowa vs. Hillary going into New Hampshire because no candidate other than Hillary can survive finishing third place or worse in Iowa.

The only reasonably likely scenario where the Iowa caucus doesn't end the race or at least narrow it down to no more than two candidates is if Edwards and Obama finish first and second (in either order).
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:12 AM
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21. So are you god?
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:37 AM
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24. Shhh! I like to post here anonymously but, between you and me, yes I'm god.
Seriously, Obama's campaign and Edwards' campaign have both acknowledged that they probably cannot survive a second place finish in Iowa.

Given that even Obama and Edwards are acknowledging this dynamic, isn't it unrealistic to think that Richardson (or my preference, Kucinich, or Biden too for that matter) can survive without winning Iowa? Under what scenario can Richardson jump from fourth to first over the next three months in Iowa?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:39 AM
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26. It ain't over until all the counting is done.
Thanks god ;-) Your secret is safe.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:44 AM
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27. Of course, that's true. It's equally true that the 0-4 Miami Dolphins could still win the Super Bowl
this season -- that why we actually play the games instead of awarding the trophies based on the rankings after the first quarter of the season is done.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:18 AM
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22. And yet...
of all of the candidates, he's the best qualified to be president. It's baffling.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:47 AM
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28. Not baffling to me. Of all the candidates, he's also the least progressive.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:02 PM
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29. Really?
Richardson, also the governor New Mexico, pointed to a 76-22 vote in the Senate last week on a resolution urging the State Department to designate Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization.

Hillary Rodham Clinton was the only Democratic senator who is running for president to vote for the measure. Richardson criticized her vote.

"Calling them names, labeling them terrorists, drawing up military options is just making the situation worse and inflaming the Muslim world," he said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070930/ap_on_el_pr/richardson

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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 01:54 PM
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30. By his own admission, Richardson is to the right of the other candidates:
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 01:55 PM by Tejanocrat
He stood at the center of "Spin Alley" -- a room given over to candidates and their chosen mouthpieces for hours of post-debate "analysis." And Richardson was analyzing away.

"I came out as the most moderate candidate with the clearest position on Iraq," Richardson insisted as he took a slug from a bottle of water. "I'm a different kind of Democrat."

Richardson was working overtime -- hence the sweat -- to sell that message, a pitch he had struggled to make during the 90-minute debate, where he often looked uncomfortable on stage and failed to distinguish himself from the other "second-tier" candidates.

For Richardson, Spin Alley offered a second bite at the apple, a unique opportunity to change conventional wisdom before it hardened.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/conten...

"I am not a rock star, but I've got a solid record," he said. "I have got serious experience. I get things done."

Richardson is a former congressman, an ambassador to the United Nations and Secretary of Energy under President Clinton. A staunch supporter of the Second Amendment, he said he believes he is the party's moderate candidate.

http://www.charleston.net/assets/webPages/...

Moving from foreign policy Richardson struck a theme of being "practical, pragmatic, and patriotic." He struck that chord frequently and often; He noted numerous times that he was a pro-business moderate Democrat who was running in the center and would not be swayed.  He said he will not be liberalized by Iowa or New Hampshire...

http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary...

Also, Richardson is the most pro-NAFTA of all the candidates:

"NAFTA was critically important, and not only for the reasons commonly cited by its supporters. Yes, the treaty would create the world's largest free-trade region, a market of 360 million people in the US, Canada, and Mexico. Estimates of NAFTA's economic impact varied, but the treaty promised to be a win-win-win for all three countries.

That didn't mean the absence of dislocation: while NAFTA figured to create more jobs in the US, some jobs would be lost. A key part of the final bill presented to Congress needed to include worker-adjustment programs and other so-called side agreements addressing such issues as labor standards and the environment.

I felt the treaty was crucial to Mexico. I thought NAFTA would create positive economic change and help to stimulate a broader political debate. I thought it also had the potential to affect the immigration issue: if Mexico's economy boomed, beter-paying jobs would provide Mexicans an incentive to stay home."

Source: Between Worlds, by Bill Richardson, p.112-3 Nov 3, 2005
...

Q: Do you support broadening North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to include other countries?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you support the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT)?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you support the WTO?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you support imposing tariffs on products imported from nations that maintain restrictive trade barriers on American products?
A: No....

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Bill_Richa...

He's the most pro-NRA of all the candidates:

A large man sitting in a small office, wearing a brown suede vest and heavy, battered boots, Richardson clearly revels in his image as the quintessential Westerner. "You have to talk about guns in the context of lifestyle, recreation, a way of life," the Governor argues, rather than as just a measure to prevent murders and deaths. Democrats need to move into a void in the West. ...; "Richardson’s a very politically astute individual," says Robert Goode, NRA regional representative for West Texas and New Mexico. "He knows you’re beating your head against a wall when you go after the firearms issue. And he backs his words with his votes." Goode continues that, if a candidate like Richardson ran for the presidency, he believes the NRA would step back and not take a partisan stance on the election. Goode’s colleague Charles Weisleder, a 70-year-old NRA lobbyist, agrees. "Richardson," says Weisleder, a bald man smiling broadly over coffee at an Albuquerque Shoney’s, "got a lot of gun votes because of what he said to us. A lot of people are driven by the firearms issue."


The NRA likes Richardson and has for a long time. I particularly like his open and public support for shall issue concealed carry:
"He’s been a pretty solid guy on the gun issue," Van Horn, a member of the NRA’s board of directors, said.... "He has treated us first class," said Kayne Robinson, NRA’s executive director for general operations.

http://www.snubnose.info/wordpress/news/bi...

He's the most pro-death-penalty of all the candidates:

"I am in favor of NM's death penalty law. It sends a strong message of zero tolerance for heinous crimes, and it provides certain justice for the victim's families.

At the same time, we must ensure that capital punishment is applied equally, without regard for race or economic status, and we must work to apply DNA testing to make sure only the guilty are executed.

I support the proposal to make the murder of a child under 11 years old an 'aggravating circumstance' and eligible for the death penalty."

Source: Campaign web site, RichardsonForGovernor.com, "Priorities" Oct 24, 2002

Broaden use of the death penalty for federal crimes.

Impose "truth in sentencing" for violent criminals so they serve full sentences with no chance of parole.

Limit the number of appeals allowed to inmates on death row.

Fund programs to provide prison inmates with vocational and job-related skills.

Expand funding for community policing programs.<br>  * Prosecute youths accused of murder as adults.

Source: 1996 Congressional National Political Awareness Test Nov 1, 1996
Voted NO on maintaining right of habeus corpus in Death Penalty Appeals.

Vote on an amendment to delete provisions in the bill that would make it harder for prisoners who have been given the death penalty in state courts to appeal the decision on constitutional grounds in the federal courts ("Habeas Corpus").

Bill HR 2703 ; vote number 1996-64 on Mar 14, 1996

Voted YES on making federal death penalty appeals harder.

Vote on a bill to make it harder for prisoners who have been given the death penalty in state courts to appeal the decision on constitutional grounds in the federal courts.

Bill HR 729 ; vote number 1995-109 on Feb 8, 1995

Voted NO on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment.

Amendment to replace death penalty crimes in the 1994 Omnibus Crime Bill with life imprisonment.

Bill HR 4092; vote number 1994-107 on Apr 14, 1994

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Bill_Richa...

In addition to these policy issues, Richardson has also shown himself to be very comfortable with the appointment of partisan Republicans in a hypothetical Richardson administration.

For example, when Richardson says he would appoint Bush family consigliere James Baker as a foreign policy envoy in a Richardson administration:

Whoever Richardson's foreign policy handler is, he failed miserably:
Richardson entered a room full of reporters. He didn't have much time, so the number of questions was limited. I knew what question will produce the headline we wanted: Who's the envoy Richardson has in mind. They always fall for this question if they come unprepared, and Richardson proved just that. Israel, he said, should be a bi-partisan issue he said charitably. And with this sense of bi-partisanship in mind pulled out of his hat the first name he could think of: Former Secretary of State James Baker.

We're willing to be charitable and file this under "he just didn't know any better". It's the same as what we said about Dean when he dropped that "the US should be even-handed" comment during the election (an incident that Rosner also compares to this gaffe) - no one had ever bothered telling him that "even handed" is nudge-nudge wink-wink anti-Israel among people who talk about the Middle East. So we're not taking this as an admission Richardson actually wants one of the most anti-Israel American diplomats in recent history to run the the peace process.

http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11273...

Bill Richardson has a problem that may be harder for him to get out of. During a speech to the National Jewish Democratic Council, Richardson stated that he would consider appointing James Baker as his special envoy to the Middle East. Shmuel Rosner writes about the serious problems that this indicates in the Richardson campaign:

...Baker, as I mentioned in the article published in Haaretz today, was a member of an administration "widely viewed as the most hostile ever to Israel." ... Richardson builds his whole case on the argument that he is the experienced, knowledgeable, sophisticated candidate ... That makes this Baker gaffe a lose-lose situation for him. Either he admits it was a gaffe - which makes all this bragging about experience seem quite silly. Or he can stick to the Baker proposal - which makes the pro-Israel bragging quite questionable.

"This is what happened when a candidate doesn’t have a professional campaign, and professional staff making sure that he is well prepared to such events," a knowledgeable professional told me after hearing about Richardson’s remarks. This, he said, will never happen to Hillary Clinton. And judging by her performance this morning at the NJDC I tend to agree.

This type of gaffe will significantly hurt Richardson on the foreign policy front for many of the reasons indicated above. Bill Richardson and Eli Suissa Whereas Romney can afford to punt, silence from Richardson on the issue will only make potential supporters look past him and to the front runners.

http://2008central.net/?p=544

I have even more concern about Richardson's support for Attorney General Al Gonzalez:
Tavis: It occurs to me now, listening to you talk about your friend who you know, Mr. Gonzalez, it draws a stark contrast between—I haven't checked where all the other candidates are, but I know Obama is on record very clearly saying Gonzalez should step down. I suspect other Democrats running for president are maybe saying the same thing. That's a contrast between you and others on whether or not this guy should step down.
Richardson: That's right. I do believe that it's up to a president to make those decisions about Cabinet members. Obviously, Alberto's very damaged, and he's gotta be frank and testify and do what has to happen. But I think that's up to the president.<p>
Tavis: So you would not call for his stepping down right now.<p>
Richardson: No, no. And you know what? Part of it maybe is because he's the highest-ranking Hispanic ever.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archiv...

We know Richardson did simply misspeak when he said his support for Gonzalez was racial because Richardson has repeated that statement:
Presidential candidate and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) said Monday the reason he has not called for the removal of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is that the two both have Hispanic backgrounds.

Richardson, in an interview with The Hill, said he is "pretty close" to making such a call, but added that he is reluctant to do so before Gonzales’s Senate testimony despite the high-profile involvement of New Mexico in the U.S. attorneys scandal.

"The only reason I’m not there is because he’s Hispanic, and I know him and like him," Richardson said, adding, "It’s because he’s Hispanic. I’m honest."


http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/gov.-rich...
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 10:58 PM
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37. He's the best national candidate by far, though. He WILL win if nominated.
He's progressive enough to be the Democratic nominee.

He gives you Colorado, Nevada etc. He can close out the Repukes very early in the night. The Repukes can't stop him.
The frontrunning Senators can't win in most of the battlegrounds, and are a bad bet to win in the general. They each have voting records that will be ripped to shreds. (Flip-flopping etc.)
Only 1 Senator has done it for the Dems in modern history.
If we want to win, we've got to go with Richardson.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:21 AM
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5. I want to see Tom Udall run and beat . . .
the skanky witch that Domenici has chosen as his successor, and announced she is running today.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 12:50 AM
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7. hello cyber-g
let's see, skanky witch Pete has chosen... wonder who could that possibly be...
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:38 PM
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32. If she wins . . .
then nothing will ever get better. She will continue to serve the fascist status quo we have now. I expected her to lie and cheat her way into winning just like she has in past elections. I've been waiting to get Pete out of office since the 1970s. I've waited to too long for another "mini-she" to take his place.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:17 AM
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17. Oh no, is it who I think it is?
?
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Musty Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:38 AM
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25. I agree with you, Cybergata...
...but who do you think should run for Udall's seat? It'll stay Democratic, but of the names I've heard--Javier Gonzales, Rebecca Vigil-Jiron--these two don't inspire me. However, until Feb. and Richardson drops out of the prez race, Udall can't/won't declare. Udall could declare before then if Richardson tells Tom, personally, that he won't run for the Senate. Like Joe Monahan says in his blog, "It's Big Bill's world and we just live in it."

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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:29 PM
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31. I suspect Bill . . .
is working for either the Vice Presidency or to be Secretary of State. I bet he'd be a really good Secretary of State. I trust the northern part of the state to chose a good person for Congress. They've always pick good people before. The only problem is there aren't a lot of politicians who are worth a sh*t anywhere. Udall is the one politician I have faith in. His family has always been about serving the public.

I dislike the skanky bulimic witch so much I'm ready to work for just about anyone who runs against her. The skank gets money from all the wrong lobbyists, and votes the party line way too much.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:07 AM
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9. Big mistake. I think he'd make a good Senator. He should have jumped at the chance.
He could have helped to repair America after Bush is out of office. He won't have as much impact as a Governor.
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:23 AM
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11. Right Now He's Saying That
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 05:23 AM by divineorder
But unless there is a Dean-like surge coming in about a couple of months for him, he might as well be Senator Richardson than have a political career end in about two years. He won't want to be Governor again. At least as a Senator, he'd have national visibility and a change to make a national mark. If the Dem loses in 2008, Senator Richardson could run in 2012 with a Senate seat already in his pocket-a Senate seat that could generate news for him. If the Dem wins in 2008, then he's facing an 8 year drought of opportunity. And a Cabinet position makes it difficult to run. He can't appear to be too partisan, and is forever tied to the Administration's image. I think if nothing happens by say, December, Richardson will realize that and change his mind.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:18 AM
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14. And we need that Senate seat -- and from postings here, I understand Richardson...
would likely win it.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 10:40 PM
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35. Yes, but we need him here as governor . . .
of New Mexico, but I suspect that he is using the governorship as a spring board to the presidency. I think he has his sight set on the white house, if not this election, then future ones. He wants to be the first Hispanic President, IMHO.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 10:37 PM
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34. Did you ever consider . . .
that he is vying for Secretary of State or Vice President? Both of these can be a step toward a future run for president. If there is one thing that I can definitely say about my governor, he is intelligent. Richardson can run for governor of New Mexico for the rest of his life, and I suspect we in New Mexico will elect him every year he does.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:16 AM
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16. Bill should reconsider. That Senate seat looks tempting.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:18 AM
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18. I'd rather live in Santa Fe than in D.C.
being president might tempt me, but not Senator.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 10:46 PM
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36. Yeah, so would I, yet . . .
even if I was born and raised there & even have ancestors who were born there in 1607 and 1610, I can't afford to live there since the ricos moved in and pushed Hispanic New Mexicans out. :argh:
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:44 PM
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33. He should run for Senate...
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