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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:19 PM
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The Clintons, The Company They Keep, and Who Raises Money for Them
Worst Clinton Contributor Ever
by Stephen Pizzo



Farhad Azima: Born in Iran in 1941, into a
family that was reportedly close to the Shah.



It was a Clinton Inc. media tour de force. This power couple have always been a team, and they still are. Anyone who thinks the timing of Bill's goodness offensive and Hillary's race for the Democratic Party nomination are mere coincidence just haven't been paying attention for the last twenty years or so.


As the couple knew they would, the media took bait. The Clintons called the tune and as they twirled to the that tune a real story lurked right under their lazy noses. a story that says a lot more about the Clintons than the puffy "did she laugh too much" pablum the media spun for public consumption.

>snip

With all those goodies up for grabs someone in Washington decided that what little Azerbaijan needed most right now was a Chamber of Commerce. Of course, not their own chamber of commerce but a US/Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. From the USACC website:


ABOUT US

The United States - Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce (USACC) is an independent, nonprofit organization based in Washington D.C., whose purpose is to facilitate business and cooperation between the United States and Azerbaijan. Established in 1995, the Chamber has grown to become a major Azerbaijan-focused organization in the United States.


Among the US luminaries making up the Azerbaijan/US Chamber's “Honorary Counsel of Advisers,”


* James Baker III
* Henry Kissenger
* Brent Scowcroft
* John Sununu Sr.
* Zbigniew Brzezinski


Listed as “Former Members of the Honorary Counsel of Advisers,”

*Dick Cheney
*Richard Armatige


And who do we find right up there at the top of the list of members of the board of directors? Yes. Farhad Azima. Also listed is GOP presidential hopeful, Sen. Sam Brownback. And there too is one of the chief Neo-Con Iraq War architects, Richard Perle.

Some company for a guy suddenly cozying up to Bill and Hillary Clinton, wouldn't you say?

Entire long-but-worth-it article:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/opedne_stephen__071005_worst_clinton_contri.htm


TC
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:26 PM
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1. A note for all those who think we're kooky to think her too conservative:
At times it's very important to avoid even the *appearance* of impropriety.

or

When you sleep with rats, don't be surprised if you get fleas.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:29 PM
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2. Did you even read this? This post alleges nothing about the Clintons.
It's a post about some guy, with a lot of snarky verbiage about the clintos thrown in at random. It's like a Mad-Libs thing.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:33 PM
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6. Did YOU read it?
You want this back in the White House again?

What does it take to get through to some peope about how sleazy and disgusting all this is -- The Magna Carta? It's an article from the web. I can't believe people as intelligent as DU-ers need pictures drawn for them before they realize what's going on.

TC


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:44 PM
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15. I sit at the feet of your wisdom...
Some of us have already figured out we aren't going to get a perfect world no matter how hard we try. And that Mahatma Gandhi isn't running for president on either ticket.

Jimmy Breslin (no fool) once said "No one ever reaches the presidency in a state of grace." If you don't believe that, maybe YOU don't realize what's going on.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:01 PM
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23. Two words:
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 05:02 PM by Totally Committed



Seriously.

I don't expect a state of grace, but a shred of integrity might be nice.

TC

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:29 PM
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3. They make my skin crawl.
Ugh. :puke:

TC


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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:30 PM
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4. Please, someone convince me to vote for this person.
Every time I finally come around to saying "ok, I'll hold my nose and push the button"
Another article like this comes around.
Dont tell me this is just Hill inc. haters trying to run her name through the mud.
I call bullshit on that. I've already read three articles today that sound alarm bells for me.

I want to vote for her but the more I learn the more I see Bu$h with brains.

Someone, please convince me. I dont want to be the guy we all point at and say
" see, if you just voted for Hill inc., Rudy wouldnt be our president"
please help
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:36 PM
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10. Don't. VOTE YOUR CHOICE IN THE PRIMARY.
But if you do not respect the majority choice in the general, you ain't a Democrat.

And don't you dare attempt to tell me Rudy Giuliani will make better court appointments than any of our Democratic candidates.

BTW, where is Ralph (there is no difference) Nader these days?
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:51 PM
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19. I guess your right...I'm not a Democrat
There you go, I've been outed.
Are you kidding me? now your gonna tell me how to think?
I didnt say I wouldnt vote for a Dem in the GE, just not her.
I want to sooooo bad but I also want to retain any integrity I might imagine having.

and dont you dare attempt to tell me how to think! I've had enough of that shit!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:03 PM
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25. .
:applause:


TC

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:01 PM
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39. bravo.
and no kidding. haven't we had Enough of someone telling us what to think/fear?
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 06:43 AM
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46. Does this article and the responses to it tell me what to think?
I don't understand what you mean by saying "enough of someone telling us what to think/fear.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:55 PM
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38. who exactly is the majority?
I think we can agree that Hillary is getting the nod from the pundits and from the media. At least it's quite apparent to me. They have already decided for us all. What majority are you talking about, certainly not the people who will be voting.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:17 PM
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41. Your logic is sound. I guess they didn't really want someone to convince them of anything.
Now you're telling em what to think! Geez they shouldn't be asking for help if they don't really mean it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:32 PM
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5. That's nice, dear. Who would she choose for the Supreme Court?
BTW, what job did they think an energetic buttinsky ex-President like Clinton SHOULD pursue when he left office?

Too disingenuous by half, darlings.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:33 PM
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7. Obviously sucking up to a Republican jackass father of a psychopath...
That sounds like a PERFECT job.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:34 PM
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8. What a perfectly elegant post!
Not one extra word was used to convey your meaning.

Bravo!

TC

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:40 PM
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12. Got it! Only the pure can do charity work!
Ever hear, "keep your enemies closer"?

To complex a thought?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:43 PM
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14. Clinton's global initiative is a neocon front for war with Iran. Don't you GET IT????
It's SERIES!!!!1!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:03 PM
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24. The question is WHY Bushite scum is DOING charity work...
We're talking about the guy who is married to Barbara "Beautiful Mind" Bush. And we're wondering why Bill is so cozy with the family. It's creepy. It's like "Hanging with the Psychos."
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:08 PM
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28. I get it now - Hillary and Bill just hang with and take money from
right wingers so they can infiltrate and find out all their secrets! I feel so much better.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:38 PM
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11. I'll bet there's an English translation to that sentence.
But it's probably not worth the effort to understand it.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:01 PM
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22. Sorry, I forgot my English to Gibberish dictionary...
You'll have to get your own.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:05 PM
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26. Touche!
:applause:

TC


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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:08 AM
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53. Don't worry, dear...you wouldn't get it anyways.
But maybe next time, darling.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:35 PM
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9. Gee let's find out who all the other candidates suck up contributors are
No...because it is stupid to beat a dead horse and that is what the jealous "other" guys supporters campaign is.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:40 PM
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13. For those who want literary prose instead of online articles:
Thanks to antigop for this wonderful find:

The Clintons and the Bushes -- first chapter of Parry's book "Secrecy and Privilege" now online

Link to entire first chapter of the book in this OP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x312026


TC
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:36 PM
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44. Gee, this sounds familiar....we don't want to impeach * jr....because....
But, in 1993, Clinton and the Democratic congressional leadership concluded that.......< pursuit of these “old” scandals would only embitter the Republicans, make the Democratic Party look vindictive and endanger the bipartisanship >.......that Clinton saw as essential for his domestic policy agenda.

Man, it seems we haven't learned a damned thing, have we...still following the same old lines...we don't wanna look like poor sports...we mustn't do anything that would make us look vindictive and endanger the bipartisanship....deja vu..
wb
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 04:08 AM
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45. The Clintons gave it a pass last time around...
Why not a repeat performance?

Though, in all honesty, I'm not sure any of the candidates (even DK) would pursue it at this point. Don't ask me why I feel this way, because I don't really have an answer. Call it a hunch.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 05:21 PM
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49. They gave it a pass
and...let them set Clinton up...The Rep's didn't worry about how they were going to look when they turned around and impeached him...now we are letting them go again...by not pursuing what has been done wrong while * JR is in office...so IF/when she becomes pres....can we expect that all will be swept under the rug again....???? The question is.....where does that leave...WE, the people???? Don't we figure into this somewhere????maybe now is not the proper time to pursue impeachment??? but certainly someone wants some justice, sooner or later, for what's been taking place the last 6 1/2 years(8 years by the time it's over)???? NO???...or will they walk away w/o prosecution??? just so the democratic party can look like swell folks once more??....wb sheesh!!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 02:09 AM
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50. I said it when we won the election...
If we let it slide yet again, they'll come back around and do their damndest to fool the American people once again and we'll have to fight them back again. And they learn awfully well. Next time, they may hold ALL the cards.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 09:47 PM
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51. I'd say...
it's getting damned close to that, right now..holding all the cards is what it's about...we can't seem to do a thing to deter them now, so why haven't we learned yet...are we, as Democrats just too dense or what????..wb
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:45 PM
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16. Bush Tells Hillary to Leave "Wiggle Room" on Iraq... Nice.
Thanks to KoKo01 for this OP:

The Evangelical President has Been Sending Messages to Hillary / Leave "Wiggle Room" on Iraq

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3582373


TC


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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
43. Surely you're too smart to believe that.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 06:59 AM
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47. Its not Hillary's fault if Bush sends her a message. n/t
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:45 PM
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17. pretty shallow stuff for a guy once nominated for a Pulitzer
'course that was seventeen years ago, and after reading this dreck it's pretty easy to understand why the years since have been slim pickins.

So this guy, Azima, was at one of Bill Clinton's Global Initiative fundraisers...

Stop the Presses!


---------------------


guilt by association is sophomoric journalism, Mr. Pizzo.

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:50 PM
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18. Hillary Clinton pays visit to "Palazzo Feinstein"
Thanks to ProudDad for this OP:

Hillary Clinton pays visit to Palazzo Feinstein

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3582327

This OP is complete with pictures of protesters who shouted "No war with with Iran!" as Hillary Clinton visited the "Palazzo Feinstein" this afternoon!

TC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:55 PM
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20. Back and forth on a vote that should define her:
Thanks to MannyGoldstein for this OP:

It's Called ACTUAL LYING, Mrs. Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3577073&mesg_id=3577073

TC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:59 PM
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21. Yes, this is about HRC:
Thanks to redqueen for this OP:

"who only last week backed off her previous suggestions that some torture could be legal"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3579532&mesg_id=3579532

TC
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. Funny how quite it is in here all of a sudden.
Detractors must be reading all the articles your posting no doubt.
In the mean time *chirp, chirp* *crickets*
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. They can dish it out, but
they can't take it.

TC

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. you reading the same threads as the rest of us, jimi?
or do you just make pointless posts for want of nothing better to do?












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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Well to be honest I really dont have anything better to do
but my point was that as soon as a poster started linking articles about Hill inc.
and her associates the opposition died down.
What has this got to do with you Paul?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. the "opposition" hasn't died down -
on any of those threads, that's what it has to do with me.



I responded to this article, and so far no one has cared to rebut. I know TC loves that backslappin' jive, but you gotta earn it first.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:06 PM
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27. I guess you can add my name to that list.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:43 PM
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32. Why are you bashing Obama? Zbigniew Brzezinski is not a neocon
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 05:56 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
"Among the US luminaries making up the Azerbaijan/US Chamber's “Honorary Counsel of Advisers,”
* James Baker III
* Henry Kissenger
* Brent Scowcroft
* John Sununu Sr.
* Zbigniew Brzezinski

Zbigniew Brzezinski is a very good guy, and an Obama foreign affairs advisor... is he part of this axis of corruption too?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:37 PM
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35. You guys are nuts! I copied and postred it EXACTLY as I found it...
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 06:38 PM by Totally Committed
And if I didn't you would say I edited it to look worse for the Clintons. :rofl:

You are all royal pieces of work.

And fwiw, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is WAY too war-hungry for me. I can't help who Obama (or Hillary) has for advisors, I just know I'm into PEACE, not war.

TC


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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:03 AM
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52. Brzezinski is "war-hungry"??
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 03:06 AM by incapsulated
TC, honestly, you don't know what you are talking about.

Read his testimony before the foreign relations committee and tell me how he is "war hungry".

It is time for the White House to come to terms with two central realities:

1. The war in Iraq is a historic, strategic, and moral calamity. Undertaken under false assumptions, it is undermining America's global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America's moral credentials. Driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability.

2. Only a political strategy that is historically relevant rather than reminiscent of colonial tutelage can provide the needed framework for a tolerable resolution of both the war in Iraq and the intensifying regional tensions.

If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large. A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a "defensive" U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.


http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001916.php
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:49 PM
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33. The Shah was a vicious puppet of the USA ... his secret police force made former SS officers blush.
The brutal dictator (monarchy) of The Shah is EXACTLY where the PNAC and AIPACers want Iran to morph into.

We (CIA) replaced a democratically elected leader with this thug (The Shah) in 1953. His rein of terror lasted until 1979. Is it any wonder the Iranians hate our a**? :shrug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. Your refer to him a vicious puppet, I call him a 'bloody bastard'..
And I understand fully well why they have every right to be suspicious of the US government, and by extension us citizens. People like Lynne Cheney, POS LIEberman and others want us to shut up about it, not bring it up...your memory and history are anti-American don't ya know?
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:48 PM
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36. I know these two families are controlling things and trying to hold onto power for just them.
both are sleazy and sneaky. the hillary supporters think we just hate hillary because. They don't understand that Hillary is in with the Bush's and with alot of the nasty stuff that's been going on. That she is just another Bush for real. and they plan to control this country and what happens and keep our government away from the voice of the people.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:51 PM
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37. why do you hate corporate freedom so?
don't you know that you have to get a little bit dirty to get to the top ranks in order to Change Things. All we have to do is wait for Hillary to Change Things. Patience, Ass! When she becomes leader she will kick all those corporates and lobbyists out, (after 100 days, give or take a year or two. or three?) she will change health care to the benefit of american citisens, she will withdraw Iraqi troops, she will revoke the many signings that Bush has scribbled graffiti-like on the constitution. She's all that and more.
:sarcasm:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 07:53 AM
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48. I have no doubt that the Clinton's indiscrminate, disingenious way of smoozing,
is going to create more trouble for us, as a country.

Somewhere along the line, you have to project high ethical standards, and you just can't do that when you take money from opportunists who are expecting favors in kind.
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