Clark on Kyl-Lieberman: "I put a call into Hillary on this afterwards."

[calteacherguy]

He said, “I’m uneasy about it. You know, I put a call into Hillary on this afterwards. I may have voted for it just because what the amendment says is true, the guard has been carrying out terrorist activities, in supporting Hezbollah and all that. I’m just so concerned though, because there’s no talk. There are just threats.”

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13519

[saracat]

1. Clark should never have endorsed her.He deserves to be uneasy and he knows

he would NEVER have voted for that. He hasn't sold his soul yet.

[calteacherguy]

2. Oh, c'mon.

He endorsed her because he wants to have influence. He's a strategic thinker. He looked at the political landscape and made a strategic decision as to what he thought would give the greatest chances of influencing policy in a direction he wants it influenced. He's not in it for himself, he's trying to do all he can to enact change.

Edit: By the way, this isn't the only instance he's said he's "uneasy" about it. He's used the same language in several recent interviews over the past week.

On another subject, it's quite clear that Clark is very open to a VP slot. I've been listening to radio interviews he's been giving across the country, and it's clear by the way he answers the question he would not refuse the offering. He also said "I'd love to run again at some point" just two days ago on KGO radio in S.F. I think I know what Clark's long-term strategic plan may be.

He's taking the long view.

[saracat]

3. Unlike Hillary who is definately "in it for herself".If Hillary is elected, we will not see any

change.She has proven many times over that change is not what she is about. If Clark wants "change" he backed the wrong horse.

[calteacherguy]

4. Imo, he backed the horse he felt was going to be the winner.

You may not agree with his assesment, but that's part of why he did it, imo. He also believes she will bring a good team with her to the White House, he was part of the "team" before, after all.

Personally, I would feel more comfortable with a Clinton presidency with Clark than one without Clark. He said he believes she will listen to him. I can't believe that he won't have at least some degree of influence. The Clintons respect him. Winning friends and influencing people...isn't that what politics is? :shrug:

[saracat]

5. Not in Hillary's book.She is only about grasping power. Bill was able to

win friends and to some degree this election is still about his ability to charm.I also believe Bill was capable of listening to others.I have not gotten that impression from Hillary. She seems to have a stubborn streak reminiscent of Bush. She seems inacpable of admitting a mistake. I hope Clark insn't going to regret this endorsement.

[mitchtv]

9. dry up

[saracat]

10. NEVER.

[Milo_Bloom]

13. That's a pretty harsh charge against Clark.

"Imo, he backed the horse he felt was going to be the winner."

Backing the horse you feel is going to be the winner, in the hopes that you MAY be included in the decisions making process IS selling out your priciples for politics.

It is absolutely no different than what Colin Powell did in joining the bush administration.

[goodgd_yall]

17. I agree with you here, ctg

And I also could stomach a Clinton presidency better with someone who recognized the danger of the Lieberman/Kyl amendment. I'm glad it made him "uneasy."

[journalist3072]

6. Flame bait post. Instead of going off your emotions, why don't you try

Dealing with facts.

You have no proof that Hillary is in this "for herself." Have you talked to her or gotten inside her head?

[saracat]

7. When have you ever heard of Hillary defending another Dem from the RW?

And exactly what did she do to support Kerry in 2004?

It seems the Clinton machine led by MacAuliffe, who as DNC Chair should have been more concerned with the Democratic Candidate than the Clintons, was more concerned with a potential Clinton presidency than the state of the nation. How convenient that MacAuliffe is now Hillary's Campaign Chair. Oh and didn't she "promise" the people of the state of NY that she wasn't running for Prez, as she asked them to re-elect her as Senator? But, like her Kyl/Lieberman vote I suppose that is all "political expedience".

And you think there is no evidence that Hillary is "in it for herself'? What other reason does she indicate she is in it for? Oh, yes, she states "I'm in it to WIN".

[journalist3072]

15. Revisionist history on your part

All 3 Clintons (Hillary, Chelsea and even Bill just weeks after his heart surgery) campaigned for John Kerry.

And you must not have heard Sen. Clinton on any of the Sunday talking heads shows about 2 Sundays ago. Anytime she was asked about the MoveOn ad, she said she didn't like attacks against people like Max Cleland and John Kerry either. She mentioned them by name.

So get your facts straight before attacking Sen. Clinton.

[saracat]

18. Yeah right. I do remember and it was minimal effort . And so she threw in Kerry and

Cleland after all this time? Now, when it doesn't matter to either of them? Please. Now it only serves to make her "look good". Where was she at the time of the attacks? Or have you forgotten the time she jumped on Kerry for his "botched" joke.She jumped right in with the GOP in piling on.Of course that was when he might have been a potential opponent so that is cool with her people isn't it? It is not me that needs to get my facts straight.

[journalist3072]

19. Minimal effort? President Clinton went to places like New Mexico to campaign for John Kerry just

weeks after having quadruple bypass. In Philidelphia, the Kerry campaign had to map out a shorter route to the stage for President Clinton, since he was still weak.

Chelsea Clinton gave her first political speech for John Kerry. She never gave a political speech for either of her parents' campaigns; yet, her first political speech was one supporting the Kerry/Edwards ticket.

And Hillary campaigned as well.

Yet, you call that minimal?

Grow up.

[saracat]

20. Nothing is going to convince you of the reality of the Clinton participation in 2004.Enjoy your

koolaid. Next you will insist that Carville was supporting Kerry too!

[journalist3072]

21. You are the one drinking the kool-aid, my friend. Enjoy your ignorance. eom

[saracat]

22. Back at cha!

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[saracat]

24. I admit no such thing. Are you incapable of being civil or respecting a viewpoint that

differs from your own? I have done quite a bit of research to arrive at my conclusions and I can readily admit when I have been mistaken which is more than some others. I originally started out as a fan of the Clinton's, and Bill is still one of the most charming people I have ever met. However the more I learned about the Clinton's the less I liked. I have a right to my opinions, just as you do to yours. It would be nice if those opinions could be respected.

I do not know what kind of a journalist you are, but you certainly seem to jump the gun. I have been asked to interview many well known political figures for television because it is said they like to talk to me. I got the only interview with Teresa Heinz Kerry in my state.I wonder if anyone would like talking to one such as yourself with such an air of condescension?

[Clark2008]

11. Clark IS the change.

Should he be the Veep, we'll see a big change in FP.

[Cameron27]

8. I won't second guess Clark on this,

but I think that voting for Kyl-Lieberman was unnecessary, even if it was de-clawed.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Didn't like her vote.....because it was unecessary......

and disagree with Clark on this vote of hers because it wasn't neccessary.

period.

[janx]

14. It sure didn't endear us to the Iranians, that's for sure.

What a diplomatically dumb thing to do...

[ShortnFiery]

16. Oh brother, the mighty former General Officer will square away the little lady.

Just when I think the Pro-HRC Hype couldn't get any more duplicous or inane, they go and publish this shit. :eyes: